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Postby MrMistery » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:01 pm

Marijuana is natural :D
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Postby Poison » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:43 pm

haha I liked that example MrMistery. :D
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Postby biostudent84 » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:01 am

MrMistery wrote:Marijuana is natural :D


It's from the earth man! *makes peace-sign*

I'm not sure the root beer arugment would be accurate. There's a difference between "all natural" and coming from "natural products."

Root beer's original recipie, as well as the current one requires for refinement and combination of many ingredients.

Oil is all natural. Gasoline is a derivative of natural products.
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Postby James » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:26 pm

There are no standards for what `natural' means, merely adding one natural product can lead to the company advertising it as 'natural'. Theres loads of known, potentially dangerous chemicals littered in these products.
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Postby 2810712 » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:51 pm

Yes, such natural thins are to be avoided, but we are biologists, we can know the test the truth of naturalness, that should be TESTED. So, atlast testing is essential, but the natural cosmetics in INDIA don't have any mention of naturalness inorder to advertise, but those which are not that natural have the mention of it. :lol:

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Postby MrMistery » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:20 pm

I agree... testing of certain things is vital(i don't mean cosmetics here). A lot of natural poisons come from nature
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Postby Jesskat14 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:33 pm

There are places that don't use products tested on animals. Lush and the Body Shop both don't use products tested on animals and Body Shop is funding ways of testing without animals involved at all.
There are other developments such as computer programs that can simulate how the product will affect humans, but these are expensive and the simulations aren't always accurate.
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Postby MrMistery » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:44 pm

Since it's people who make them, they should be people-tested :D
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Postby Bleh » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:21 pm

i know this sounds stupid, but you have to listen to under stand the problem with the stoping of cosmetic related testing.
With our current law system it is EXTREAMLY easy to sue anyone, which is the problem, so to save companys from going bankrupt they have to animal test, so if you want to get rid of this problem you need to exchange the law subjecting the matter accordingly.
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Postby biostudent84 » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:04 pm

We're arguing ethics, not law, Bleh.
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Postby Bleh » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:58 am

no what you dont seem to get is for you to set the ethics right (i.e no more testing cosmetics on animals,) you have to change the law, its not just a matter of saying its wrong...
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Postby ERS » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:21 am

at some level ethics are laws, moral laws that guide your gut for living
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