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Re: Why are flowers "beautiful"?

Postby JackBean » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:27 am

Crucible wrote:there is no "chicken egg" question.

The question is : how do you support this ?
My point is, that it doesn't taste sweet because we like it but vice versa

because it tastes sweet even to people, who don't like sweet. How do you support "like thereof it is sweet"?
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Re: Why are flowers "beautiful"?

Postby Crucible » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:23 am

We are animals that need sugars. The "liking or not liking" you mention, is normally a matter of what level of sweeetness is pleasant to a particular individual at a particular time.
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Postby aptitude » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:42 am

I am not understanding this discussion. Are you talking about the evolution of sweet receptors, or how sweetness is perceived?
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Postby Crucible » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:07 am

aptitude wrote:I am not understanding this discussion. Are you talking about the evolution of sweet receptors, or how sweetness is perceived?

Not sweet receptors, but sugar receptors. Just like salt receptors. As with light receptors in our eyes - we don't have cute receptors in our eyes. That part is in the mind.
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Re: Why are flowers "beautiful"?

Postby JackBean » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:37 pm

Crucible wrote:We are animals that need sugars. The "liking or not liking" you mention, is normally a matter of what level of sweeetness is pleasant to a particular individual at a particular time.

yeah, but that's all the discussion about, that we like the cake because it is sweet
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Re: Why are flowers "beautiful"?

Postby Crucible » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:30 pm

JackBean wrote:
Crucible wrote:We are animals that need sugars. The "liking or not liking" you mention, is normally a matter of what level of sweeetness is pleasant to a particular individual at a particular time.

yeah, but that's all the discussion about, that we like the cake because it is sweet
The above is why I tried to get you to talk about salt.

How about cute babies, then ?

The original question would relate to "why" babies are cute.
Your answer would then be "we like them because they are cute" - but that does not say why they are cute - or why we like cute things. There is no inherent cuteness or beauty in a colour, in a shape, or arrangement.
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Postby JackBean » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:27 am

what would the salt change about that? We still like or dislike it, because it's salty, not the other way round :roll:
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Postby Crucible » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:15 am

JackBean wrote:what would the salt change about that? We still like or dislike it, because it's salty, not the other way round :roll:
Because when you switch words, from "sugar" to "sweetness", you seem to have a mental glitch happening
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Postby JackBean » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:18 am

really? What's so nonsense about "we like salty food because it is salty or we dislike salty food because it is salty"?
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Postby Crucible » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:20 am

JackBean wrote:really? What's so nonsense about "we like salty food because it is salty or we dislike salty food because it is salty"?
Sorry, I edited to make the comment less abrasive.
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Postby Crucible » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:22 am

JackBean wrote:really? What's so nonsense about "we like salty food because it is salty or we dislike salty food because it is salty"?
It's fully nonsense. Why not just eat salt ?

We like cute babies because they are cute. That's your total input. Where are the cuteness receptors in the eyes ?
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Postby JackBean » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:25 am

you're making me sick of this. I will never eat any sugar or salt anymore. Happy now?

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JackBean wrote:really? What's so nonsense about "we like salty food because it is salty or we dislike salty food because it is salty"?
It's fully nonsense. Why not just eat salt ?

why not?
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