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Postby catfishjim » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:04 pm

Linn:

I repeat myself that gravity and electricity are fact. The evidence is there.
Evolution is a theory. There is NO evidence.
You are refering to the explanation for the phenomena of gravity and electricity.
ver Springer's job? :?

Gravity and electricity are not facts, they are successful ways of describing observable phenomena. And the exact same thing is true of evolution, too. Maybe someday someone will come up with new explanantions that are even more useful, then we can ditch them all. But right now, they are the best we have. That's science.
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:06 pm

OK I give up :wink:
I just turned on the light.
How did that happen?
And oh, some how I am not floating around. But am being held here by some force. must be imagining things.
But I did see that missing fossil in one of those layers. :roll:
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:15 pm

catfishjim wrote:
Linn:

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Gravity and electricity are not facts, they are successful ways of describing observable phenomena. And the exact same thing is true of evolution, too. Maybe someday someone will come up with new explanantions that are even more useful, then we can ditch them all. But right now, they are the best we have. That's science.


I hear you,
thank you for explaining the meaning of theory.
and I can agree with you then on the subject of gravity and electricity.
Now I feel even stronger about the evolution view because I have not been presented with observable phenomena. That is what I meant in my other posts. When I said an explanation of the phenomena.
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Postby GAG CAT UUG » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:34 pm

Found this cartoon (forgot where), but let's leave all this debating up to the kids we teach...let them decide! :roll:
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:55 pm

lol thanks for a lighter note!
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Postby mith » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:52 pm

Linn, you're not the first to bring these same questions up. I don't feel like repeating myself so look on the other threads for yourself.
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Postby mith » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:32 pm

http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/ ... tting.html
Complex things come from simple unrelated components.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
Having evidence doesn't change a theory into a fact...at least not according to a scientific definition of theory..

Fact is defined as something true...you're going to have to use philosophy to define what's true though ;)
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:10 pm

what is the point of you saying your not the first to bring up these questions?

Because you are unable to answer any of them?

Do you mean the evidence question?

I would like to have a good debate.


Have you actualy read my original posts?
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:19 pm

mithrilhack wrote:http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/DI/clot/Clotting.html
Complex things come from simple unrelated components.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
Having evidence doesn't change a theory into a fact...at least not according to a scientific definition of theory..

Fact is defined as something true...you're going to have to use philosophy to define what's true though ;)


I fail to see the clotting of a lobster as evidence, but thank you for the article on theory
looks interesting I am printing it for later reading. You CAN teach an old dog tricks :)
All you faithfull evolution believers need to relax and open your mind a bit.
Some things are so simple they elude you!
weel,
I have to get off line my neck is killing me.
later
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Postby mith » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:29 am

No because I already addressed them, and believe it or not, I do have a life(WOW!).
Lobster clotting is one of those irreducible complexity cases brought up by Behe in his Dawin's Black Box book and this article shows the flaws of determining something as irreducibly complex simply because the person(Behe) can't figure out a way for it to happen, not that there isn't a way for it to happen.
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Postby Linn » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:51 am

The fossil record does more to prove creation than it does evolution.
the fossil record shows that life forms appear suddenly rather than gradualy.

And as regards the so-called missing links as mentioned previously, (See I notice you!), there is no evidence that such evolved in to something else. Many things that once exsisted are now extinct.
Why do you not believe what you have with your own eyes?
Why this crazy search for something that does not exsist?

and some so called missing links such as Eohippus, supposedly the earliest horse, more closely resembles an African daman.

There are fossils of horses of different sizes and shapes, but they are still horses.

And, if I somehow missed out on a new find that clearly shows a reptilian/bird please fill me in.

My apologies
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Postby GAG CAT UUG » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:01 pm

Linn wrote:The fossil record does more to prove creation than it does evolution.
the fossil record shows that life forms appear suddenly rather than gradualy.



So you're saying that throughout 4.6 billion years, a so-called creator every-now-and-then creates a new species??? This creator must be extremely busy creating new species of organisms from bacteria to plants to animals....OH MY! How does it have time to answer prayers?
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