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[News] Frank Baker survives ''spontaneous combustion''

Postby Coelacanth » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:40 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/0 ... 24833.html

Frank Baker faced death while earning two Purple Hearts in Vietnam, but the scariest moment of his life came in June 1995.

Baker was in his home in Vermont, when he suddenly burst into flames, an experience he discusses for the first time on "The Unexplained Files," airing Oct. 2 on the Science Channel.

"We were getting ready for fishing and sitting on the couch," Baker said on the episode. "Everything was great. [Friend] Pete [Willey] was sitting next to me [and] we were having a helluva time."

That is, until things started heating up -- literally -- when flames appeared on Baker's body.

"It was the damndest thing I've ever seen," Willey remembered. "Frank was freaking out and making me freak out."

Baker started panicking and tried everything to stop his body from being burned.

"I had no idea what was taking place on my body -- none," he said.

Baker and Willey somehow put out the flames and got to a doctor. But the diagnosis was as shocking as the sudden flames that engulfed his body.

"The doctor called, and said, 'Frank, this burned from the inside out,'" Baker said.


Frank Baker discussed his alleged case on Oct. 2, on the Unexplained Files on the Science Channel. No skeptical input whatsoever is offered in the news source (which did irk me) so I'm wondering what you guys think.

He was then diagnosed with partial spontaneous combustion. He says on his Facebook he wants donations because he's having testing done and for finding a cure. He recently sold his home so there must be truth to this story because he seems really desperate he says this has happened to him 3 times so far and that there may not be a fourth.
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Postby Coelacanth » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:50 am

I also should mention that hydrogen peroxide and acetone exist in the cells, when these mix together above 10 c it creates an explosive chemical which can actually detonate even if it's underwater spontaneously

It is of course possible to have a deficiency in catalase and over-production of acetone .. but even if the hydrogen peroxide and acetone concentrations are slight, acetone peroxide is insoluble in water and hence would be expected to accumulate.
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Postby JackBean » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:52 am

So he burned from inside out but they managed to stop it? Did they cut his stomach or what?
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Postby Coelacanth » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:28 pm

JackBean wrote:So he burned from inside out but they managed to stop it? Did they cut his stomach or what?


No, the article implies it was heavily localized.

If you read my theory, SHC suddenly becomes extremely plausable?
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Postby JackBean » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:09 am

Coelacanth wrote:when these mix together above 10 c it creates an explosive chemical


What exactly is the 10 c?

Your theory is nice, but catalase is far from being the only enzyme removing H2O2, there are plenty of various peroxidases. Even if not, H2O2 is highly reactive, so it would react with anything, especially the double bonds (that's why there are so many peroxidases).
Also, you said explode, that's quite something different from combustion.

What I was refering to is the
"The doctor called, and said, 'Frank, this burned from the inside out,'

If it burned from inside out, how did they manage to extinguish it?
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Postby Coelacanth » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:36 pm

JackBean wrote:
Coelacanth wrote:when these mix together above 10 c it creates an explosive chemical


What exactly is the 10 c?

Your theory is nice, but catalase is far from being the only enzyme removing H2O2, there are plenty of various peroxidases. Even if not, H2O2 is highly reactive, so it would react with anything, especially the double bonds (that's why there are so many peroxidases).
Also, you said explode, that's quite something different from combustion.

What I was refering to is the
"The doctor called, and said, 'Frank, this burned from the inside out,'

If it burned from inside out, how did they manage to extinguish it?


I assume whatever chemical imbalance that caused the combustion, had been used up within a second or so, but the remaining heat allowed for the skin to catch fire and go on from there, where it was put out like a normal fire, but there was fire damage on the inside of the body as well, near where the flames started.
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