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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby JorgeLobo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:33 am

Hot? I'm pointing out the silliness of your selfabsorbed suggestion. If the purpose is to make you feel good - then I suppose it's ok. If you wanted something substantial or significant to be achieved - it's nothing.
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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby mcar » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:47 am

alextemplet wrote: Some good examples of evidence for global warming would be the shrinking snow caps on most mountains and changes in the migration patters of many animals to correspond with warmer weather.

There were even some tropical fishes found to be inhabiting already the Atlantic ocean.
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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby JorgeLobo » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:07 pm

I know you guys are not scientists but try to think like one. Looking for "evidence" presumes the fact and doesn't test the observation. is not what scientists do - they form an hypothesis and test it.

Take mcar's comment for example - the observation of so-called tropical fish in the Atantic. The Atlantic is large and h as both tropical temperature and colder regions. The so-called tropical fish may always or even periodically been in areas unexpected - and no temp data were offered.
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Postby alextemplet » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:15 am

Jorgelobo, you are missing the point. We were asked to present evidence that global warming is a real phenomenon; this we did.
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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby JorgeLobo » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:30 am

You are missing the point. That is not evidence - it's coincidence. do try to learn something about science.
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Postby alextemplet » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:41 am

Since you're the expert on all things scientific, why don't you go ahead and explain why shrinking snow caps are merely coincidental with - and not evidence for - rising temperature.
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Postby JorgeLobo » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:31 pm

I understand your ignorance of science alex but I'll try to explain. The burden of defense falls upon those making the claim - offering the theory. Understand? The fact that you know nothing about the phenomena does not excuse you.
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Postby alextemplet » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:01 am

I love how you neatly dodged the question by pretending to be the only person in the know about scientific thinking.
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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby AstusAleator » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:11 pm

Well when we find a few more Earths' that we can use as controls and alternative variable tests we can take an undeniably scientific approach to test climate change - it might take a few millenia but what the heck. We might even get some conclusive data on evolution while we're at it. </sarcasm>
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Re: Anthropogenic global warming?

Postby JorgeLobo » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:34 pm

poor alex - do try to understand. The question you asked had nothing to do with science. It's not up to me to find an other explanation. Its up to YOU as YOU are making the claim to prove or validate. Understand? Science is not a matter of "gee - it must be true, i can't think of anything else."

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Postby AstusAleator » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:14 am

Here's some interesting reading.
http://www.ipcc.ch/
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Postby alextemplet » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:44 am

Jorgelobo, did it ever occur to you to treat other people with respect instead of condescension? Or do you only come on this forum to feel better about yourself by trash-talking others?
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