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Postby MichaelXY » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:45 pm

Well, good luck to you and there is light at the end of the tunnel :)

If your seeing a General practice Dr, he/she should send you to a gynocologist unless it is something obvious. So keep that in mind.

Let us know the outcome...

One more thing and be advised. For my wife, diagnosis was a slow process, many visits to the doctors. Thats HMO's for ya...

I am lucky, I can go to the Vetrans hospital here in San Diego. One of the best hospitals in the country.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby TracyWilbourne » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:10 pm

Hello,

I stopped smoking 3 months ago and and although I never want to smoke ever again, Im seriously considering it. The reason being I feel terrible! Everyday my stomach is bloated and even when I empty myself nothing changes. I have had a colonic and take probiotics regularly. I drink loads of water and eat plenty of vegetables. I dont eat dairy as I think this makes it worse. I dont know what else to do and Im feeling very fat and miserable!
Has anyone else had this problem and any help would be very much appreciated. :(
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Postby missuk » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:08 pm

I have read all the posts and felt like crying because i thought i was alone in this. For the past 5 years i have had constant bloating, hair loss, fatigue. All symptoms of thyroid but yet the tests always come back normal. I've tried everything from candida diets, homeopathy, accupuncture, reflexology. the list goes on. I've spent £4000 (aprox $8000) on different practitioners with no results. The doctors in the uk dont have any answers, they dont believe my symptoms and always fob me off with the diagnosis IBS because they dont know what it is. They humour me by testing for thyroid. I've paid for major bacteria testing and results were clear. someone suggested hormonal in a previous post? Maybe going on the contaceptive pill would help.
There has to be an answer out there, didnt realise there was so many people with the same problem with me, the doctor asked me if i was stressed and depressed...i told her the only thing that depressed me is having this problem!
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Postby Adamx » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:34 am

1) I am curious to know if anyone who has been clinically diagnosed with IBS-(C or D) been 'cured' of their symptoms.

2)For those with bloating/distention, if you use an abdominal garment (those that are to be used after lipo for example), does it help with your symptoms?I am curious if the weakness of the abdominal muscles compound to this bloating issue.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby Momofthree » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:00 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have had this for about 5 months now. The excessive bloating in which you think your stomach will rip apart at the seams. I have read all the other posts and even though I am glad I am not alone it seems as if there is no clear cut answer as well.
A little brief history here. I had been having pelvic pain for 7 months. Then extreme pelvic pain which sent me to Emergency and long story short an ovarian cyst that had burst. The Dr. put me on birth control pills to stop me ovulating so I wouldn't get the cysts anymore. However the pelvic pain did not go away and on top of that I was getting headaches and dizziness. Also the excessive bloating started and not being able to eat more than a few bites of food. As well as nausea. The Dr.'s were stumped. Too many problems all going on at once. Plus some outside stresses. My Mom was diagnosed with Cancer around the later part of my symptoms.
My Dr. put me in the hospital so we could speed up the process and find what was wrong. At this point I could hardly function. I had numerous tests done in the hospital. I had a laparoscopy done and they found scar tissue on my ovary and uterineal ligament. They took that out. I left the hospital shortly after that. The pelvic pain is now gone. Hurray. They put me on Prevacid a stomach acid reducer and I could finally take more than a couple bites of food. I could actually eat regular meals. But the excessive bloating still continues and now I am gaining alot of weight in a short period of time and not really eating too much in a day. Just a regular amount of food.

I also feel like I am 5 months pregnant. I have 3 kids to look after and I eat very little during the day so I don't suffer the bloating as much. I need to look after them. After I eat supper it gets worse and I can't usually sleep because my stomach is so bloated it makes it awkward. I have pain sometimes on my left lower side as others have mentioned. Usually when I am extremely bloated it happens more or becomes more chronic. This bloating is everyday all the time. I wake up bloated and it just gets worse throughout the day. I find the headaches come when I haven't eaten and that triggers the dizziness so I have to at least eat small snacks throughout the day. It doesn't matter what food I eat I always bloat. Even with drinking water.

