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Dr. Nicholson

Postby mfromcanada » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:14 pm

When Randy was asked to prove this in a private message she was unable to come up with any proof. People, do not listen to Randy on this one. I wrote to Dr. Nicholson myself and he thinks that tamtam is on the right track. Check out Dr. Nicholson's CV. Taking doxycycline does help many many people who are disabled. http://www.immed.org/

RANDY wrote:I am really busy tonight with translation work but Nicholson stated that Tams video was bogus and I have the entire letter. He goes on to say that the stuff made no logical sense....anyways..I am way too tired to fight..have not slept in 35 hours and I have tons of work to catch up on so I will not be able to defend attacks..so please wait till tomorrow to lie about me and make up who I work for and who I am. Thank yoU!
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:50 pm

RANDY wrote:Barz started another thread even though only one thread is allowed.

The entire thread is to try and ban Frank and me.
Now they already said they had another site to go to. Notice how they never went there.

Now think about it....we have not talked about them once here yet their entire thread is to talk and lie about the Tam threat to me and to get us banned.

True colors.

Now how immature is that. This is after Barz was banned for being two people and being abusive.

Funny,I find it funny.


Randy,

The fact that the scammers said they would leave and then came back here again just proves what I have said about them all along being internet spammers. They need the massive amounts of hits that this site draws to lure people in to be scammed.

If they were only a small cliqueish group who were only interested in discussing Tam Tams unsubstantiated thesis, they would be very happy at a privately moderated site.

OK, let's use scientific methodology.

First observe the behavior: They have a meltdown when challenged and create a new board that they can control. They then invite all of the lurkers here to join them at that site. They then return here a little later and begin a process of intimidation and childish requests to have you and I banned.

Now compare the observed behavior to known data sets, attempting to exclude the behavior first and notating like behaviors.

Data set 1: Is the behavior similar to a small group of people whos only intent is to discuss among themselves one primary theory that postulates that man made bacterium are creating intelligent proteins, that in turn are assembling insect parts inside of us? No it is not. The group can be be excluded from this known data set because small groups of like minded people are actually much happier at a private site and stay there.

Data set 2: Is the behavior similar to spammers who are using an emotionally charged claim to lure people to a site that collects personal information that can be sold to data mining companies. Yes it is. Spammers rely on sites that draw large numbers of visitors in order to lure them to their sites.

Once again we see behaviors that exclude the Tam Tam scammers as legitimate morgellons researchers, yet validates them as scammers.

If I were to observe your behavior Randy, the difference would be that you have told everyone right up front who you are, and that you operate an organization that offers a legitimate directory of medical doctors. That behavior would exclude you as a spammer first, but would include you in the legitimate service data set.

Once again this is scientific methodology that the spammers just can't challenge.
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Re: Dr. Nicholson

Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:03 pm

mfromcanada wrote:When Randy was asked to prove this in a private message she was unable to come up with any proof. People, do not listen to Randy on this one. I wrote to Dr. Nicholson myself and he thinks that tamtam is on the right track. Check out Dr. Nicholson's CV. Taking doxycycline does help many many people who are disabled. http://www.immed.org/

RANDY wrote:I am really busy tonight with translation work but Nicholson stated that Tams video was bogus and I have the entire letter. He goes on to say that the stuff made no logical sense....anyways..I am way too tired to fight..have not slept in 35 hours and I have tons of work to catch up on so I will not be able to defend attacks..so please wait till tomorrow to lie about me and make up who I work for and who I am. Thank yoU!


Can you respond to Randy's post that say's you are lying about Col. Nicholson's support for the Tam Scam thesis? Please post Col. Nicholson's unedited response to you. I would like to see the data please. Tam Tam has failed to provide any data thus far. Perhaps you can post the data validating your claim that Col. Nicholson supports Tam Tam.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:08 pm

Nikki and Maggie,

Thank you for pointing out that the steps which I have taken to achieve remission has not worked for you. If I understand you correctly, healthy eating and exercise has helped to reduce your symptoms but not to a significant degree.

It took me about nine months, but my symptom reduction is significant.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:29 pm

Spammers,

You really need to stick to weight reduction and miracle baldness cures to scam people. This is a legitimate disease that is beginning to draw large amounts of legitimate scientific scrutiny. Granted, For a couple of years we have been thought of as nuts by the medical and scientific communities, but we are now gaining significant credibility.

Your continued efforts to scam the morgellons community degrades the credibility of our claims to be affected with an unknown disease.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:36 pm

Randy,

I have a question that I would rather ask in the open rather than by PM.

Are any of your doctors willing to perform Dr. to Dr. teleconferences with our doctors, in order to assist our doctors in understanding this disease?

