The Fiber Disease

[Frank N Stein]

Gee, you must have the delta 32 gene! How convenient!! Remission - now there's a word...

Mm

Yea, people wouldn't need expensive products that don't work if all they had to do to to achieve remission was to stop eating processed garbage, exercise, stop smoking, stop drinking, drink good water, get some sunshine, and make every attempt to be happy and love someone.

Thats like sun to a vampire isn't it?

[Maggie Mae]

Gosh, I wouldn't know.....I love the sunshine, the woods, God's creation....I have a distiller, I take no medications unless I make them myself from nature, I get plenty of excercise, make my own bread, don't drink pop, and am very happy - my husband knows I'm an asset, I have a LARGE circle of very close friends for over 35 years, raised 2 incredibly kind and intelligent, truthful children, but alas, Babylon, I still smoke those darn cigarettes...however, my mother in law had this and did not smoke....didn't even live in the same county....so whadda' ya' gonna' do? If it weren't for cigarettes, I would have slit my wrists and ankles a long time ago....I was raised in a 1st generation Italian (mom) home and learned the old ways...I am a woodwalker...herbalist, and grow my own...heirloom seeds....Ya know what....it may help some, but not enough. Any more ideas?????
Mm

[Frank N Stein]

Gosh, I wouldn't know.....I love the sunshine, the woods, God's creation....I have a distiller, I take no medications unless I make them myself from nature, I get plenty of excercise, make my own bread, don't drink pop, and am very happy - my husband knows I'm an asset, I have a LARGE circle of very close friends for over 35 years, raised 2 incredibly kind and intelligent, truthful children, but alas, Babylon, I still smoke those darn cigarettes...however, my mother in law had this and did not smoke....didn't even live in the same county....so whadda' ya' gonna' do? If it weren't for cigarettes, I would have slit my wrists and ankles a long time ago....I was raised in a 1st generation Italian (mom) home and learned the old ways...I am a woodwalker...herbalist, and grow my own...heirloom seeds....Ya know what....it may help some, but not enough. Any more ideas?????
Mm

I appologize for being presumptuous. The only suggestion I have then is that you talk to Randy about either seeing one of the doctors on her directory, or at least getting one of them to have a phone consultation with your doctor before you see him. Doctors seem to be insulted by us when we come into their offices and Dx ourselves. However they respect one another. It's just my opinion, but I really feel like we need to build bridges with the doctors. If this works with your doctor, perhaps he/she would be willing to join the directory.

My doctor will never join the directory. He'll never be right again after I showed him that fiber moving under the microscope.

[nikkiS]

Gee, you must have the delta 32 gene! How convenient!! Remission - now there's a word...

Mm

Yea, people wouldn't need expensive products that don't work if all they had to do to to achieve remission was to stop eating processed garbage, exercise, stop smoking, stop drinking, drink good water, get some sunshine, and make every attempt to be happy and love someone.

Thats like sun to a vampire isn't it?

Frank
In all sincerity, Yes of course diet is very important (for anybody not just us suffers) My family & I do not eat processed garbage, I cook everynight ( with my good old damn gloves on) fresh veggies, hormone free meat etc. All of my kids are in dance class & soccer, my oldest also snow boards & rollerblades & so on and I have a daily exercise routine & my hubby gets his at work.
NEVER EVER been A smoker. Used to drink in moderation but since I got this for some reason I get really sick even if I just have one drink, so no drinking here. I already mentioned our water system. There is plenty of sunshine here.
Happy & Love well except for this damn crap I am honestly very happy I have 3 lovely children who I love & love me very much we are very close & my hubby who is the best he is so supportive & loving w/ the kids & I, truely always there for me when I need him bad or good & I would not trade or change much about my life except us having this crap. I love being soccer mom, backstage mom for recitals, help in the class. W
hen I first got this I couldn't even get out of bed but now that I take immune boost & vit's & home environment (no chemical cleaners etc.) I am close to my old self again.
If you were calling me a vampire well, sorry not me & I LOVE the sun, the beach/lake or just a nice sunny day to enjoy at the park (with my kids0 but I don't think sun is a cure.
Nikki

[Maggie Mae]

Thanks for the advice, but I think after almost 13 years, the establishment will get none of the little money I have. I work very very hard, and what little I have, I ain't giving to them. I would rather paper my undercarriage with it....had it not been for their quick dop diagnosis, I might have enjoyed 7 very important years of my children's lives that I missed out on...Nope, not a damn ruble will they get, Good Lord willing!
Mm

[Maggie Mae]

adendum: in fact, the medical profession may wind up paying me...but of course they could not begin to make restitution for their blahtant malpractice.....and what it has cost us all.
Mm

[RANDY]

This disease goes in stages.

