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Postby ravenstormm » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:24 pm

can any one tell me if there is any foundation to the claims made by some neurolingistic programming practicioners claims about being to heal neurological problems, the way in which we learn and think or is it just all hype :lol:
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Postby biostudent84 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:57 am

My vote is hype. We are so far away from being able to understand the human nervous system, and the fact that this is being commercialized on the net is enough evidence for me to disprove it.

Programming the human computer is nothing like programming the silicon computer. The two operate on completely different principles. One circut on a computer fails and the entire system does. We can remove entire parts of the brain...or even destroy every tenth random neuron, and the brain still functions with no adverse effects.

On the other hand...programming the brain is a little freaky. I'll double check with a buddy of mine. He's specializing in neuroscience...maybe he's heard of something on it.
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Postby Antje » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:00 am

You're right that is creepy, the fact that one could possibly program someone's brain... It is right up there with choosing your baby's everything :?
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Postby biostudent84 » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:27 pm

Possibly...but one is akin to mind control. The other is the parents deciding on what (they think) is best for their child.
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Postby Cyranian » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:07 am

Wouldn't this brain programming thing be kinda immoral too? I mean, I wouldn't want anyone treating me as a machine and insert chips into me and stuff. Besides, I'm agreeing with biostudent that it's hype in the sense that I've accidentally spilled coffee inside my comp's CPU and it haven't exactly been running normally afterwards.
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Postby Solid Snake » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:16 pm

i certainly think that anything like that can not be decided by one person for another. even parents for their children
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Postby Cyranian » Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:52 am

In addition, not to bring religion into this topic, but who are we to play God? Sure, we have numerous breakthroughs through the use of our advanced technology, but it's not anyone's right to control anyone else. One's life is for one's own to control, no matter how great our tech might be.
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Postby biostudent84 » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:23 pm

First off, I want to say that I would be dead-set against this...

But is this not far removed from using means to train a dog to sit or lay down?
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Postby Cyranian » Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:14 am

The way I see it, training a dog to perform various actions is like teaching someone how to do certain duties. That's external involvement. However, fixing up someone's brain to do things right would be internal involvement. You would actually be going into someone else's body to correct things. Dogs can remember what you teach them to do, but once something's amended in the body, I don't think you can undo it.
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Postby biostudent84 » Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:17 am

**insert evil grin here**

Once you teach a child the meaning of a nasty word, it is not easily undone, no?

Other than the actualy procedure, you would still get the same effect, yes?
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Postby Cyranian » Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:41 am

Haha, you fight fiercely.
But is it better to verbally teach a child the meaning of the F word or to perform an operation on his/her brain to make them remember what that word means? I would so much rather be taught how to use an AK-47 like an elite and forget it later on, than to have the method implanted in my brain so that I couldn't forget it even if I tried.
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Postby biostudent84 » Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:38 am

Oh, don't get me wrong, I still am against it.

Not knowing much about guns, but isn't gunnery a skill like most others? Once you learn it, it is difficult to forget..

Please explain why you think these two different methods of obtaining knowledge would have differing levels of effectiveness?
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