I know that my insurance company will pay for limited consultation time between physicians.
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Re: Dr. Nicholson

Postby mfromcanada » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:42 pm

Already posted.

Frank N Stein wrote:
mfromcanada wrote:When Randy was asked to prove this in a private message she was unable to come up with any proof. People, do not listen to Randy on this one. I wrote to Dr. Nicholson myself and he thinks that tamtam is on the right track. Check out Dr. Nicholson's CV. Taking doxycycline does help many many people who are disabled. http://www.immed.org/

RANDY wrote:I am really busy tonight with translation work but Nicholson stated that Tams video was bogus and I have the entire letter. He goes on to say that the stuff made no logical sense....anyways..I am way too tired to fight..have not slept in 35 hours and I have tons of work to catch up on so I will not be able to defend attacks..so please wait till tomorrow to lie about me and make up who I work for and who I am. Thank yoU!


Can you respond to Randy's post that say's you are lying about Col. Nicholson's support for the Tam Scam thesis? Please post Col. Nicholson's unedited response to you. I would like to see the data please. Tam Tam has failed to provide any data thus far. Perhaps you can post the data validating your claim that Col. Nicholson supports Tam Tam.
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Postby mfromcanada » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:56 pm

I say THE scammer is still here and has one purpose and that is to discredit tamtam. I have absolutely nothing to hide and nothing to lose. I care not about who knows anything about me. You on the other hand are deeply concerned with people finding out about you. Just exactly WHO did you sell out for?

Frank N Stein wrote:
RANDY wrote:Barz started another thread even though only one thread is allowed.

The entire thread is to try and ban Frank and me.
Now they already said they had another site to go to. Notice how they never went there.

Now think about it....we have not talked about them once here yet their entire thread is to talk and lie about the Tam threat to me and to get us banned.

True colors.

Now how immature is that. This is after Barz was banned for being two people and being abusive.

Funny,I find it funny.


Randy,

The fact that the scammers said they would leave and then came back here again just proves what I have said about them all along being internet spammers. They need the massive amounts of hits that this site draws to lure people in to be scammed.

If they were only a small cliqueish group who were only interested in discussing Tam Tams unsubstantiated thesis, they would be very happy at a privately moderated site.

OK, let's use scientific methodology.

First observe the behavior: They have a meltdown when challenged and create a new board that they can control. They then invite all of the lurkers here to join them at that site. They then return here a little later and begin a process of intimidation and childish requests to have you and I banned.

Now compare the observed behavior to known data sets, attempting to exclude the behavior first and notating like behaviors.

Data set 1: Is the behavior similar to a small group of people whos only intent is to discuss among themselves one primary theory that postulates that man made bacterium are creating intelligent proteins, that in turn are assembling insect parts inside of us? No it is not. The group can be be excluded from this known data set because small groups of like minded people are actually much happier at a private site and stay there.

Data set 2: Is the behavior similar to spammers who are using an emotionally charged claim to lure people to a site that collects personal information that can be sold to data mining companies. Yes it is. Spammers rely on sites that draw large numbers of visitors in order to lure them to their sites.

Once again we see behaviors that exclude the Tam Tam scammers as legitimate morgellons researchers, yet validates them as scammers.

If I were to observe your behavior Randy, the difference would be that you have told everyone right up front who you are, and that you operate an organization that offers a legitimate directory of medical doctors. That behavior would exclude you as a spammer first, but would include you in the legitimate service data set.

Once again this is scientific methodology that the spammers just can't challenge.
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Postby Barz » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:57 pm

Hi Randy,

just to let everyone know, I guess I was banned, but I am still allowed to post.

my spouse is also registered on this site. I don't see why that should not be allowed.

everyone here including you have been abusive. I was singled out. Too bad I am banned. I would love for this to be posted.

Randy, some of your posts are great. then you have the bi-polaritis kick in and you are back to the old ways. I am sure this can be said for everyone. This disease is frustrating.

I will no longer post about who is this and who is that. You are right it gets us nowhere. Lets just all be proactive.

Randy, the last two or maybe three days, my skin has started peeling (how ironic is that since you just mentioned it). the only thing I did was put a layer of Tiger balm on it. I don't know if this peeling is a good thing or not. I will have to see where it goes. It is peeling in an upward direction starting at my neck heading to my chin. the skin is coming off in strips. I will continue to use the TB to see if that is what is causing it to peel. The skin beneath it does seem to be soft and nice. I will not get my hopes up as I have areas on my body that are in much, much worse condition. I have some strange symptoms that I have yet to read on any forum anywhere about. This is alarming to me. If I told you all what it is it would freak you out. If a doctor saw this, they would KNOW that this is a man made disease. I will not post what this is. I want to get one of the researchers to look into it. I have had so many doors slammed on me that I don't even know which RESEARCHERS to trust. My freaky symptoms are very visible to the human eye. No scopes required. I am a true freak of nature.
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Re: Dr. Nicholson

Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:06 pm

mfromcanada wrote:Already posted.