Stage one is the most frightening, it usually comes with great fatique, and these little black dots coming out of your body with lesions all over your face causing great stress and fear which only then adds to your stress and you become a welcome target for stage two.

You become obsessive compulsive searching the internet after you get even more stressed out by going to docs that you THOUGHT actually cared about humanity to find out not only do they not care about you but theyare the enemy.

And if you are really lucky all those people that you thought cared about you all of a sudden are pissed off cuz you are not there for them anymore plus now they think you have lost your mind.

Stage two: You figure since you are out of cash, are too tired to work, feel like a leper and have no one to help you that you may was well take your life except that your kids and cats and dogs need you.

You are depressed because either your hair is falling out or you have to wear long sleeves in 100 degree heat with 90 % humidity which is why you think you can't remember your name or the telephone number to your best friends cell phone or why you can't string a simple freaking thought from start to finish without feeling like you have Alzheimers.

So you search the internet becuase this can not be happening to you ..unless you are in a twlilight zone ro maybe you have died and this is hell?

Stage three is that you decide to get tough and figure out your own regime of antibiotic,fungals and parasitics to knock whatever the hell this is out of you and then you think maybe this is a good thing since I have not gotten sick in such a long time..maybe aliens gave this to me and I will be saved when the comet hits the Earth in 2012..according to the Mayan calender.

And you just cry and then get mad and then get moving or you start drinking, feeling sorry for yourself and start doing drugs breaking down your immune system and worrying about everything.

You can angry and mad at the world and hate everyone and you go down hill fast

OR

You figure you have tried everything so you are going to get on with your life realizing you have an autoimmune disease not yet discovered and go start to change your eating habits and get rid of ALL bad habits that break down your immune system and you get out an exercise and become a positive person of light and love and you have faith that G-d would not do anything to you that you can not handle and you start to help yourself and others even if they decide to MASH YOUR BRAINS OUT EVERY TIME YOU DO.

Stage 4 is that you start to heal mentally and it starts to show physically and before you know it your lesions are healed and you feel pretty darn good most of the time.

This takes about 5 years. Three to five. The second wave of this disease seems to take 5 years in order to get close to remission.

Now this is the truth. If it is not your truth then you are either smoking, doing drugs or drinking or eating unhealthy foods or being negative and full of hate most of the time.

Honest...This is my second remission I feel I am going into. The relapse happened when I was under great stress. This hides in your body but you can live a full life without lesions, fatigue, brain fog and other symptoms if you do the right things.

[RANDY]

Barz started another thread even though only one thread is allowed.

The entire thread is to try and ban Frank and me.
Now they already said they had another site to go to. Notice how they never went there.

Now think about it....we have not talked about them once here yet their entire thread is to talk and lie about the Tam threat to me and to get us banned.

True colors.

Now how immature is that. This is after Barz was banned for being two people and being abusive.

Funny,I find it funny.

[tamtam]

"Of everything which is under the sun the fortune and law are equal"

Michel De Montaigne

Nobody in Western civilization had ever tried to do what Montaigne set out to do. He moves from thought to thought, often digressing from an idea only to return, having caught up with it elsewhere. In these essays, Montaigne lays out his plan for how a man might wisely live and die.


PAGE 874 (about illness and doctors)

PAGE 314 (On the uncertainty of our judgement)

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0 ... 3-PA874,M1

[Cyn-Cyano]

Some things we do know from Cliff Mickelson whose work I respect, way back on page 5...before the road kill of the past 200 pages.

CliffMickelson


Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:07 pm
Post subject: Morgellons...AKA The Skin Fiber Disease...Terra Incognita! Reply with quote
Greetings:

I read with a great deal of interest the exchange that occurred here on the board concerning what is known and what is not known about Morgellons, aka the Skin Fiber Disease.

There is a great deal of confusion surrounding this emergent plague.

This is quite understandable.

The affliction exhibits proclivities and charactoristics unlike any known prior to this time.

It is highly resistant to most forms of accepted treatment.

It can collectively survive extended applications of all petrol based products, including such poisons as MEK and acetone.

Sulpher has some effect but is not definitive.

Placed in 71% alchohol does not kill it, however, 90% solution vexes it to no end.

