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Postby Revenged » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:37 am

DrDahlman wrote:I use no chiropractic technique in my practice, it's all nutrition and supplements.


:shock: - a chiropracter that uses no chiropracter techniques...

please elaborate more... i'm dying to hear this... :lol:
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Postby genovese » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:43 pm

DrDahlman is advertising openly on this forum with cures for potentially very serious diseases such as Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis. Whereas Irritable Bowel Syndrome is common and non-fatal, the first two mentioned diseases are potentially serious. There are plenty of other gastrointestinal diseases which can present with very similar symptoms such as all the different causes of malabsorption syndromes, gut infections and cancers.

People should be wary of persons who advertise cures. If DrDahlman truly believes that he has found a cure or a help for these conditions then I would expect him to have written papers on the topics in question in reputable medical journals. I would be delighted if he could give me the references so that we could see whether his treatment has been through proper controlled clinical trials.

Before obtaining a Medical Degree in the UK, I trained and qualified as an Osteopath. Having experienced the limitations of "alternative medicine" I decided to enroll in Medical School.
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Postby DrDahlman » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:20 pm

As I suspected and predicted, now we have two folks who cannot debate the merits of my treatments, they prefer to denigrate and try to diminish me as if that then determines the value of what I propose. Let me tell you what determines the value of what I suggest to my patients: the sheer volume of them who seek out help from me.
In an earlier post I suggested that anyone concerned should contact the Ohio State Board of Chiropractic, the Ohio State Attorney General or the Better Business Bureau to check me out and my reputation. If I was fooling people or not getting the results that satisfy them...think of all the complaints that must have been filed against me. But they have not. I have had contact with more than 15,000 people via phone or email and a million almost every year who visit my websites over the last 10 years. Surely a few would have been dissatisfied. I can remember one complaint.
So, continue your attacks. I continue unconcerned. My days are filled with great reward when an 80 year old WWII vet walks into my office in a diaper, suffering Crohn's Disease and complains that I am his doctor of last resort before he asks his gastroenterologist to remove his bowels so he can stop suffering for his last few years. Three months later he is having formed bowel movements, no diaper and no accidents anymore.
I continue to carry on without either of you. You are fools who believe that all "alternative" medicine is the same. It is not and I actually agree with a previous post about how much of "alternative" medicine is a sham and can be dangerous. But your thought process fails you when you lump my version of it into the same bag.
Sort of like the most acute failure of conventional medicine to think that one molecule (drug) can end one condition (symptom) in all people of differing size, gender, race and genes. It can't and that why millions flock to anything alternative. BTW, Osteopathy in America is not considered alternative, it has been taken under the wing of the medical schools with only slight regard for the founding tenets of that discipline. If ya can't fight 'em, absorb them!

So, if you can't debate the merits of the many parts of my exact protocol, you will be lost in the incessant attacks that serve nothing but making you feel good that you have found some sort of weakness in me. You haven't, I am busier than I can actually handle anymore. Please go to http://www.DrDahlman.com , download for free any of my reports, read them and then get back to me about where they lack the sense and success of conventional medicine. That we can sink our teeth into. But you can't or would be unwilling to take the chance you are wrong.

Studies? Research? By me? Why, when the research has already been done? I'm not taking guesses here. There is more research than you could read in a lifetime about the purpose of probiotics and its effect if those levels are substandard, imbalanced gut chemistry, effects of a lack of digestive enzymes, what happens when you lose your gall bladder, the negative effects (in some people) of dairy products, gluten containing foods and how to recognize a fructose intolerance. Then there's Celiac Disease and the inflammatory cascade caused by food allergies. Provide you with research? Sir, if you had any interest in knowing that all you would have to do is put any of the above terms into a search engine and you would see. If a general search engines scares you, please use the medical search engines like MedScape or MedLine.

Oh, what the heck...here, I'll do some research for you:

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Postby genovese » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:52 pm

Thank you for those references which I didn't ask for. I specifically asked for references which have been written by yourself. I have not denigrated your treatments because you haven't told me what they are yet. I would love to know - so please tell us.

There are no secrets in medicine, it is supposed to be available to all, nobody has special healing powers. So do give us the benefit of your treatments for say Chron's disease and Ulcerative Colitis so that we can discuss them and see why they are so successful compared with what is currently available.
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Postby DrDahlman » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:18 pm

Download the report from my website. It's not a short answer. That's the purpose of the website, to communicate my protocols to those who wish to read them. You can get an inkling of the treatment from my previous message: re-establish proper beneficial bacteria, identification of any abnormal organisms and their elimination, restoration of proper chemistry, use of digestive enzymes, elimination of dairy, gluten or fructose, Celiac Disease and the identification of food allergies. One patient may have 2-3 of these variables to address, another may have 7-8 of them.

I have no secret healing powers and there are no secrets. I agree. There is a difference in how any physician decides to use information to help their patients. Conventional medicine prefers to mask/manage/suppress symptoms with drugs loaded with side effects and others prefer to attempt to identify the cause of the condition and address that. Pretty simple difference.