Frank N Stein wrote:
mfromcanada wrote:When Randy was asked to prove this in a private message she was unable to come up with any proof. People, do not listen to Randy on this one. I wrote to Dr. Nicholson myself and he thinks that tamtam is on the right track. Check out Dr. Nicholson's CV. Taking doxycycline does help many many people who are disabled. http://www.immed.org/

RANDY wrote:I am really busy tonight with translation work but Nicholson stated that Tams video was bogus and I have the entire letter. He goes on to say that the stuff made no logical sense....anyways..I am way too tired to fight..have not slept in 35 hours and I have tons of work to catch up on so I will not be able to defend attacks..so please wait till tomorrow to lie about me and make up who I work for and who I am. Thank yoU!


Can you respond to Randy's post that say's you are lying about Col. Nicholson's support for the Tam Scam thesis? Please post Col. Nicholson's unedited response to you. I would like to see the data please. Tam Tam has failed to provide any data thus far. Perhaps you can post the data validating your claim that Col. Nicholson supports Tam Tam.


OK I'm only a 75 page noob. Can you direct me to it or repost please? To date Tam Tam has provided absolutely no credible data at all suppoting his thesis.

Even a testimonial by Dr. Nicholson is not supporting data, and saying that Tam Tam "may be on the right track" is not a strong testimonial, but it would at least be something if it were indeed a valid claim. I have asked for the complete unedited letter from Col. Nicholson. My request now is that you direct me to it or submit it.

I have been confronted with allegations that I am unfairly targeting Tam Tam. I am giving you once again, yet another opportunity to provide data which would lead to a conclusion that Tam Tam is something other than a common internet scammer who is preying upon sick people.

I eagerly anticipate your response MFC.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:15 pm

Barz wrote:Hi Randy,

just to let everyone know, I guess I was banned, but I am still allowed to post.

my spouse is also registered on this site. I don't see why that should not be allowed.

everyone here including you have been abusive. I was singled out. Too bad I am banned. I would love for this to be posted.

Randy, some of your posts are great. then you have the bi-polaritis kick in and you are back to the old ways. I am sure this can be said for everyone. This disease is frustrating.

I will no longer post about who is this and who is that. You are right it gets us nowhere. Lets just all be proactive.

Randy, the last two or maybe three days, my skin has started peeling (how ironic is that since you just mentioned it). the only thing I did was put a layer of Tiger balm on it. I don't know if this peeling is a good thing or not. I will have to see where it goes. It is peeling in an upward direction starting at my neck heading to my chin. the skin is coming off in strips. I will continue to use the TB to see if that is what is causing it to peel. The skin beneath it does seem to be soft and nice. I will not get my hopes up as I have areas on my body that are in much, much worse condition. I have some strange symptoms that I have yet to read on any forum anywhere about. This is alarming to me. If I told you all what it is it would freak you out. If a doctor saw this, they would KNOW that this is a man made disease. I will not post what this is. I want to get one of the researchers to look into it. I have had so many doors slammed on me that I don't even know which RESEARCHERS to trust. My freaky symptoms are very visible to the human eye. No scopes required. I am a true freak of nature.


Moderators,

I am not aware of whether or not it is permissable to bring a participant back from forum banishment, but if it is,I request that Barz be allowed to return to this discussion group.

The above post is very productive to our cause, and I feel that she may have much to contribute.

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.

Frank
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Postby nikkiS » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:26 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:Nikki and Maggie,

Thank you for pointing out that the steps which I have taken to achieve remission has not worked for you. If I understand you correctly, healthy eating and exercise has helped to reduce your symptoms but not to a significant degree.

It took me about nine months, but my symptom reduction is significant.

Frank here we go again I NEVER SAID THESE STEPS WERE NOT WORKING!!! If you would look at what I write you would see I said I used to not even be able to get out of bed or function etc. UNTIL I CHANGED MY HOME ENVIRONMENT (NO CHEMICAL CLEANERS ETC) & STARTED TAKING IMMUNE BOOSTER & VITAMINS & CONTINUED EATING HEALTHY & SUPPORT & LOVE FROM MY HUBBY & FAMILY!!
Do you remember this all started over HAIR??? Deena simply asked you a Q & I responded, because I was going through the same thing as her.
Then you come up with all this other stuff, just because I''m having problems w/ my hair doesn't mean I ever said anything else about the rest of my health or symptoms!! Nikki
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