So as we have narrowed down some symptoms and their causes I can plainly see that I have some sort of digestive problem. The Dr. thinks it is Celiac's. Which I have seen posted here. But I eat mostly wheat products and leaving them out of my diet does not make me feel any better and eating them doesn't make me feel worse. Everything makes me feel worse.

I have a Gastroscope scheduled for Wed. and they will take a biopsy to check for celiac's which I should get the results in about 2 weeks after its done. Then I have a colonoscopy scheduled for the end of Nov. Other than that they have run every other test there is with no luck to find the problem. I do have polys on my gall bladder that the Gastro Dr. will evaluate. I will ask her about the slow gastric emptying thing that someone mentioned earlier. Taking Prevacid certainly wouldn't help if I had that problem.

I WILL write back on Wed. and let you know if they found anything or not on the Gastroscope. I just want this to be over. The chronic uncomforableness of this bloating is wrecking havoc on my life and does get very discouraging. My Dr. also told me if we don't find anything wrong after all these tests then he will chaulk it up to IBS. Can you believe that. I don't just want an answer. I want the right answer.
Hang in there everyone. And please write if you have had some results. Knowledge can only make us stronger.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby Jennuan » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:18 am

I posted a month ago, on 9/28. Since the post, my daughter has been seen by an allergist at the Children's Hospital. Allergies came back positive for milk, soy, rice, rye, peanuts, bananas, carrots, melons, potatoes, cucumber, corn, chicken, pork, and all by-products..meaning she can't have soy lecithin (found in nearly everything), nor dairy, nor corn syrup, etc. The positive result for the milk made me doubt the test because just a few months ago, she had a breath test (hydrogen test where they test your exhaled air that you blow in a bag) and the test came out negative for being lactose intolerant, but the doc said that it was the most prominent allergy of the group...which explains why she had reflux and couldn't handle breast milk or formula as an infant. I switched her to soy when she was 4 months old, and she didn't tolerate that either...which I now know why...she's also allergic to soy. I'm determined, though, to find the root of her allergies. It's basically a food intolerance, not full blown allergy, because she doesn't break out in hives; she just gets extremely bloated, constipated, and has severe stomach distention. But, she's like that all day, it just gets worse as the day progresses. I've been researching like crazy and think that her allergies might be caused by a poor digetive tract. She may have 'leaky gut' syndrome; this is where the intestinal lining is porous and undigested foods leak out of the intestine and into the blood stream...not good and can cause your body to react with distention, pain, etc. I'm going to have her checked for 'leaky gut' and also for low HCl and pepsin levels..HCl (hydrochloric acid) and pepsin are responsible for breaking down protein, etc and because she may have low levels, it may be causing her bloating as well. I'm so frustrated with the doctors, though. How come I'm the one doing all the research? Oh, speaking of which, when I was researching, I came across a website that talked about the benefits of sprouts on our digestive system. I'm seriously thinking of getting an automatic sprouter and some organic seeds (brocolli, alfalfa, and others along with wheatgrass) and then growing the sprouts myself and blending them with orange juice for her. In the one week we've known about her allergies, we've kept her on foods that she was not allergic to. In addition, I'm having her take an acidophilus pill, a super-digestive enzyme pill, and a papaya enzyme pill daily. She weighed 72 lbs two weeks ago and now weighs 70 lbs (she turned 7 in July and been at the 95th percentile with regards to her weight since she was born) I'll track the weight loss and let you know how it goes. She mentioned that the pain in her stomach went away. She hasn't had pain now in three days.
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Postby Jennuan » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:42 am

Momofthree, I looked into the differences and similarities between 'leaky guy',celiac disease, and IBS, and found an online article somewhat helpful that I've attached in this post. Also, I'm interested to see how things go for you. I'll check back on Wednesday to read your update. Copy and paste this link, http://thefooddoc.blogspot.com/2007/01/ ... en-in.html, into your web browser. In summary, it states that 'leaky gut' can occur from gluten even in absence of celiac disease. Check your Zonulin levels, because these levels are increased in celiac disease. Also, excessive and long term gluten exposure also affects zonulin in non-celiac intestine. The result is an increased gut permeability (or leaky gut). Hope all goes well for you.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby MichaelXY » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:20 pm

