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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:52 pm

Hell yes that is the worm! I will prove it to you. I will have to go back and dig for it though......but I will come back and post it. It showed these two kids (2 years of age prob) with no shirt on....right there going down there tummy was the photos of the Leishmaniasis. The blue lines.

Plus Tam told me it was the flies too. but by God, that is not all. It's not just the flies.
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:07 pm

Here's a photo of the bacteriophage> don't believe what they are saying though...not at all.

http://www.relax-well.co.uk/MRSA-information-2.html
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oh dear God, a long time ago I said we need to check the helibacter Pylori
but no one seemed to be interested. OMG, i was studying it and ran across this article. But OMG, did not see what the last word in the title said until i got halfway thru the article.

This better not turn into HIV...no way, I have enough on my plate. You can't dare throw that wicked witch into this.

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/40/6/2234
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:24 pm

Here's what they found in my urine, funny, the nurse siad it was "nothing"

HUH?????

http://www.enterococcus.ouhsc.edu/lynn_revirew.asp
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Postby Cilla » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:16 pm

Hi All,

There is now apparently a new site devoted to detailed discussion of Morgellons Disease in Europe, or the European Union.

This may be of interest to you all, and specifically to those within the UK. They are apparently actively seeking more information, especially with regard to possible causation of the illness or syndrome.

I think (for now at least) we have to accept that this is what this condition is going to be termed. It is so new, and so unexplained (at present) that I think it would be potentially extremely confusing if any of you were to say things like 'we don't have Morgellons disease', after listing the probable diagnostic criteria.

It is going to be an uphill enough struggle to get your message over to busy clinicians, as you are asking them to accept some outlandishly weird phenomena, which will require them not only to think completely 'out of the box', but to enter into what may well become a polarised debate with their superiors, and other clinical colleagues.

There may also be difficulties surrounding the highly probable need to devise new ways of testing specimens within the clinical laboratory. As many of you know, the routine ways of current clinical eamination, and laboratory testing, do not yield definitive results in this condition. This (if it is all true) is like rewriting the Physician's Desk Reference from scratch.

Things are moving forward now, so that is something to be grateful for, and also to congratulate yourselves on, (each and every one of you), because you have accomplished much by your continued and continuing quest for the truth, so that you can receive much needed help and medical intervention.

Please be aware that the European Union are not pussy cats, and they take this kind of thing very seriously indeed. However, you must keep the fact in mind that English is not necessarily the first language of those in power over health related matters/disease management and control. Therefore, my advice is to stick to the term Morgellons at the moment, because linguistic quibbling over a name could well not be in your best interests.
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:25 pm

Thanks for that info Cilla. Do they have a website? and....I have no problem with calling it Morgellons. Hey, is it true that Mary L named it?

Also Cilla, we have to get Mollecular tested before any of this stuff will show up. PCR testing will test blood from the peripheral blood monouclear cells and I'm also very interested in quantitative PCR assays to quantify my viral load. Do you know where I can get this done?

I really do not care how much it cost. I must get it done.

To sky,

I do not know what this is. I just saw it on a google page and copied it for you.

Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus) - (can cause AIDS) ...
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:33 pm

skytroll,

Here's something you may be very interested in since you are researching the animals. I had it on a doc. from February when I was studying the gases/ coals/ pores. It does not interest me but I feel it would you. Plus, it's important.


Genetic manipulation of rumen bacteria: from potential to reality

K Gregg, G Allen and C Beard

Abstract

The development of techniques for manipulating the molecular genetics of bacteria led naturally to suggestions for using this technology to alter rumen function. Despite early difficulties, methods are now available to insert new genetic material into several rumen bacterial species, including Butyrivibrio fibrisolvens, Prevotella ruminicola, and Ruminococcus albus. One strain of B. fibrisolvens has been modified to detoxify a naturally occurring poison that causes major losses of livestock in Australia, Africa, and Central America. The stability of that modified organism has been demonstrated by its recolonization of the rumen and retention of its altered genotype over 5 months in vivo. Many of the persistent doubts about rumen bacterial genetic manipulation and the viability of altered organisms in a competitive environment have been shown to be capable of resolution, and interest in this area of research may be revitalized by these results. Apart from the achievement of specific metabolic improvements, the technology now available will allow extensive characterization of the molecular genetics of rumen bacteria with a precision that was not previously possible

