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Postby maunas » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:18 am

Hi wbla3335,
I begin by answering your last question first:
In the future our brotherhood will be mantained by us, as:-" we are I . let us unify in to one I . The body we will make will be of the bigger I of us. manifestation of the self of humanity is God. He becomes possible by subjugating our self’s in the service of the self of humanity. only I can save our existence. I am You and You are Me."

THE sELF OF HUMANITY WILL FORM WHEN ALL OUR BRAINS IMPROVED BY TECHNOLOGICAL GADJETS AND THOSE OF OUR CREATED TECHNOLOGICAL INTELLIGENCES GET CONNECTED TO FORM A SUPER BRAIN.THIS SUPER BRAIN WILL BE CAPABLE OF TAKING SINGLE DECISIONS FOR PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE ENTIRE MANKIND.This self of humanity is god.Within a few billion years god will learn to create big bang singularity.I am typing these words because the initial cracks or disorders in the homogenity of the big bang singularity had predetermined my existence and behaviour in time (unaffected by the background randomness which is the cause of freewill-see below).The above defined god creates inhomogenities in the big bang singularity which in turn predetermines the recreation of the similar god again.This god again creates a new inhomogeneous big bang singularity by the end of time of the next universe and so on infinitely. The infinity of this process is the reason for background randomness which is the infinite consciousness of the big bang.
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Re: Are Creationists more right than evolutionists after all

Postby wbla3335 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:56 am

OK fine.
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Postby ughaibu » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 pm

maunas wrote:(1) Religion occurs from change required for future survival.
(2) Man is the nearest Godly thing because no one has travelled from the future or past or any other part of the universe to guide or rule us.
(3) Manifestation of the self of humanity is God.
(4) the singularity of the Big Bang most probably existed because a previous universe existed.
(5) God is able to recreate himself again and again through the infinite consciousness packed in the cosmic egg.
Statement 1 is a statement of evolutionism, and as far as I can tell, it is the only statement on the list with a connection to your title for the thread, assuming that in 5 you're using "God" as defined in 3. However, in statements 2 and 5 your usage of "God" and "Godly thing" appears to refer to different definitions from that given, in 3.
Statement 4 appears to rely on realism about the big bang, this is a contentious metaphysical stance.
In short, you have given no reason, that I can see, for your reader to consider the possible truth of the suggestion that creationists might be "more right" than evolutionists. On the contrary, your thesis appears to depend on the correctness of evolutionism and be independent of creationism.
Overall, you have a list of dubious and ill-defined statements which aren't coordinated by any logical structure and have no implication concerning your title, as far as I can tell, so you haven't yet got an argument.
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Postby maunas » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:30 am

Hi wbla3335,
I begin by answering your last question first:
In the future our brotherhood will be mantained by us, as:-" we are I . let us unify in to one I . The body we will make will be of the bigger I of us. manifestation of the self of humanity is God. He becomes possible by subjugating our self’s in the service of the self of humanity. only I can save our existence. I am You and You are Me."

THE sELF OF HUMANITY WILL FORM WHEN ALL OUR BRAINS IMPROVED BY TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE OF OUR CREATED TECHNOLOGICAL INTELLIGENCES GET CONNECTED TO FORM A SUPER BRAIN.THIS SUPER BRAIN WILL BE CAPABLE OF TAKING SINGLE DECISIONS FOR PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE ENTIRE MANKIND.This self of humanity is god.Within a few billion years god will learn to create big bang singularity.I am typing these words because the initial cracks or disorders in the homogenity of the big bang singularity had predetermined my existence and behaviour in time (unaffected by the background randomness which is the cause of freewill-see below).The above defined god creates inhomogenities in the big bang singularity which in turn predetermines the recreation of the similar god again.This god again creates a new inhomogeneous big bang singularity by the end of time of the next universe and so on infinitely. The infinity of this process is the reason for background randomness which is the infinite consciousness of the big bang.
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Postby canalon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:01 am

maunas wrote:THE sELF OF HUMANITY WILL FORM WHEN ALL OUR BRAINS IMPROVED BY TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE OF OUR CREATED TECHNOLOGICAL INTELLIGENCES GET CONNECTED TO FORM A SUPER BRAIN.THIS SUPER BRAIN WILL BE CAPABLE OF TAKING SINGLE DECISIONS FOR PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE ENTIRE MANKIND.T

This is wishful thinking, not afat. Ergo it has about as much value as an argument as the color of my socks. If that is the level of discussion that ou want to have, I suggest you go back to elementary school where "my dad is a police officer" has some weight in a discussion. And stop annoying the adults with your senseless blathering.
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Postby maunas » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:55 pm

Hi ughaibu,
all your queries will get answered if you read the write up given before the debating points.
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Postby maunas » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:05 pm

Hi canalon,
Back ground randomness is a fact. I have also suggested an experiment in which brain detached from the body causes more random dreams.
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Postby canalon » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:35 am

maunas wrote:Hi canalon,
Back ground randomness is a fact. I have also suggested an experiment in which brain detached from the body causes more random dreams.