The positive result for the milk made me doubt the test because just a few months ago, she had a breath test (hydrogen test where they test your exhaled air that you blow in a bag) and the test came out negative for being lactose intolerant,


The negative result only means your daughter produces the lactase enzyme, thus not lactose intolerant, this is not the same thing as having an allergy to milk, so I would suggest you do not second guess the hospitals results.

I'm having her take an acidophilus pill, a super-digestive enzyme pill, and a papaya enzyme pill daily.

It just amazes me when mothers play doctor with their offspring, as if the internet gives you a medical degree. Why oh why would you need to supplement enzymes that the body produces normally? Enzyme deficiency is rather uncommon, and if there was a lacking enzyme it could be easily tested for by medical professionals. SImple lab test can determine if enzymes are present such as amylase and lipase.
Supplemental enzymes when eaten, are digested just like other proteins and will do nothing , other than support the makers of these magic pills.

I'm going to have her checked for 'leaky gut'


By an alternative med practioner no doubt as the medical community does not support this condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_gut_syndrome

Do your daughter a favor and seek true medical doctors that actually went to med school.
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Postby Jennuan » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:21 am

MichaelXY, I appreciate your feedback, but I think you need to check your facts. In the above email, you criticized me for trying to take matters into my own hands and for relying on the internet to supply me with information and then inferred that 'leaky gut' is an alternative medicine and not recognized by real doctors. I found it ironic that you tried to back up this last comment by referring to none other than.. an internet link! Using your link above that you sent, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/leaky_gut_syndrome, I checked the references of the story only to receive confirmation that I may be onto something. Scroll down to the bottom of the story and click on the 5th reference, called, 'leaky gut syndrome'. This is what it says:

"Leaky gut syndrome develops at times because of the formation of a lesion along the lining of the intestinal walls and this may make the wall very permeable than it normally is to the substances contained within it- in other words it is leaky and hence the name of the disorder, leaky gut syndrome. The spaces between the cells of the gut wall are enlarged to a very great extent and this enlargement allows the entrance of many types of organism such as bacteria, all sorts of pathogenic fungi, all kinds of intestinal parasites, many toxins and undigested protein, fat and waste material into the bloodstream-this will spread the inflammation further out into the body. Normally these substances are disposed off or eliminated in the stools but because of the damaged and now hyper-permeable and very leaky gut they pass easily into the blood and spread about the body.

The presence of many toxic chemicals and swelling because of the resulting inflammation leads to the blockage of many important nutrients into the body and also blocks the absorption of many more important nutrients like the vitamins, most of the essential minerals and many of the essential amino acids. The immune system produces a lot of antibodies to fight of the many large molecules which now pass through the intestinal walls and which are correctly seen as foreign antigens or substances by the immune system. A food allergy can be the result of this immune reaction as the immune system tries to ward off the foreign bodies within the body. An inflammatory reactions is thus triggered when any of these foods is eaten, the antibodies from the immune system get into many different tissues and trigger an inflammatory reaction within the body.

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Since the inflammation in the intestinal walls damages many of the carrier proteins found in the gastrointestinal tract, which are necessary for the transport of all sorts of minerals from the intestine into the blood-all kinds of mineral deficiencies begin to affect an individual suffering from the disorder. These conditions include as an example, a deficiency in the magnesium content similar to the symptoms occurring in a condition such as fibromyalgia, this deficiency can develop in a person suffering from a leaky gut syndrome even if a high magnesium intake is maintained through the diet and through the use of mineral supplements on a regular basis. An obvious magnesium deficiency can develop as a result of malabsorption where the symptoms of a leaky gut syndrome leads to damage in the carrier proteins used in the transport of magnesium through the intestinal walls. Spasms and extreme muscle pain often result because of this condition. In addition deficiencies in an important mineral like zinc result in a high blood cholesterol level, which may affect the person adversely. The improper absorption of essential minerals such as calcium, a trace mineral like boron, a mineral like silicon and manganese can lead to many kinds of bone disorders in the person.

