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Postby fran008 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:36 am

'The cell membrane is an effective barrier between the cell and the surrounding environment' this is quoted from my teacher's biology notes...but how applicable it is? What makes it sooo effective?
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Postby sdekivit » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:57 am

it can regulate what goes in and out for most compounds through membrane channels and transporters (except for certain drugs / steroids / fats and water)
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Postby Navin » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:58 pm

Being partially(selectively) permeable, the cell surface membrane "selects" what enters or leaves the cell.
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Postby new_guy » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:57 pm

for example , the ammount of sodium/natrium ion inside the cell must always be smaller than outside of the cell (sorry for the bad biology language :oops: ..) , cell membrane will make sure that these condition will not change , it does need ATP
I think...... :? please correct me if I'm wrong ...
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Postby Morris » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:11 pm

Yes it needs ATP, because Na is more concentrated out the cell than in; to maintain concentration cell must expel ions agains theri gradient and this proces needs ATP.
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Postby Poison » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:39 pm

Yes, active transport needs ATP but passive transport doesn't.
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Re: Cell Membrane

Postby rambo » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:53 am

fran008 wrote:'The cell membrane is an effective barrier between the cell and the surrounding environment' this is quoted from my teacher's biology notes...but how applicable it is? What makes it sooo effective?

too add on to the cell membranes list of its use, it is made up of proteins and fats therefore its helps the cell stay durable for its time of use.
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Postby rambo » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:18 am

new_guy wrote:for example , the ammount of sodium/natrium ion inside the cell must always be smaller than outside of the cell (sorry for the bad biology language :oops: ..) , cell membrane will make sure that these condition will not change , it does need ATP
I think...... :? please correct me if I'm wrong ...

WOW U SOUND CONFUSED. BUT ITS COO CUZ ITS SIMPLE. U MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE SODIUM PUMPS IN OUR CELL MEMBRANES. ON OUR CELL MEMBRANES WE HAVE THIS TUBES THAT ARE CIRCULAR CALLED GLOBULAR PROTEINS THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL GATES FOR SODIUM AND POTASSIUM EXCHANGE. FOR EVERY 3 SODIUMS INSIDE THE CELL IS EXCHANGED FOR 2 POTASSIUM IN EXTRACELLULAR FLUID. THEN VICE VERSA. ATP IS NEEDED TO ACTIVATE THE OPENING OF THE GLOBULAR PROTEIN (WHICH IS LOCATED ON OUR MEMBRANE). FATS HOLD THESE PROTEINS TOGETHER FORMING THE CELL MEMBRANE.
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Postby baikuza » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:24 pm

he..he..
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1. semi-permeable property
2. hydrophobic properties
3. regulation (vacuola contractile)(mm.. Energies are needed)
4. the lipid bilayer structure (hei.. thanks poison :P )
5. a place for the "sensory part"(u know just like at limfosit T and ..hei there are so much to mentioned here)-this make cell take response(s) on thing(s) out side there.
6. mm.. a place where metabolic processes take place (hei there are ATP,GTP,CTP,TTP...UTP(?))
7. .....(lost of word)
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Postby Terry K. » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:32 pm

Also, the cell membrane is important in the Na+/K+ pump. This uses Na+ to generate a gradient by which i believe ATP can be formed. Also, it is important in the membrane certain organelles in order to create a proton pump which I know is used to generate ATP.
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Postby new_guy » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:53 pm

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Postby Terry K. » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:15 pm

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