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DNA Alteration

Postby Nemi » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:17 pm

What do you all think about DNA Alteration? By that I mean when a mother and father pick the way they want there unborn child to look, or what sex they want it to be. How do you feel about that?
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Postby Bio-Hazard » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:48 pm

Don't care.
Stopped caring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

I would say that if someone is going to create a smarter breed of human, things will get out of hand when they turn against the unintelligent breed.

aka me and you = unaltered/less intelligent

hopefully more intelligent can be put to work in the science field than the arts.

Could be interesting to see the next level of art, but I rather have cures coming out of the work.
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Postby MrMistery » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:25 pm

Gattaca comes to mind..
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Postby Nemi » Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:23 pm

Are you trying to say I'm not smart? I was just wondering what people thought about DNA Alteration. I personally don't think It's right. Only God should have the right to make humans.
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Postby Poison » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:27 pm

This is a biology forum. No religious posts please.
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Postby LilKim » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:52 am

picking the sex of a child happens every day ... in almost every country of the world. Whereas, picking what a child "looks-like" is really .... really, REALLY difficult to do. And, as far as DNA alteration in humans ... well, you'd really have to look for it and you'd have to be a billionaire to afford to engineer a baby. Thus, "engineered or designer-babies" are waaay far off in the distance, and may not actually be a reality or a commonality anytime in the near future.

And... you should re-read Bio-hazards post ... he or she clearlyy is reffering to himself (or she) and you (Biodun) in the analogy. And he's not saying you're stupid... just that both of you would be members of the 'unintelligent' race if a more intelligent race was engineered.

As far as religion and biology ... Ahhhh, i'd love to get into that talk. But, I think it's against the rules ... so i'll just have to "let-it-go"

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Postby jnkdna » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:52 am

i think its wrong. parents should just accept wat is given to them, whether its a boy or girl, smart or not.
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Postby LilKim » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:08 pm

Lets use our imaginations for a moment . . .

Imagine that you married the perfect partner and you (or your wife) became pregnant. Of course you're really excited happy... and looking forward to meeting the newest member of your family. Everything is going well ... and after several months (3 or 4) you have an ultrasound and prenatal screening tests. ... only to realize that something is wrong. The baby is alive however he has a genetic disease that will cause him to be severely mentally retarded, have congenital physical malformations. And, children known to have this "disease" have an elevated incidence of cancer ... and they'll never have the capacity to live independantly.

However, you child will be a happy child (emotionally) and may never actually 'notice' that he isn't normal.

*SNAP!*

Back to reality now...

how would you feel about keeping this child? Would you want to bring him to term? or would you terminate ... and try again?

Personally, i've never been in the situation and I always think it's alot easier to say what you would do, and what you think is the correct thing to do when you're looking from the outside .. However, if you're actually IN the situation ... it's a different story.

and I would NEVER EVER pass judgement on anyone who decided to terminate. (they can speak to their creator about it... it's not my business)

... anyways, i'm just trying to give another perspective

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Postby jnkdna » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:18 am

it depends on the reason why u want alter DNA. if its cuz a person has a genetic disease then its ok, but if its cuz ur child doesnt have blue eyes then its wrong. DNA alteration should only be done to help cure genetic diseases and should not be abused.
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Postby LilKim » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:13 pm

jnkdna wrote:it depends on the reason why u want alter DNA. if its cuz a person has a genetic disease then its ok, but if its cuz ur child doesnt have blue eyes then its wrong. DNA alteration should only be done to help cure genetic diseases and should not be abused.


totally agree... I personally wouldn't choose a child for eye color or hair color or sex (because I think that's wrong!). However if it's a genetic disesase ... I think my thought process would be different.

I have a friend who recently aborted a pregnancy ... the fetus was about 4.5 months old and the doctors just reliazed that .... half of her brain was missing. If left alone, the baby would have been brought to term... born alive. And could possible live for a few hours or a few years.

I totally supported my friend in the decision (i would have supported her decision regardless!!) Now, she is grieving the loss of her child.

... although this is not exactly a case of "genetic alteration" .. it could be considered 'selective termintion of a less-intelligent person'. (there is a very thin line!)

Additionally, gene replacement therapy (although it hasn't been perfected...) will save millions of lives and improve the quality of millions of lives. So, I strongly ... strongly support that kind of research!

anyways.. that's my 2 cents ... (if you cared)
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Postby jnkdna » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:31 am

yeah i agree with u. but the problem is not everybody will do it just to cure diseases. others will definitely research on eye. hair color etc. cuz there are many ppl hu r intersted in dat.
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Postby David George » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:38 pm

What I am bothered is that humans will start to evolve in a totally different way if I am right is that is going to harm humans.
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