The use of supplemental antioxidants can help fight the destruction of tissues brought on by the inflammation which affects all the tissues. Most of the various antioxidant supplements which are effective against the inflammation include all the natural carotenoids, essential nutrients such as the vitamin A, a chemical compound like rutin, the citrus based hesperidins, the compound quercetin, the class of compounds called catechin, seed extracts of the grape, the compound pycnogenol and the bilberry herb. The other essential antioxidants that can be used during treatment also include the vitamins C and E and many of the various sulfur-containing amino acids including cysteine, the form called N-acetyl-cysteine, the amino acid methionine and the reduced L-glutathione compound. Asthma and other allergic reactions triggered by the inflammation can be dealt with supplements of the essential vitamin, the vitamin C, which also protects the blood vessels from damaged sustained from the inflammation.

Leaky gut syndrome is also immensely alleviated by the supplementary use of many types of plant enzymes such as those found in abundant quantities in green food supplements like spirulina, the chlorella plant, in the barley greens, in the green kamut, in substances like bee pollen and in the royal jelly-all of these will prove to be effective and potent additives to the remedial measures taken against the symptoms of leaky gut syndrome.

A lowering in the production of the digestive hydrochloric acid in the stomach accompanies most types of autoimmune disorders and this is also evident during leaky gut syndrome. A lowering of the acid levels in the stomach during the condition results in the condition known as pernicious anemia and this resulting imbalance can only be rectified by regular injections of the vitamin B12 along with the folic acid. Hereditary factors may play a role in lowering the stomach acid levels, and this lowering of the stomach acid levels can also be brought about by the long term use of many over the counter prescription medications such as all kinds of antacids and anti-ulcer medications. The acid levels in the stomach can also be lowered as a result of persistent infection in the gut or due to factors such as food allergies, particularly to foods that are sourced from a dairy and this same allergies can arise from many wheat products. A variety of supplements can be tried in an attempt to correct a lowered stomach acid level that is known to exist purely because of hereditary reasons in the affected individual. Some of these supplements for use in this regard include the amino acid-glutamic acid, the chemical hydrochloride, the compound betaine hydrochloride, the digestive enzyme pepsin, some apple cider vinegar, some lemon juice, stomach bitters, nutrients like the vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid) and the vitamin C, the organic compound PABA (paraminobenzoic acid) and the vitamin B6, pyridoxine hydrochloride-all of these will prove to be of great supplementary benefit to the affected individual.

The carrier protein that transports magnesium is damaged during disorders like the leaky gut syndrome, this is despite of the very high intake of the essential mineral magnesium through the diet and via regular supplementation-this can result in serious deficiencies of the mineral within the body of the affected individual. Impaired absorption of the mineral magnesium results in a the development of a magnesium deficiency within the body. As a long term result of this deficiency, spasms and muscle pain begin to affect the person and cause a great deal of discomfort besides other symptoms. The deficiency of another essential mineral namely zinc also occurs in a similar manner due to an improper absorption of the mineral form the diet, this results in symptoms such as rapid hair loss or baldness that resembles the type of symptoms which occurs in another condition called alopecia areata. Similarly, identical impaired absorption of the mineral copper can lead to very high blood-cholesterol levels and this can easily complicate things for the individual. Bone problems can also occur as the impaired absorption of important minerals like calcium, boron, silicon and manganese are also evident-all these minerals are important for healthy bones.

The impaired absorption of many vital vitamins and essential amino acids can result due to the inflammation and swelling -edema present in the body of the affected individual along with the presence of many types of noxious chemicals-these create blockages in the transport of vital nutrients into the body and absorptive systems in the body go out of control leading to deficiencies in many vital nutrients. The proper absorption of nutrients is often the first casualty of a leaky gut syndrome. Physical symptoms like abdominal bloating, the production of excess gas and painful muscular cramps begins immediately as a result of these multiple mineral deficiencies. On a gradual manner the person begins to suffer from different systemic complaints such as persistent physical fatigue, the presence of constant headaches, the loss of memory, a very poor ability to concentrate and constant emotional irritability.

