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Use of diuretics

Postby drunkard » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:41 pm

Hi all,

1.
I was thinking last night of an awful situation I had a couple years back where I had drunk far too much alcohol.. then I thought: surely there's a better way of flushing it (without radical medical procedures like stomach pumping) out of the body than just "waiting it out" whilst someone is in such a state..

If Bob is highly intoxicated with alcohol after a good night out (that happened to go a little turbo..), could he consume a diuretic substance in addition to a good quantity of water to catalyse the flushing process? (Kind of a #2 but related to alcohol): Also, would use of a stimulant help reduce some of the alcohol's depressant effects? If both diuresis and CNS stimulation both help, then use of Ephedrine would surely be helpful..

2.
This led me to think: let Alice consume an anti-diuretic substance such as MDMA (methylenedioxymethamphetamine - "Ecstasy" - illicit but indeed consumed). Is there any reason why Alice should not use a diuretic substance to help her urinate? Almost all causes of death resulting from MDMA are related to (hyper|hypo)hydration; regular urination would surely encourage usual levels of drinking/hydration.

Thanks!
~ drunkard
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Postby Darby » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:22 pm

It seems like diuretics would help remove ethanol from the blood - it's being converted in the liver and lost across the respiratory membranes as well, and additional "flushing" would add to that, but how much-? And isn't ethanol itself somewhat diuretic?

Using one drug to counteract the effects of another can be very problematic - depending upon the mechanism of each chemical, you can get unpredictable and sometimes very nasty interactions.
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Re: Use of diuretics

Postby drunkard » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:43 pm

I've personally mixed Ephedrine with alcohol on multiple occassions, Ephedrine is quite the diuretic! However, the diuresis was only ever an unintended side-effect; I've not used it with water for detoxification. As a stimulant, it probably helps reduce the grogginess too, which is probably a bonus if used when the subject is very inebriated. Ethanol itself is diuretic, but not quite to this extent

Quite interested in hearing more on this one.. at worst I'll just test myself by dosing on Ephedrine and drinking lots of water (not to extremes) next time I feel I'm in significant need of a detox/smashed on alcohol.. but I don't think anyone that drunk comes up with ideas like that!
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Postby alexade » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:47 pm

Some doctors, who are not informed about lymphedema, prescribe diuretics to make the swelling go away -- but they are not the answer.

Diuretics affect the kidneys -- not the lymphatic system. They remove fluid from the body and this makes the lymphedema worse. You are right in your understanding about what happens when too much fluid is removed.

You mentioned already having low blood pressure. If you take this medication that lowers blood pressure even more you could find yourself feeling terrible, not having a good time, and still with swollen legs.

How about a chiche long skirt that will cover your legs? Then you can relax and enjoy the wedding
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