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Postby victor » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:19 am

That writting is the same writting as my book..but, thanks..that reminds me.. :D
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:24 pm

Are you saying i went through the trouble of remembering for nothing? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby victor » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:44 am

I don't mean like that, but I just wanted to find some more information.... :wink:
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Postby dragonfuture » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:32 pm

hi i was wondering how does the virus infect us?
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Postby MrMistery » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:16 pm

google search, it is a far to complicated process to present here
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Postby kaylin » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:07 pm

virus is only live in in vivo system
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viruses live!!

Postby swimmer » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:36 pm

Hallo,
first of all I apologize for my bad English...
I've tried to read all the answers but still have a big mess in my mind about the question:why studying virus in biology?
My answer is just another question:so what you consider as "living"?
is it the ability to reproduce?they do
is it the ability to move?somehow they do
is it the ability to evolve?well...nothing as fast as virus in this planet..
so to me they are living organisms.
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Postby MrMistery » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:17 pm

Whether or not viri are alive or not is still a popular debate among virologists. Basically, as you said it is a matter of definition. Search the forum, we have discussed the definition of life countless times.

But no matter if living or non-living you study viri at biology because they influence the living world
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Postby victor » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:41 pm

Biology...science that studying living things....that's is said when we can determine something whether it's living or non-living...But, now we've discovered viruses and friends (viroids, satellites and prions) that're still among the debates whether they're living or non-living.
My suggestions is we don't have to ask why studying viruses in Bio because now, with those discoveries, it's hard to make a border between living and non-living. I know if you use the 'old criterias', you'll said that viruses are non-living so easy. But the tendency for viruses to act like the livings will makes you think twice (or more) to determine the viruses.
So, we don't have to ask it then and anyway...studying viruses is interesting, you should try it.. :D
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Re: viruses live!!

Postby Poison » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:50 pm

swimmer wrote:Hallo,
first of all I apologize for my bad English...
I've tried to read all the answers but still have a big mess in my mind about the question:why studying virus in biology?
My answer is just another question:so what you consider as "living"?
is it the ability to reproduce?they do
is it the ability to move?somehow they do
is it the ability to evolve?well...nothing as fast as virus in this planet..
so to me they are living organisms.
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Living thing: Basically the thing that can make cellular respiration.
1- They can not reproduce without a host.
2- where do ATP come from to provide movement?

Plus they become inactive outside a host. I used to think they were alive, but I changed my mind after discussing this here.

So, yes, search the forum for more info.
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Postby swimmer » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:27 pm

I'll do that.. :oops:
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Postby pedro21101 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:46 pm

What about this:
They are nonliving particles which live in us :D (I know - search the forum :D )
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