The anti-inflammatory compounds such as prednisone, prednisolone, dexamethasone and betamethasone are commonly used and prescribed corticosteroid medications that function in blocking the pro-inflammatory chemical mediators in the body including the compounds such as histamine, some of the prostaglandins and the compounds called leukotrienes. Scientists believe that these compounds are responsible for the pain, the swelling, the redness and the eventual scarring reactions that induce fibrosis like actions within the human body. All of these pro-inflammatory compounds within the body are involved in some way in the autoimmune diseases such as the disorder called lupus, the condition called idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura or ITP for short, in rheumatoid arthritis, in Crohn's disease, in the condition known as ulcerative colitis, in multiple sclerosis, in thyroiditis and in vasculitis, therefore the compound called prednisone is used to reduce the impact of the serious effects these pro-inflammatory compound have on the body. These chemical mediators are also involved in the development of allergic conditions such as asthma, during condition like psoriasis and in eczema. These conditions are also often dealt through the corticosteroid pills or topical creams as well and these are normally prescribed to individuals affected by these conditions.

The price paid for the reduction of the inflammation using compounds like prednisone and other steroid medications is huge even though they are very effective in bringing about a reduction in the inflammation affecting the individual. The main adverse affect is that these medications cripple the immune system when they are used over a very long period of time. Unwanted weight gain, the retention of fluid, a tremendous increase in appetite, a heightened risk of infection setting in, problems like depression, elevation of blood pressure or high blood pressure, disorders such as diabetes, the formation of ulcers, the development of acne, fatigue and weak muscles, problems like osteoporosis, persistent insomnia and an increased risk of blood clot formation are all unwanted side effects of long term use of these compounds. The use of different types of antioxidants, the hydrochloric acid, many kinds of enzymes and herbal supplements is the only alternative to the continued use of prednisone and other corticosteroids.

Tissue damage is often the long term result of the inflammatory response which creates a lot of oxidative damage to the tissues, the careful use of all types of antioxidants will help prevent tissue damage-which can lead to permanent dysfunction in the vital tissues if occurring over a long period of time. Various vitamins such as the natural carotenoids – the class of compounds known as carotenes, lycopenes etc, the vitamin A, the plant based natural compounds called bioflavonoids such as rutin, citrus based hesperidins, the compound quercetin, catechin and the proanthocyanidins (grape seed extract, the pine bark extract, the bilberry herb and others grouped into the term pycnogenols, the vitamins C and E, and all the sulfur containing amino acids such as cysteine, the N-acetyl-cysteine form of cysteine, the amino acid methionine and the reduced L-glutathione are all excellent and effective antioxidants for use as an alternative to the corticosteroids. The coenzyme Q10, all the B complex vitamins, particularly the folic acid and the vitamin B12, along with the essential mineral selenium, the essential mineral zinc and the hormones like DHEA and melatonin can also play effective roles as antioxidants-all of them can be used in supplementary form to prevent tissue damage caused by oxidative reactions. Super foods like the green plant supplements such as spirulina, chlorella, the barley green and the kamut are excellent in phytochemicals and contain important plant enzymes, used along with bee pollen and royal jelly and with various herbs they will prove to be very potent antioxidants and are great in supplementary support of the affected individual.

Many enzymes such as the enzyme pancreatin which is an animal derived pancreatic digestive enzymes, many plant enzymes such as bromelain derived from pineapples aid the digestion of proteins in the gastrointestinal tract. These enzymes have also shown an ability as anti-inflammatory chemical mediators similar in action to some of the prostaglandins and leukotrienes found naturally in the human body-these enzymes can be used as effective supplements to alleviate the condition in the affected individuals.

