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Postby 2810712 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:55 am

OK killing may be bad, but what about the activities of cosmetic researchers for testing
their cosmetics on monkeys and making their live extremely painful some times,
Can we stop this??? Or stop using cosmetics- cosmetics are not basic-life-requirements so please......

What do U think???

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Postby Chris4 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:40 pm

i dont think there are any cosmetics tested on animals in the UK anymore. ??
Of course its wrong.
Animal testing should only be done for research into diseases which kill a lot of people. cancer, aids etc.
To stop it we can only buy products which say not tested on animals on them. I do that

Try telling girls to stop using cosmetics . :D I would not like to see girls stop using them :wink:

PS there are hundreds of things which are not basic life requirements, but damage the environment/animals. Cars, electricity etc etc. In todays society they are necessary. For us to look good, get a decent job, girl friend/boyfriend etc we need cosmetics.
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:25 pm

Of course animal testing is wrong. Many environment nerds are out on the streets protesting against this every day. teh European Union says that no member countru can practise animal testing. All member countries need to give it up.(i've heard of this, but am not 100% sure so don't kill me if this is not true)
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Postby Poison » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:30 pm

Don't blame on girls/women. Think that the soap you use to wash your hands or face is also a cosmetic. Haven't you ever used one? :lol:
The other point is that, we need to test some drugs or such kind of things. So should we use human instead of mice and kill people just for testing? If yes, what about 'ethics'?
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Postby mith » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:55 pm

Well, it's not like you can give consent forms for guinea pigs to sign.
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Postby 2810712 » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:58 am

we need to test , but what chris says is right - we should test only for those who
save many lives.
But, still we are using many non-basically required things . We cann;t stop using all of
of them. So, we should make a priority list, isn't it.
Its difficult to prepare global priority list, but its not immpossible.
Cosmetic testing is many a times very painful but it kills less no organisms, than the organisms killed due to other such unrequired things- I think.
so we need to decide what is really bad .

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Postby MrMistery » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:59 pm

If some people can make products that are not tested on animals then it means that everyone can do it. It is probably cheaper to test them on animals.
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Postby Poison » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:35 pm

Chris4 thinks that only girls/women use cosmetics. Thats why I said that. And gave that example about soap.
Anyway, I'm not feminist, Andrew. :lol:
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Postby Chris4 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:30 am

Poison wrote:Chris4 thinks that only girls/women use cosmetics. Thats why I said that. And gave that example about soap.
Anyway, I'm not feminist, Andrew. :lol:


I didnt really imply that. (or at least i didnt want to). I was just saying they use them the most. Which is fact. Of course men use cosmetics aswell. Anyway, thats not the discussion here :)
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Postby Poison » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:10 pm

OK Chris4 I think I got it wrong. Thanx for correcting. :)
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Postby 2810712 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:44 pm

See, we are not reducing cosmetic use only because we don't want to stop.
So, we're making others pain for our pleasure, its bad, isn't it???


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Postby Poison » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:50 pm

We are making everything for OUR comfort. This may be another point of view.
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