And? I said that your suggestion that all brains will be connected is wishful thinking, I have not addressed anything else in your "essay."
Citing unrelated facts does not make an argument. The fact that "2+2=4" does not imply that you are an idiot with delusion of being smart. Neither would be the suggestion that we study the brains of formalin preserved frogs. I would need a completely different set of facts to prove that.
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Postby maunas » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:58 am

wbla3335 said:-
Then say big bang singularity. New-Age speak doesn't go far on a scientific forum. So what, exactly, is "infinite consciousness", and how (and why) would a god recreate itself through it? And how, exactly, is "infinite consciousness" packed in the big bang? And what, exactly, is "the self of humanity"? If you want to communicate your thoughts or ideas here, you will need to use language that (scientifically educated) people can relate to.

Hi wbla3335,
I begin by answering your last question first:
In the future our brotherhood will be mantained by us, as:-" we are I . let us unify in to one I . The body we will make will be of the bigger I of us. manifestation of the self of humanity is God. He becomes possible by subjugating our self’s in the service of the self of humanity. only I can save our existence. I am You and You are Me."

THE sELF OF HUMANITY WILL FORM WHEN ALL OUR BRAINS IMPROVED BY TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE OF OUR CREATED TECHNOLOGICAL INTELLIGENCES GET CONNECTED TO FORM A SUPER BRAIN.THIS SUPER BRAIN WILL BE CAPABLE OF TAKING SINGLE DECISIONS FOR PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE ENTIRE MANKIND.This self of humanity is god.Within a few billion years god will learn to create big bang singularity.I am typing these words because the initial cracks or disorders in the homogenity of the big bang singularity had predetermined my existence and behaviour in time (unaffected by the background randomness which is the cause of freewill-see below).The above defined god creates inhomogenities in the big bang singularity which in turn predetermines the recreation of the similar god again.This god again creates a new inhomogeneous big bang singularity by the end of time of the next universe and so on infinitely. The infinity of this process is the reason for background randomness which is the infinite consciousness of the big bang. The infinite consciousness in the big bang singularity is caused by the infinite times the fates of various past universes have been written on it by us and this is the cause of background randomness in the present Universe.
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Postby maunas » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:12 am

canalon said
This is wishful thinking, not afat. Ergo it has about as much value as an argument as the color of my socks. If that is the level of discussion that ou want to have, I suggest you go back to elementary school where "my dad is a police officer" has some weight in a discussion. And stop annoying the adults with your senseless blathering.[/quote]

HI CANALON,
It is not wishful thinking,it is a fact. Internet is a very primitive state of the godly brain.
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Postby canalon » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:22 pm

maunas wrote:canalon said
canalon wrote:This is wishful thinking, not afat. Ergo it has about as much value as an argument as the color of my socks. If that is the level of discussion that you want to have, I suggest you go back to elementary school where "my dad is a police officer" has some weight in a discussion. And stop annoying the adults with your senseless blathering.


HI CANALON,
It is not wishful thinking,it is a fact. Internet is a very primitive state of the godly brain.


No it is not. You assert that internet is that, but for the moment Internet is essentially a porn viewing device (so probably a male brain). but very far from anything that we could call a brain as it is not independent. You do not offer facts, you offer conjectures and assertions. You might be providing the supplementayr facts I was alluding to in my previous post.
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Re: Are Creationists more right than evolutionists after all

Postby maunas » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:22 am

Hi canalon,
Have you heard of swarm intelligence of internet?
The field exploded in the last twenty years with the rise of computer science and the Internet. Swarm Theory lends itself perfectly to Artificial Intelligence. Computer learning is based on cycles of testing, valuation, and reiteration using simple heuristics and leveraging computational brute force. This is analogous to leveraging the many thousands of simply-programmed individual agents within a swarm. Google uses a variation of Swarm Theory to discern authorities and rank pages.
check up:
http://peopletriggers.wordpress.com/201 ... y-smarter/
http://ai-lab-03.dia.uniroma3.it/wp-con ... ECAI04.pdf
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 074035.htm
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