Deficient production of the hydrochloric acid in the stomach is the usual symptom associated with most types of autoimmune disorders in the human body. A lot of nutrient deficiencies can result due to the two forms of deficient stomach acid, these are achlorhydria-or no acid production and hypochlohydria or a low acid production, the presence of one of these conditions is enough to induce many types of nutrient deficiency in the affected individual. As most high protein foods require the presence of sufficient acid for their digestion-the presence of one of these conditions in the body will create numerous problems for the person. Poor absorption of vital amino acids, essential vitamins and minerals result when the acid levels are absent or very low in the stomach. The deficiency of the vitamin B12 is the most usually and easily recognized nutrient deficiency brought on by low or little stomach acid production. Problems such as pernicious anemia is often the first result of such a absorption rate and this situation can often only be rectified by the regular supplementation of vitamin B12 through injections."

Did you get the part on digestive enzymes and HCl levels? And did you get the part about Prednisone and other prescriptive drugs that are commonly presribed?

I'm all for utilizing our medical professionals first. However, we trusted our pediatrician for 3 years who said she might have a wheat allergy and to switch to rice products as an alternative. Well, it came back, years later, that it is RICE that she's allergic to. (BTW, this is the same pediatrician who told me there was absolutely no link between the MMR vaccination and Autism. The verdict is still out,) but the point is, physicians are tainted by the money they make from their insurance providers. Some medical groups actually get bonused for not prescribing treatments or taking the initiative to diagnose illnesses. The place we go now is CHOC. The Children's Hospital of Orange County is a reputable hospital, so one would think they have reputable doctors. My pediatrician was not from CHOC. Nonetheless, my concern is that chronic conditions that have generic symptoms often go unnoticed and either undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. Noone knows their kids better than their parents, and I know something is wrong. The trouble is that there is a lack of urgency from medical professionals.

On another note, I spoke with a client today who said she owns a holistic medicine/supplement franchise and that she and one of her children had bad food allergies/intolerances until she avoided the foods and started to introduce other foods. She also mentioned that she was not breast fed, nor did she breast feed her daughter because of the lack of milk that came in and went straight to formulas and quickly to cow's milk and Stage1 food. She said that my daughter may have a weak intestinal tract and digestive system because it was compromised at an early age (I had done the same thing...milk didn't come, so I went to formula.) She said the excess food permeates from the intestine into the blood system, and that's where symptoms like bloating, distention, GERD, etc may have started. Look, I don't pretend to know the answers...I'm just desperately trying to find them. I don't get follow up calls from the docs, either. By blogging on forums like this, I'm trying to relay my story. I've read everyone else's entry. Am I saying doctor's aren't worthy of respecting, not entirely...Am I saying that I have all the answers and should play doctor instead, no. But sometimes doing nothing at all and taking the doctors generic guesses at something just doesn't suffice. I will, however, talk to a dietician about the supplements and make sure they are okay to give to my daughter with the conditions she has.
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Postby Momofthree » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:42 pm

Jennuan- thanks for the info on leaky gut and such. I will file it away in my brain with all the other questions I have and hopefully talk to the specialists about it. I am sorry to hear about your daughter. It is very frustrating as a parent to watch your child be sick and to wait for the medical system get around to you. And no the Dr.'s don't always have the right answers. They are human too. I feel if we can trigger some idea in them that maybe they are not thinking about then what is wrong with that. For us we are dealing with symptoms that don't seem to have an easy answer. It would be nice if they could do a blood test and say Oh, you have this, and here is a pill to fix it. But for us it won't be that easy or hasn't been so far.

