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Postby Adz795 » Tue May 24, 2011 5:37 pm

Isn't the plant vacuole hypotonic to the cytoplasm since it stores water during cell elongation? Does osmosis occur? Does the tonoplast have a role in tonicity issues?

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Postby JackBean » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:41 am

it should be isotonic, otherwise there would be flow of water either inside or outside
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Postby Maatomaat » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:00 am

JackBean wrote:it should be isotonic, otherwise there would be flow of water either inside or outside


How can it be isotonic when there is a big difference between vacuole's and cytoplasm's consistency?!
In my point of view it's hypotonic to the cytoplasm but tonoplast that is around of the vacuole ,doesn't allow to the water to enter to the cytoplasm.
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Postby JackBean » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:31 pm

what consistency?
o my knowledge, the vacuole sets the cell's turgor.
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Postby Maatomaat » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:15 pm

JackBean wrote:what consistency?
o my knowledge, the vacuole sets the cell's turgor.

WATER consistency sir.
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Postby Adz795 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:58 am

I don't get the consistency issues. What do you mean?
Is there a difference in the viscosity of vacuolar and cytosolic fluids? How consequence does that have?
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Postby Maatomaat » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:40 am

Adz795 wrote:I don't get the consistency issues. What do you mean?
Is there a difference in the viscosity of vacuolar and cytosolic fluids? How consequence does that have?


If we name water's volum in vacuole-cytoplasm "a"-"b" and total volume of vacuole-cytoplasm "c"-"d";
a/c>b/d ;
So we say water consistency of vacuole is higher than cytoplasm.

As a result we can say the Vacuole is hypotonic to the cell.
but tonoplast usually doesn't allow to the water to enter to the cytoplasm. (vacuole's tonoplast has an attribute named "selective permeability" cause it)
I hope you had got what I mean.
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Re: Plant vacuole

Postby Adz795 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:46 am

Yes, I got what you wanted to say.
What you explained simply meant that the vacuole has more water/volume than the cytoplasm.
Thanks for that. From this I may suspect that the tonoplast is not just any lipid bilayer and that it is is more adept at handling tonicity than the plasma membrane.
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Postby Maatomaat » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:04 am

Adz795 wrote:Yes, I got what you wanted to say.
What you explained simply meant that the vacuole has more water/volume than the cytoplasm.
Thanks for that. From this I may suspect that the tonoplast is not just any lipid bilayer and that it is is more adept at handling tonicity than the plasma membrane.


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it's membrane contains protein.
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