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Postby Dr.Stein » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:50 am

baikuza wrote:the source is our body self. if we do not body to be our source of energy -i.e.muscle, any living organ except bone and nerve cell- we won't alive, right? that's why docter give oxygen first before infuse because the passient have body.

I am not sure I can interprete this paragraph well enough, maybe my English is too poor to understand this... I am not sure what you meant by "body" here... I hope I interprete it correctly.

Well, if the source of energy is our body, why do you feel fatigue after exercising? and hungry as well? Why do you need a resting and eat? Our body is NOT the source of energy, our body is the machine. Food IS the source of energy and oxygen is the fuel. The food stored in our body is the other energy source. Maybe this is what you meant?

Why is our body alive? Because our cells are living. How can they survive? Because of the metabolism. I am sure you know what metabolism is. Oxygen is always included everywhere, you may forget that when you 'use' your muscle, you expend the oxygen within your muscle, that's the 'fixed' one, not the gas as we inhale. It will play a role in converting stored sugar (glycogen) into energy then you can contract and relax your muscle.

Well, I want to highlight (I marked it in bold) some lines of yours, you have to provide me more arguments/answers for them because I am not sure what you are talking about. Here is my argument:

"...when blood is lact of glucose the intersitium also lact of glucose..."
-----> I have no idea

"...when we are trying to hang on to not to eat something the felling,hunger, will dissapear for a few minutes. maybe we use our hormone to avoid the lact of glucose in our blood-glikogen in lever is converted to glucose
-----> the disappearing hunger is because our body uses stored sugar for the source of energy by gycogenolysis or gluconeogenesis. Yes, hormones play role here...glucagon and adrenalin.

"...CO2 is can attract hemoglobin more good than oxygen, so our brain will lact of oxygen..."
-----> Only after Hb releasing O2 into cell. Hb will have a big affinity to O2 rather than CO2 only after releasing CO2 in alveoli.

'...you know that our nerveous cell is the most active so it has more mitocondria, because has many mitocondria the cell need more oxygen to do metabolic reaction-aerob. the suplay is from our breath.
-----> Really? I am not sure. Yes it is active cell, but not the most as far as I know.

It's ok, I am not angry at all. This is a nice discussion and not a debate. I appreciate your arguments, of course :)
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Postby baikuza » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:53 am

intersitium... the matrix of tissue. the intercellular medium which is used for transportation, i mean for sirculation. have you try google?or any dictionary? i think i spell it correctly, but ... maybe not. so please take a dictionary. i have define it so i hope you do not misunderstand

qoute.
"...CO2 is can attract hemoglobin more good than oxygen, so our brain will lact of oxygen..."
-----> Only after Hb releasing O2 into cell. Hb will have a big affinity to O2 rather than CO2 only after releasing CO2 in alveoli.
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yes. that is why i said take a deep breath

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'...you know that our nerveous cell is the most active so it has more mitocondria, because has many mitocondria the cell need more oxygen to do metabolic reaction-aerob. the suplay is from our breath.
-----> Really? I am not sure. Yes it is active cell, but not the most as far as I know.
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i'm so sure. my teacher said that, and i belief it.
he said that the most active cell is nerve cells, then the second is muscle.

oh.. maybe i'm take it too much, so i think you are angry to me. hehe..
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Postby Dr.Stein » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:07 am

No problem, I use to face gangsters that much more annoying :lol:
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Postby baikuza » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:53 am

hey... my question for you are still not answered.

too many oxygen can make hallusination, right? hm... quite similar lie that.
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Postby Dr.Stein » Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:00 am

Which question? :roll:

Hallucination? I have no idea :?
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Postby Poison » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:37 pm

too many oxygen can make hallusination, right?


Why should it? I can not think of anything...
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Postby baikuza » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:22 am

hm.. i hear that from the movie. i think that's some how is true.(i did not try to find any reference, before.)

hm.. i think that's some how is true.
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Postby Dr.Stein » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:07 am

Movie? :shock: err... :roll:
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Postby baikuza » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:01 am

hey... many sains fiction movie not makes another theory of sains. and some are makes the new world that allow another theory that not exist in the earth. but ... oevr all the movie encaurage me to accept that.(some that i do not know before, but i do not accept those all)

hu..... scary right?
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Postby Dr.Stein » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:10 am

I don't get the point unless you provide the title and let me see ;)
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Postby baikuza » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:19 am

oh. no...!

that is a chinesse movie. but... i do not remember the title. (sorry...). that was a long time ago.

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