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Postby nettimo » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:18 am

Dear Reliefseeker,

If your leg is that swollen/tight, I'm sure you already know there is a good chance you have cellulitis and need IV antibiotics. Please check your temp, call your doctor to report your condition if it is any worse since you were seen, or go to an ER. You probably already know this, but you can also put a mark on your leg and use a tape measure to see if it is increasing in size. Give this info. also to your doctor, if you do not get seen tonight. Best to stay on the safe side, though we know it is tough to go through all this. Cellulitis is treatable. If you are worried about hospitalization (and added nosocomial infection) perhaps you could get IV A/B in ER and then community health to continue it at home asap. Good luck.
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Postby RANDY » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:17 am

Went to teh Internist at UVA and the Resident was great but then the Attending came in with his condescending smirk and smile of complete ignorance and addressed me as if he was talking to a crazy person..like..oh you have sarcoid dear...did you dignose yourslef like you did with this thing you are calling Morgellons???

Well thank the good lord I had all my medical records with me and I said "No,,according to a biopsy taken by your hospital on such and such a date they found..yatta yatta"...it was so nice to be able to fight back and show him how damn stupid he was being.....like.."oh dear you talk to someone at the CDC...really..while he rolled his eyeys at the Resident. Well yes..I have the letter from Dan Rutz to me and from Senator Allen to me and from the Secretary of Health and Humna Services and articles from the NEWS and info about Wymore and stuff from Citovsky...Bam!Bam! Got him with a right and a left!

And by the time I walked out of there he was looking pretty damn stupid. It was SSSOOOOCOOOOOOOOOL.

Anyway..I said to him I do not expect you to do anything about this condition since you are ill informed and do not care to gather any knoweldge since you seem to think you know it all. I just needed a primary care physician and wanted an internest as one. I would never expect more from you than you could possibly give.

Then I left.

It felt great!

But now he has all the info he needs..Georgia program, letters to government officials, CDC letters etc....believe you me the next person that walks through his doors will get treated better than I did and now he has no excuse to claim ignorance plus he knows that all doctors that know and are refusing to investigate get reported to my Senator.

Loved it! A few years ago I would have left in tears...this time I left with a huge..YOU ARE THE STUPID ONE DOC..expression on my face and it felt really, really good!

I all hope you get your medical records and letters from State reps and info from the CDC and get your State labs organized so you can do what I did and BAM!

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Postby RANDY » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:18 am

nettimo wrote:Dear Reliefseeker,

If your leg is that swollen/tight, I'm sure you already know there is a good chance you have cellulitis and need IV antibiotics. Please check your temp, call your doctor to report your condition if it is any worse since you were seen, or go to an ER. You probably already know this, but you can also put a mark on your leg and use a tape measure to see if it is increasing in size. Give this info. also to your doctor, if you do not get seen tonight. Best to stay on the safe side, though we know it is tough to go through all this. Cellulitis is treatable. If you are worried about hospitalization (and added nosocomial infection) perhaps you could get IV A/B in ER and then community health to continue it at home asap. Good luck.
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Excellent advice..please follow it.
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Postby reliefseeker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:50 am

No, Nettimo my leg is not tight, secretions coming from skin and constricting it, making it tight but if I was an infectious disease doctor I would be fascinated just like I 'm now....I loosen it...yes I actually loosen it with olive oil and it tightens again. Wounds don't look infected and I have cortisporin ointment,very good stuff!. Dr. Swartz said take biltrcide for weekly dosing and intermittent dosing of ivermectin for his protocol, this doctor will not do this but going to the ER is not good for us because they treat (and most times not even treat) and release telling you to see your primary physician...I want the infectious disease doctor to turn me over to the parasitologist maybe he/she won't be scared to do what is needed...

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Postby London » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:05 am

Relief seeker,

Hi, my legs stay swollen too. My Dr. has never mentioned cellucitis. I had heard of it but did not know what it was. (Seems an accurate diagnosis for me would be cellulitis, since I only eat about 600 calories a day but still gain weight.) :) Also, those "things" you think are parasites (if you think it is a worm) is more than likely only fumed silicate. I posted an article with a photo of a siicon worm on or about the 16 of August on this forum. You may benefit from taking a look at it.

Skytroll,

I read you last post-the one with the colors in the text but could not make your Hlink work. Not even by copy-pasting it. Also, since you were mentioning the embiosymbionts (sp?) and the bacteriaphages in it, here is one for you that goes w/ the p.wasp. Sky, did you know that Wolbachia is also a "surface protein?

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 21/10/1981

Now, look here: Why this is proof of how Nortell has more than likely given us cancer and got away w/ it! Nice, eh?

http://www.3m.com/ceramics/pdfs/health_safety.pdf

and don't miss the hot one here..............:

http://www.3m.com/Product/business-unit ... rials.html
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FYI: Margellons, the one that is really smart and apparently does not want anything to come b/t him and his "Natural computers" (and all that damn dough), well.......uhhhhhh........

He banned me from Morg Watch. I did nothing wrong. Just posted a tiny bit of the truth last weekend and I guess I must have found somethings that were "right- on the money" or else, why would he ban me?

