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Postby alextemplet » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:18 pm

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Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

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Postby karl » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:54 pm

This goes out to Arun, the whole point of survival is survival! This is also not diying, so you answered your own question
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:01 pm

In evolutionary terms, I think survival has more to do with successfully reproducing, and thus passing on genes to the next generation, than it does with actually surviving. Hence the many species that die as a part of reproducing.
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Postby shyan » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:25 am

darwins survival of the fittest has been proven wrong-all induviduals have an equal chance of passing on there genes. what it all boils down to is luck, really.
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Postby damien james » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:50 am

shyan wrote:darwins survival of the fittest has been proven wrong-all induviduals have an equal chance of passing on there genes. what it all boils down to is luck, really.


That is not correct and there are many reasons why. Too many to list here.
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Postby GregV » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:35 am

If things evolved in this big freak accident, of course which could never happen again as it did,

How did, over several thousand to a few million years, did the lungs evolve accidently,

along with the brain wiring that happened to evolve along with the digestive tract, so we could digest the food,

all along while the jawbone was evolving at the same time accidently,
so we could chew our food, and my balleen strainer teeth disapeared at the same time,

and the brain rewired and told me not to use my gills anymore, while the ability to breathe air, without gills, accidentally evolved at the same time,

and of course the immune system evolved accidently all at the same time,

Waite a minute, this is really getting confusing...

How did they all accidently evolve at the same time so I could survive, while my heart slowly evolved in order to make the first beat, while my brain accidently rewired itself for this to happen,

OH, my brain had to wire itself to remember this, and the kidneys and liver accidently evolved at the same time over millions of years, (It was really hard to survive while all of this was transpiring) especially while the liver had to learn how to do over 500 things all at once,

Oh, and my spinal chord with the nerves evolved accidently at the same time as all of the rest was accidently evolving...

And then the arteries and veins exploded into existence upon the first heartbeat, and accidently at the same time, the lymph system decided to accidently evolve over millions of years,

I guess the lymph system accidently evolved with the immune system, while the bones accedently tried to find a way over millions of years to produce the various types of blood cells and also components of the immyne system, (accidently with the spleen and other components)

Oh wait, my brain had to evolve and rewire to produce the urge to eat food,

This is really confusing me, while my brain had to evolve to try to understand this, and to know, Uh Oh!!!

I sure would have probably died by now....

Boy oh boy... talk about a freak of nature???

What are the mathematical odds of all of this being able to accidently take place accidently all at the same time, :? :( :wink: :shock: :shock:

WHAT A MIRACLE!!!

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Re: Evolution

Postby canalon » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:45 pm

GregV wrote:What are the mathematical odds of all of this being able to accidently take place accidently all at the same time, :? :( :wink: :shock: :shock:

WHAT A MIRACLE!!!


That would be indeed a miracle IF it accidentaly happened at the same time, but, and that is the point of the theory of evolution, iT DID NOT happen at the same time.
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Accidently happened all at the same time.

Postby GregV » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:31 pm

OK Canalon,

With all due respect,

They all happened right after each other accidently,

This calls me to such greater awareness, that accidents truly have a plan in mind and all of their own, and that accidents truly know what they're doing.

Right???
I mean no harm, just pokin at the "Theory"

Isn't the greater miracle found of the 2 "Theories",... to be that these things spontaneously accidently happened one after the other, which mathematically becomes impossible in the odds equation,

rather than the idea that somebody knew what they were doing in the first place?

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Postby mith » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:29 pm

I'll save us the typing

http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB101_1.html

Greg, being sincere in your beliefs doesn't make you right. I think you've been reading from the wrong sources, so my suggestion is that you take a look at the talkorigins site and look over some evolutionist and creationist claims and decide for yourself.
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Postby loveangel » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:35 am

can u give me the details about the theory of charles darwin about the giraffe????
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Postby alextemplet » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:32 pm

loveangel wrote:can u give me the details about the theory of charles darwin about the giraffe????


I thought it was Lamarck who had the theory about the giraffe?
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Postby kiekyon » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:24 pm

i think darwin's theory could apply to any organism, though i dont think he specifically mention giraffe
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