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Postby JackBean » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:05 pm

Putting something into eyes is for your experiment to set how deadly substance is? :roll:
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Postby OdinsRaven » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:26 pm

It's probably the result of a reaction between the metal and the soap and water.
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Postby WillyTNo » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:36 pm

No not at all I was just exaggerating JorgeLobos ignorance, for if you don't know what something is how could you conclude that it's not deadly with out testing in a lab or discovering it is. I may have exaggerated a bit too far, I mean no harm to JorgeLobo and I would never construct such contract, for humans are more equal than other organisms. I now apologize to JorgeLobo. I am sorry for my rudeness, and hope all is forgiven.
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Re: Growth on metal pot?!

Postby WillyTNo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:51 am

Oh like the after math of when bubbles dry on a particular surface creating weird structures? Or would this be a different reaction?
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Postby JackBean » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:19 am

If it was deadly, you probably would not post your question here ;)
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Postby JorgeLobo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:51 am

No willy - in fact I'm quite famiiar with the potential microbiology and chemistry involved. In either context I'm not aware of any fitting a "deadly" scenario. Is it going to jump off the pot and strangle the oroginal poster? If there was a deadly presence, not only would the original poster be dead but there'd be a fair body count if such mundane practices on not cleaning dishes were deadly.

Tell us willy, what would be a "deadly" precedent - or are you seeing this as a case of spontaneous and deadly generation or are you ignorant of the microbiology and chemistry involved?

As odins says - it's probably not even biological. Alot of melodrama ovr a dity dish.
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Postby michimichi » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:51 pm

JorgeLobo wrote:Deadly ? Please don;t be so melodramatic - this is just poor kitchne hygiene.

I used the term "deadly" because i think that was he is concerning about,
I should have said--pathogenic, disease-causing organism,
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Re: Growth on metal pot?!

Postby JorgeLobo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:28 am

I see michi. I just don't see the etiology. This is on dirty dish - so it's not obvious that it can effect pathogenicity. We're exposed the potential pathogens all the time but they have to reach us in a manner that can affect us. Unless this colony/clot of stuff leaps off the dish in some manner or the poster inadvisably uses the dirty dish - there doesn't seem to be a way that can make it dangerous, if it even has that potential.
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Postby JorgeLobo » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:37 pm

Sorry willy - you again offer nothing of substance. Do you know nothing in the way of microbiology? i anticipate you don't so let me help you. Food microbiology addresses specific pathogens rather than numbers (some foods carry milions of bacteria per gram) and such pathogens are well characterized and documented. I refer you to the US FDA "Bad Bug Book"
http://www.fda.gov/food/foodsafety/food ... efault.htm
I'm familiar with the bug so listed anddon;t see any that offer potential to leap from a dirty pot and prove deadly. Perhaps you have a different perspective and can identify a scenario by which one would pose such a risk.
This doesn;t preclude some new leaping pathogen arriving from outer space or via spontenaous generation - was that what you meant?
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Postby WillyTNo » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:39 pm

This is great, no Jorge I'm sorry. Anyone else have an idea of what this could be? Someone who's not going to refer me to read a book, which isn't a bad idea, but my schedule doesn't give me that kind of time for I have other books to read. Thats why I'm seeking information on this forum.
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Re: Growth on metal pot?!

Postby JorgeLobo » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:30 pm

As odinsravien (aka raven) said, it could be chemical. some kind of soap. But most dish washing products are surfactant based rather than soap. Is your water pretty hard (alot of Calcium and Magnesium)?
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Postby JackBean » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:28 pm

WillyTNo wrote:This is great, no Jorge I'm sorry. Anyone else have an idea of what this could be? Someone who's not going to refer me to read a book, which isn't a bad idea, but my schedule doesn't give me that kind of time for I have other books to read. Thats why I'm seeking information on this forum.


Do you think this will be faster? We can hardly give you any advice if we do not know even whether is it really biological (alive) or just something chemical.
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