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Postby alextemplet » Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:42 am

Well then, please, share with us these amazing secrets! :lol:
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Postby Linn » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:37 am

alextemplet wrote:I'm an avid amateur astronomer, and I do believe life has to exist elsewhere in the universe. The universe is simply too big to pretend that we're all alone. However, I do not believe in UFOs as I have never seen any conclusive evidence that aliens are visiting us. Perhaps you know something that I don't, Linn? Care to share?


sorry can not share that info with you cause the men in black will kill me :cry:
but how can you believe that we are not alone but not UFO's? Just keep looking especialy if you live in Washington State
But bring your VCR. lol
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Postby lordmagnus » Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:50 pm

I believe there is evidence that the split from a common ancestor occured around the same time that the pole shifts occured (north and south pole switched places) this leads to a nullification in the earth protective barrier, that prevents highly charged particles from reaching the earths surface in large concentrations. During the shift, there are areas where multiple north and south poles existed all around the planet, exposing those areas to high levels of particles from solar flares that are drawn down to those pole points. The rate of genetic damage and subsequent mutation would be much higher in those areas, this may explain the reason that the missing link has yet to be found. It could also be that the little grey aliens altered our common ancestors DNA, to accelerate evolution. Also with such a small differance between HUMANS and CHIMPS, you could concivably breed the two together to create monkey people, if that didn't directly work, you could use common IVF/IUI techniques to purify the sperm of problematic materials before using it to fertilize eggs.
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Postby Springer » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:28 am

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Also with such a small differance between HUMANS and CHIMPS, you could concivably breed the two together to create monkey people, if that didn't directly work, you could use common IVF/IUI techniques to purify the sperm of problematic materials before using it to fertilize eggs.


Monkey people? You're kidding, right?
There are on the order of 40,000,000 base pair differences between humans and chimps.
Are you one of thoses who claims evolution to be "science"?
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Postby lordmagnus » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:36 am

Well if you can get goats and sheep to crossbreed, then why not humans and chimps? There are many more chromosomal differances between goats and sheep, than humans and chimps.
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:58 am

Unfortunately I live out in the swamps of Louisiana, and I don't believe in UFOs because I've never seen any credible evidence that they exist. If you can provide credible evidence, I might be willing to question that belief, but if not, I will persist in believing in other life, but not UFOs.

Dogs and wolves are 2% different, genetically. They can cross-breed. Humans and chimps are 0.7% different. I'm not saying cross-breeding humans and chimps is a good idea - actually it's pretty creepy - but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible.
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Species interbreeding

Postby lordmagnus » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:30 am

Here is a web page, that give a good breakdown of the interbreeding among major species that we know of,

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1528852

Maybe the KOREANS will pull it off, they do just about everything revolutionary in science now.
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Postby AstusAleator » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:02 am

chromosome count alone can account for dog/wolf interbreeding.

As for the reversing of earths polarity, the geologic record indicates that this has happened hundreds if not thousands (maybe millions?) of times over the history of the earth. You seemed to be addressing it as an isolated event, so I thought I'd point that out.

Also, little grey men? Please. Ok I won't deny it's possible, but there have to be more productive directions to focus your inquiry in.

About the radiation effects of these depolarizing or reversal events, there may be something to that, and it bears further studying, but from the stuff you're spouting off, it doesn't seem like there is really a lot known about this, and it's all highly hypothetical. Perhaps in our lifetimes we'll witness a reversal, and we'll get to see first-hand what happens. (I feel sorry for anyone flying a plane when it happens)
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Postby ajohammer » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:39 pm

Springer wrote:
Are you one of thoses who claims evolution to be "science"?


(Jerry) Springer - what is your purpose here? I'm trying to understand what type of person joins a biology forum to discuss scientific matters, only to trash and insult the very science that frameworks this forum.

Plus every time someone posts evolutionary related topics, you are quick in your attempt to discredit evolutionary thought, as if your goal is to convert or make us see things your way...which is still unclear.

So I ask again - what is you purpose here?


PS. Moderators - go ahead...delete this one again!
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Postby Squawkbox » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:52 pm

If scientists didnt discuss and debate things and give each other their opinions then science would either stagnate or any one could say any thing claiming it as science and go completely unquestioned. You may not agree with the arguements which are given but the point of a forum is surely discussion. It would be pretty boring if we all agreed with each other all of the time. Any way springer seems to have lost his voice...
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Postby Leben » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:38 pm

Okay I was reading this at the begining of this topic and someone mentioned 2.4% DNA difference. Now lets just say there is 2% difference, closer right. Now does anyone know how many base pairs difference that is? 60 million base pair difference. AT LEAST!!!
Anyone want to calculate how many mutations that it would take through each generation of ape/chimpanzee to end up with a human?
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Postby Leben » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:41 pm

Now I will admit right now that I am against evolution, it just never made sence to many. There are just to many variables that do not add up.
And my question I would like to ask is if we evolved from apes/ chimps then why do we not find an animal that is 1% DNA different than us or even one that is .5? We is there only an animal that differes by 60,000,000 base pairs of DNA?
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