Hey Sky, I can't believe Cliff has not figured this out yet. He and Jan are both so very smart. I mean he even wrote something on his chemtrail site back in 2004 about some big pesticide Co. in Cali getting this big contract . It has something to do with killing the mosquito larvae.


and you know what else? Southcity made a comment once about histone.
and boy, did I run with that. you ought to research it and apply it to all those bacteria you were talking about.
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Postby Cilla » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:42 pm

Hi London,

Apparently it is a very new website, but you could get it probably by googling the terms concerned.

I don't care who named it, (for the reasons I have given above), as we do not want confusion at this delicate stage.

I have no idea where you would get PCR done to confirm or deny the presence of the protozoal dna. I tell you what, you allow the European Union health authorities to take over, and this test, inter alia, will become as routine as 'u's and e's'!

They are not going to go to all that bother without also prescribing adequate treatment when a positive result is obtained.

Things are progressing, as they surely had to do, in the face of so much needless suffering and illness. After all, it is simply unfair that only some could benefit from the prescribed treatment, depending on whether their doctor was au fait with this.
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:03 pm

Cilla,

Seems to be the case there, only certain docs are treating for it. and banned in US.

Hey , thank you for encouragement to us.

Sometimes, we wander all over the place, but, a few things are starting to fit.

London,

Cliff wrote about Ligentium a long time ago, and I did some searching on that and made a copy.
will find the Contra costa coverup.

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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:45 pm

Cilla,

Big A. Thank you! I will cooperate, I will. As long as it is not American.

Wait a minute.....is Osmanovic anywhere involved? He is a debunker and I want no part of him.
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Postby Cilla » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:50 pm

Hi Sky,

Apparently Cliff's writings form a main feature of this brand new Morgellons/EU site.

So apparently does the writings of a person who provides a lot of evidence, which he calls his 'delusions' all the time (sardonically).

I believe him. He is the one who has pictures of a clear/transparent 'starfish', like a big transparent spider that can 'disappear' in water.

I have a feeling this delicate weird creature exists under the 'callus', and extends its 'tentacles' to the right or left, (in the subcutaneous tissue), particularly when the shield is under threat, (it needs oxygen).

Someone on Lymebusters said he had observed small transparent jelly like things which were spider shaped.

Cliff talks about clear coloured blobs of mucous like things, also small worms of similar, sometimes whitish appearance.

These worms, sometimes bright white, may be worms, may be fly larvae, but should respond to certain anthelmintics at the correct dose and duration of treatment.

Tam tam said something to you about researching apical growth. Read what you can about dermatophyte infection. This should respond to the correct antifungal medication, topical and systemically. Read all you can about Ginger's protocol.

Antibiotics are required too, it would seem. Garlic helps to reduce quorum sensing in bacteria.

Maybe the doctors will begin prescribing as per Dr Schwartz's protocol, as something is perhaps sometimes needed for the parasitical component, as this excellent Dr stated, when he mentioned ivermectin.

Do not give up! Things are improving!
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:50 pm

Cilla

So cliff is involved here eh? hmm...

I had the starfish/ octopus.....and I know just what they are.

It is the ameobas. The national Science Foundation has this info.

Let me know if you can't find it. I can try to look it up for you if you want.

I still want to know this: if TamTam does know the answer and he is now friends w/ Mary L., then why he does not tell her the answer.

does anyone know this answer?

I find it bewildering that they are friends now (her own verbal admission) yet he won't talk to dr. wymore?

Somebody is lying and they have money from the public. That's a delicate thing.
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:57 pm

Someone on this forum told me, and I quote:

If life deals you lemons, make lemmonaide.......

I think I get the pun.....i think whe was saying hint hint> you got aids!

Dammit, this better not turn into that.

In fact, I believe it was Sabrina that said that.
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