And if he reads this I hope he responds to it b/c he sure will not email me. Hmmmmmm........................."Hey MARGELLONS, WHATCHA HIDING??????" i THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR AND HONEST out of all of the other sites! You always said, if one could prove it to you that you would have no problem with us posting the truth.

Please don't tell me your'e "One of them???????"
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You guys know or remember that Doctor that was on the CNN show this summer when Morgellons was aired? I'm referring to the Dermatologist that was an A-hole. I forgot his name. Anyway, he was saying NO, not true, that we are delusional. (which we will be)
Anyway, he is in with the whole bunch of them.......Morg Research foundation, people in that new site by Chaz, I know this for a fact! so, yeah, the people who we have been looking to for guidance, etc.,
or the same ones covering it's arse up. And I don't give a damn if ANYONE believes me or not. Don't give a damn! Just sharing some important facts w/ ya. Take it or leave it.

Jill, Thanks, would love to hear about it from you whenever you get the time.
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Postby reliefseeker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:18 am

Thank you Randy!!! I wiil try suggestions
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Postby reliefseeker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:24 am

Thanks London!! I will check that site out
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Postby Skytroll » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:40 am

london,

So, you are banned. You naughty girl! You must have hit a button there.

That Wolbachia def is a keeper, isn't it?

On one of the cited mags I found this ...a snip....

"Independent analyses indicate no or weak intragenic recombination in ftsZ, dnaA, and groEL. Intragenic recombination affects gltA, with a clear evidence of horizontal DNA transfers within and between divergent Wolbachia supergroups. Intergenic recombination was detected between all pairs of genes, suggesting either a horizontal exchange of a genome portion encompassing several genes or multiple recombination events involving smaller tracts along the genome. Overall, the observed pattern is compatible with pervasive recombination. Such results, combined with previous evidence of recombination in a surface protein, phage, and IS elements, support an unexpected chimeric origin of Wolbachia strains, with important implications for Wolbachia phylogeny and adaptation of these obligate intracellular bacteria in arthropods. "
source: http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... t/23/2/437

Now the question is......what arthropods?

And the genes themselves, just what are they?

Randy,
You knocked them out of their socks. What a strong comeback to the most obnoxious smirks. Somehow, they think that they are the ultimiate wisdom, don't they?

Good proof that what you do is very beneficial in a tight squeeze like you had.

Thanks for sharing that with us.

Gives us courage.

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Postby RANDY » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:03 am

It was so much fun.....ya gotta come armed if you run across a dummy doc who knows nothing but things he knows it all....they make me sick....used to make me cry..not they make me laugh. They all come from the same..I don't have any balls but I will try and make you look stupid to over compensate for my ignorance.

They are so easy to pick out when they enter the room. They are all of one mold.

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Postby Nadas Moksha » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:07 am

When considering these possibilities in combination with the above-mentioned flexibility of carbon pastes, it is not surprising that, in the last decade, a number and a diversity of substances used for the preparation of CMCPEs have grown in a geometric order. Among modifiers recently used, one can find single compounds,34 sophisticated chemical agents,32,37-46 special inorganic materials and matrices,47-62 or living organisms.63-66 Typical modifiers can be divided into several groups.???????????????????????????????????????????
modifications enabling complex reactions

http://web.natur.cuni.cz/analchem/lab113/cpeldy.doc
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with organic reagents (e.g.38-41,116,123) or selective

ion-exchange42-45,119-122 were found attractive. Some other

methods were based on measurements of electrocatalytical

activity.127-131

Application of both CPEs and CMCPEs permit to analyse a

wide spectrum of materials of diverse origin: from biological

tissues,33,40 via technological and commercial

products,43,104,109,128 up to various environmental samples

of solid,111 liquid41,118,129 or gaseous111 state. Using

carbon paste electrodes, one can analyse either friendly

materials like spinach40 or extremely dangerous substance -

unstabilised lead azide.124

Quick and inexpensive trace analysis of samples with

complex matrix, requiring only minimal pretreatment has been

demonstrated using carbon paste electrodes coupled with

computer-controlled stripping potentiometry.30,101 So far,

this is rather seldom application since stripping potentiometric

stations are still preferably equipped with conventional solid

electrodes and their employment in inorganic analysis is

relatively limited (mostly on determinations of metal

ions132,133). Thus, carbon paste electrodes can offer

numerous alternative methods, including specific procedures

based on synergistic non-electrolytic accumulations or

electrocatalytic effects.30,101 Herein, a number of originally

voltammetric methods can simply be adapted. And with

respect to the fact that, in analysis of real samples,

potentiometric stripping analysis is often superior to stripping

voltammetry,132,133 one can expect even further

improvement of so “novelised” methods.30,136,137 It seems

that such an approach may represent one of the future trends

in using carbon paste-based electrodes.

It can be concluded that carbon paste electrodes still held a

prominent position in modern electroanalysis of inorganic ions

and molecules. In particular, the development in the area of

CMCPEs have brought a number of new methods and

interesting procedures such as speciation analysis with

clay-modified carbon pastes for monitoring of heavy metals

and their migration in the environment.67 Practically endless

number of reagents and materials usable as modifiers in

inorganic analysis suggests that further expansion of various

types of CMCPEs can be predicted even at the beginning of a

new millennium.