Once again, I have no need to write any papers. I am a doctor, not a researcher. The double blind, placebo controlled studies have already been published in reputable journals and their interpretation is up to the individual doctor. I have simply taken the information contained in them and decided to address the findings using natural methods. Conventional medicine will place a Crohn's patient on dangerous anti-inflammatory meds like prednisone, 6-MP, Asacol, Methotrexate, Pentasa, Remicade and doctors like me want to get to the cause of the inflammatory process and eliminate those causes and sit back and watch the patient heal. Again, very simple.

So, I'm through providing you with information. Do the research and open your mind to the possibility of something else out there. Read about me. Google me, I'm all over the place. You can easily read about my protocols from the reports on my website. It's not my job to educate you when it would be so easy for you to find out all about me and my beliefs. I will respond to direct questions or debate about what you have found after reading my information, but not to these inane posts. I will do this for those who are sitting back and watching this foolishness...altho there probably aren't that many paying attention, so it's not worth trying to convince a couple of people when I should have answered the 30-40 emails that have come to me in the past hours that I have been dealing with you.

Read my information and get back to me or let's just stop.
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Postby genovese » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:53 pm

".............Read my information and get back to me or let's just stop."

Good idea.
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Postby Revenged » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:23 pm

plz shut this thread... i can't stand this publicity whore...

read my book, i get 500 e-mail a hour, read my website, look how much money i made, how little complaints...etc.

it's such blatant advertising...!!!

i don't see why you are bothering to advertise on this site... pretty much everyone on this forum has a very good understanding of biology and should be able to see through any of your nonsense...

and tbh i don't care much about your 'treatments'... if all your doing is giving out suppliments and people are stupid enough to pay a fortune for it then it's their problem not mine...
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Postby genovese » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:31 pm

Revenged says "plz shut this thread... i can't stand this publicity..."

I fully agree. Having been told that "spam" is not allowed, I find this type of self advertising even worse. I am surprised that it is tolerated. In the UK a Physician would be held to account for doing this type of thing.
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Postby DrDahlman » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:43 pm

I was notified by a "Google Alert" that my name was mentioned on this site. What did I find? Amazing that a great testimonial was met by such venom. So, I defended myself. You all are not the first to have shown such a mean spirit. Advertising? Hardly. That's not the goal. I mention my book and websites and the amount of wonderful people who come to me as a way of defending my business model. But you prefer to think those that come to me as fools because you are certainly smarter than they. You guys want to know who I am and what I stand for or do you just want to attack? You have made yourself clear about the type of people you are and how intellectually lazy you are. You have not at any time even slightly attempted to read anything I have written or suggest a patient do about any given condition. Your opinion is that if it isn't medical, it's a scam. Unfortunately, I don't have a natural cure for narrow mindedness. Enjoy yourselves and the "inside the box" world you live in. I'll just carry on without you. :cry:
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Postby MrMistery » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:07 pm

To our old users as well as our new users,
We have indeed been watching this thread that we considered as a possible problem. And the advertisements Mr Dahlman has made were indeed noticed. However, because he was asked for references and proof they were considered as answers to questions and not advertisements. Whether he succeeded in convincing anyone is a different issue. He certainly did not convince me, as there is a difference between publishing an article in a journal and publishing it on your web site. For 10000 dollars i can pay a web designer to make me a website that looks as good as NCBI and says i have found the cure for AIDS. That does not make it true.

To genovese and Revenged
Whether or not the university Dr.Dahlman attended is currently accredited or not is irrelevant if he has a valid legal right to practice his methods. The risks should be evaluated by both patients and the state organization that made him a doctor, as is the case with every other medical doctor. However, until they reach a contrary decision Mr Dahlman is a certified medical doctor and(in my personal opinion) can practice chiropractic and other alternative medicine as he pleases.

To DrDahlman
The "inside the box" thinking that you refer to is what science is. Science is the central dogma to our world, believing that something works just because someones says it does is a long-abandoned paradigm. While science is not inquisition, you need to understand that skepticism is the defining trait of a scientist. It is again my opinion that medicine should not be experimental, and something should not be practiced if it has not been proven to do more good than bad to a patient. However, i have not the vaguest idea of how your methods work, as I am not and will not become a medical doctor. But if they do work as good as you say and you can prove this, and also you want to help as many people as possible with your practices, I suggest you send your articles to medical journals around the world.

That is my final say on the subject, and hope that my intervention on this thread as a moderator will not be required again.
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Postby GegnianMD » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:32 am

Glucose is necessary, but sugar...who needs sugar ?¿ i dont recommend REFINED SUGAR as food. To me is not food.
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Re: Sugar Allergy

Postby bellablu1133 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:01 am

ok i am allergic to sugar CANE.. so when people talk about a sugar allergy it might be sugar cane.. which is an actual plant. out of all the things i am allergic to sugar cane is one of the worst ones, it makes me really sick. and before i found out i was allergic to it i never thought anyone would be allergic to sugar!

sugar cane or evaporated cane juice is in everything!! but by being allergic to sugar it does not mean glucose, natural sugars, sugar from fruit, literally sugar cane.

but people should know that splenda is made from sugar and if you are allergic to sugar cane you should stay away.. its sometimes written as sucralose on labels
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