It may be coded to "learn" from chemical attacks and to adapt.

It is for this reason that I have described it in past articles as being
"Borg-like."

The parasite does not so much "consume" its host as it "replaces" its host.

It "layers" itself into the victim and though easily located in higher concentrations, it is found throughout the entire skin surface.

Vaseline or Vicks Vapo Rub can cause it to briefly partially emerge from pores and folicles.

Initially, (as well as all through its tenure) It locates itself first and formost in the hair follicles of its victims. It can often be seen at first, growing side by side with the original occupant of the location. However, it soon kills its partner and then takes its place as sole occupant.

The creature is a master of disguise. It takes a practiced eye to detect it in this stage.


I have documented 5 stages or metamorphic levels of the organisim.

It is possible that there exists at least two other primary stages.

As it gains an established foothold it begins to multiply profusely.

Higher concentrations of the creature in its nematomorphic "worm-like" stage produce skin lesions and a hard "callus-like" protective shield that many victims as well as researchers believe is skin. This is partially wrong and partially correct. It is not "callus" in the classic sense, but is a highly entwined form of the stage 4 creature itself mixed with a secretion of amazing tenacity, durability, and flexibility. It is anchored into the skin of the host with a series of hooklike appendages that extend downward from the underside of the "callus" at a slightly curved angle.

It can be removed, but only with the greatest pertenacity and a very liberal dosing of 90% rubbing alcohol. The entire callus is rarely if ever successfully removed, but what is removed is portions of it that usually contain a nematomorph embedded in secretion. Since the callus consists of hundreds, (if not thousands) of such organisims, the best one may hope for is a rear guard defensive effect.

The source of the creature is a mystery, however it is known to be vectored in at least a half a dozen ways. One of the most controversial yet easily provable methods being used to vector this plague is cotton.

The nematomorph closely resembles a single strand of cotton thread.

The naked eye cannot tell the difference. However a practiced eye can detect the presence of the parasite in the cotton matrix.

The most common location I have documented as a vector for the parasite is the everyday cotton swab. It is ubiquitous in this environment. It is also found in other cotton products as well and it is quite likely that cotton has been serving as the main source of infection in recent years.

I have written a great deal on this connection and will not go into it at this point due to time limitations. For those who find such Orwellian nightmares to be difficult, I must say that intially, I too was equally as pole-axed.

I urge you to investigate my statements for yourself. Draw your own conclusions based on your own observations. Don't rely on me or anyone else to create your reality on this point. I am confident that the facts will speak for themselves.

There is much more I should like to describe concerning this unnatural creature but I have other obligations presently. I hope to be able to return shortly and further describe the rather unnerving discoveries that I have made in the last two years concerning this unique monster.

Regards:

-CliffMickelson

[tamtam]

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[reliefseeker]

Randy wrote:

He is the only support I have for my program,openly on this site....all of you do not support me..be real.

The Morgellons guy and I hate one another and I don't post there. He is a cat breeder/cat show judge who knows computers but not to the level of this guy

My program will show that we have a disease. Why would he support that..be real..THINK MAN.....THINK!

If anything he would be supporting you not me..in fact maybe you are that guy or maybe Relief Seeker is. They try to destroy every little bit I state about my program. In fact Relief Seeker must be him.

Frank is not.
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RANDY,[/b]

You are the epitome of 'divide and conquer', but yet you want to lead us...where?? to hell? You accused everyone of posting disinformation but this is also a scientific site. NOW, what do you have ...constant bickering? Disinformation is far better than what is going on now. It is you and Frank n Stein against everyone on this site. You talk about cutting and pasting, that's what you and Frank do with everybody's response whether it is in reference to you or not. I was not going to be a party to you and Frank childish and immature games. You two seem dead set in running everybody off.
Yes, I am Reliefseeker, not a 'he'...I am a 'she', and I am sitting here reading this madness and YOU bring up my name! NO, you blatantly lied on me. You have some very good ideas about finding doctors in each state, and setting up the site for people who do not have money or insurance. BUT you have lost you credibility, when you open your mouth you become a vile creature. UNITE, stop DIVIDING US, can you not see what you are doing. If you indeed want to be a leader, STOP insulting us...and leave my name out the BS...I am fighting to keep my legs here...I have no time for your silliness...Hello All...I wish you all well...and
Frank, I will NOT be trading words with you...hmmm, you really 'get off" on that, don't you?

Reliefseeker