B. Organic Analysis

Table II surveys the selected applications of both bare CPEs

and CMCPEs use in organic analysis covering the period of

last five years. As there are different approaches to compile a

representative table for classifying published papers, the type

of analyte was chosen as the main classifier. The other

classification could be based on already mentioned bare CPEs

or anyhow modified CPEs which could be done either by using

different modifiers of the carbon paste composition, different

mediators of the electron transfer during redox reactions

taking place in the solution, enzyme, tissue or cells

modifications or immobilization on CPEs, by using redox

polymers covering, etc.

Behind the widespread use of carbon pastes in organic

analysis several reasons can be identified. From the chemical

point of view, it is mainly the wide freedom in choosing the

composition of carbon paste allowing to tailor it for expected

analytical use enabling either to highly increase the sensitivity

of the determination or simply only to enable it or to suppress

the interferences or to establish high selectivity of the

determination. Nevertheless, also bare CPEs are still widely

used in organic analysis, mainly for direct determination of

oxidizable pharmaceuticals in different pharmaceutical

formulations or some easily oxidizable phenolics, aromatic

amino derivatives or similar compounds. The limit of

determination reached by direct analysis on bare CPEs is

usually from 1 x 10-6 to 1 x 10-7 M; when accumulation of the

analyte on the surface of the working electrode takes place,

the limit of determination drops to the concentration of 1 x

10-8 M. By choosing appropriate analyte preconcentration

techniques, the limit of determination can further be

significantly lowered. This is the case of especially guanine or

adenine oxidation based determination of DNA or RNA using

potentiometric stripping analysis with adsorptive accumulation

where the reported limits of determination are actually at the

10-16 M 174 concentration level for model samples. The same

is valid for the analyses of peptides 170, 172 which are usually

based on the oxidation of tryptophan, tyrosine or cysteine.

Such an extraordinary sensitivity is very promising for

example for the construction of disposable senzors for

monitoring.

Overcoming the interferences signals, lower

reproducibility or stability of the signal still persist.
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Postby befour » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:04 am

Randy,

This last summer I was referred to an Infectious Disease doctor by my PA (who is just the sweetest person and she was so excited that I finally got in to see him.) I went armed wth all kinds of info, case histories, protocols and Dr Wymore's letter.

In the "examining" (ha) room, he sat down and started typing into his computer and occasionally would ask me a question that I had already filled out, as a new patient. He was p@ssing me off... so I asked him if he had heard of Morgellons...and he said "NO."

I said "REALLY....??? It's been in the news almost everyday, and our local TV station has done two special segments on the subject."

He just looked at me, like I was boring him, so I said..."Do you want to know about it....because I can give you some web site addresses?"

This is what he said "I am only interested in your lesion."

I said "What lesion??? My lesions have all healed!!"

He said "Then, I cannot help you!" HE NEVER EVEN ASKED ME WHY I WAS THERE TO SEE HIM!

OK, that was bad enough, but it gets worse.....

I said "before I leave, could you please look in my ears, I have a terrible ear infection in both ears."

He looked in "one" ear and was at a loss for words.....he admitted that it was infected and had a lot of UH-UM....drainage.

He went over to the counter, as if he was going to write me a prescription...but instead, he gathered his papers and walked to the door....AND LEFT!!!.........and then had the nerve to charge me $129.00, they would not bill my ins., they made me pay cash.

I was in such a state of shock....I wish that I had taken a moment to gather my senses, but all that I wanted to do was RUN out of there!!

My family and I left that day for a week's vacation on the Texas coast. Well, I was utterly miserable the whole time and didn't feel like doing anything....I felt like that SOB stole my vacation from me, something I look forward to all year.

As soon as we got home, I went to see my PA and she was horrified when she looked in my ears. She said that my right eardrum had BURST and the other ear was almost that bad. It took a shot of Rocephrine and two different oral antibiotics to clear up the infection. She asked me why I had waited so long to have it treated.....so I told her about my ordeal with the ID dr. I thought she was going to cry and she apologized many times for referring me to him. She said that she had heard good things about him in the past.....but that she would never send anyone to him again! Then she said that .....I SHOULD NOT HAVE PAID HIM!!! I agree!


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Postby befour » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:27 am

Dear Reliefseeker,

OMG, I am so sorry that you are suffering so much!!!

Have you tried putting warm towels on your leg? The morgies hate heat, so as warm as you can stand it. And keep your leg wrapped up, like Sky said, to absorb the goo.

Have you tried the antibiotic ointment Terramycin made by Pfizer? It works great for me...it kills the morgies it touches and treats the infection they cause. You could put the terramycin on your leg and then cover your leg with saran wrap. Leave it on for about 20-30 minutes, then wash off. I mix the terramycin with a little peppermint oil, but I'm afraid the oil would burn your leg. The terramycin WILL NOT burn at all!!

I am so hoping that you will feel better soon!!

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