I had the gastroscopy yesterday. They found that my stomach and small intestine were normal. (Sigh) The DR. took several biopsy's though and will send them away and in 2 or 3 weeks I should know whether I have Celiac's or whatever else they are testing for. I am glad I don't have anything wrong but sad that I have something wrong somewhere and this just makes the process longer. I have my colonosopy at the end of Nov. So within 2 weeks after my gastro results I should have the colonoscopy results as well. If neither test comes up with anything then I think I am in trouble. I think the Dr.'s and I will have to start over again. I wish for it all to go away.
I will hang in there and try to stay as positive as I can.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby MichaelXY » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:21 am

MichaelXY, I appreciate your feedback, but I think you need to check your facts. In the above email, you criticized me for trying to take matters into my own hands and for relying on the internet to supply me with information and then inferred that 'leaky gut' is an alternative medicine and not recognized by real doctors. I found it ironic that you tried to back up this last comment by referring to none other than.. an internet link! Using your link above that you sent, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/leaky_gut_syndrome, I checked the references of the story only to receive confirmation that I may be onto something. Scroll down to the bottom of the story and click on the 5th reference, called, 'leaky gut syndrome'. This is what it says:


Exactly what facts should I check?

The wiki article simply cited its reference to what leaky guts is purported to be. This is in no way a validation that leaky gut is a legitimate illness recognized by the medical community.

Consider the source you cited, a Herbal supplement supplier. I have no doubt such a website would make claims that their magic pills will cure all your ailments, big surprise here.
Since food suppliments like those advertised on your cited source are under no regulation, they can print all sorts of claims.

On another note, I spoke with a client today who said she owns a holistic medicine/supplement franchise


Big shock here :shock: Hmm, snake oil salesman have not dissappeared, only changed their title.

If someone was suffering from malabsorption (Or this leaky gut thing) they would have all sorts of problems. Vomiting, weight loss (Not gain, don't confuse with bloating), diarrhea, loss of muscle tone, problems with nervous system. In general they would become very ill.

Your cited website leaves one to believe that they can cure a life threatning illness with a simple supplement.

Consider this, if your body is unable to digest minerals, fats, carbs, and protein, then how on earth would the body be able to utilize something ingested in the form of a pill?



You are literally pooping money down the toilet.
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Re: Stomach bloating and weight gain

Postby Jennuan » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:14 am

MichaelXY, I appreciate your concern and advice for me to see a physician, but really, you may be giving them way too much credit. You can say similar things about physicians that you can with a Holistic doc...They prescribe medicine/treatment based on their own guidelines within their own realm of medicine. The difference is that physicians are licensed "practicing" physicians. Note the emphasis on 'practicing.' One could argue that you can sue them if things go terribly wrong, but look at how much paperwork patients have to sign before being seen...much of which is about litigation and responsibility. Doctors and hospitals don't want the responsibility..That's why they make you agree to go to mediation or arbitration instead of being able to try them by jury. You don't sign the paperwork, you don't get seen..paperwork is incomplete. I've done it and have been forced to waive my rights to sue should something go wrong. Then, you look at how much the pharmaceutical companies are tied in with hospitals and clinics. More often than not, there are serious complications linked to manmade drugs than with natural remedies. Our bodies are not well equipped to handle harsh chemicals of any kind. So why is is that doctors can't prescribe herbal medicine? Because they get big bucks from pharmaceutical companies? highly likely. Because herbal medicine has not been approved by the FDA? maybe, and why is this? Because herbal manufacturing companies don't make specific claims - they make general claims like, "improves cardiovascular health" vs "decreases risk of heart attack." Synthetic pharmaceuticals have only been used recently. Our culture is pharma dominant. But 300,000 people die each year from the "proper" use of medicines. No one dies from herbs. They are much safer. And much cheaper. So why doesn't everyone use herbs? On a global level, most people do - there are 5 billion people out there using medicines from plants. We're the weirdos that think mass producing harsh chemicals actually heals people better and faster than herbs. Why don't we use more herbs here in the U.S. when many pharmaceutical drugs were originally made from plants? Because in the U.S. herbs must be sold as supplements. It's all money driven. Pharmaceutical companies can mass produce chemicals a lot faster than creating supplement pills from natural resources. Anyhow, I appreciate your concern, but I've read now most of your posts and have started to think maybe you're related to the medical industry somehow...I don't know what to say other than I'm in desperate need of answers. I'll continue to have my daughter undergo diagnostic testing at the hospital, but I'm becoming more convinced that I'll seek out treatment - naturally.
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