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Postby msc » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:50 pm

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Karvita get in tough with Dr. Staninger and let them know what you know.
we know it was a man made bacteria and the human mitochondria is involved they need to know and the game needs to be stopped. every member of my friends family is very sick with diesease effecting their liver, lymph nodes, pancreas and seizures unidentiffied. there are too many sick people out there. some has to come forward. do you know anything about diagnosis codes that ref infestation process and allergic reaction to biological and medicnal substance that were put on a disabilty
form and how to put them together to know what the phyisicans was trying to state as he was trying to help but didn't want to get caught betraying who was responsible. where as laymans can we go to get this vital information to prove this now. it is vital karvita and tam that you help us. please if you both know something state it come out and just state it. you can't imagine watching someone you care about suffer to the degree that you can hear the gurggling in their throats as they are being suffocated by this thing. that you touch them and can feel their skin being turned to a horrible soft material. how does this infection turn skin soft one minute and than harden the next minute? can you please please help all of us now. think of the little children involved and how it will degenerate their bones, liver, kidneys and pancreas etc. there is a little girl very sick we as people who are infected and spread to others are helpless as no one will listen to us. we need the proof now. two young women suffer heatache losing their babies in the eight week of pregnancies and this was devastating to them and will they be able to have other children and will they be normal or abnormal? if you have knowledge you have an obligation to help all of us. please
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Postby msc » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:17 pm

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can any and all of you meet in nj on wednesday of this week. could you all meet together with us and go the media? do any of you have media connections. this is imerging from my friend where the naked eye can see it. we know how photos need to be taken and putting the negatives on a film projector will prove it is mutating larger than macro. the cdc knows that cat scans and xrays show parasites and the way they travel,
but this is not a normal parasite, it is man made that is why the nuetrophil is effected and not the easophil. the people responsible for this infectious disease knew that and how to make it not effect the easophil and why physicians are stating dop instead of parasite. they look for the easophil count on parasites, this is not being effecting the neutrophil count is and that is elevated when silica and metals are involved. they knew what they were doing in this invention of this agent as they like to call it in their patents. narvita what do you know about the organism that is in styrene?
what type of microorganism is carried in this chemical that is cauing health issues in Italy, they say it comes from dry cleaners, think about how much plastic is used in a dry cleaners and mix those chemical vapors with the fumes of the cleaning agents. what do you know if you take every synthethic retinoid and cannibinoid and put it in a cream, what does it create? when need hard core proof, we are not physicians and biologists we are people suffering you work in a teaching univ you state that. stop the suffering and pain please, are they using microbeads to carry this through the hair follicles and aren't they using nano magnets to make these ligands and bands connect themselves? give us hard core prove please any one who wants to meet and go to the media on wednesday in NJ leave a blog and a way to contact you. you want it resolved lets get it resolved. contact ny times see if you can get someone to meet with us, get the reporters who are writing on morgellons and dr staninger's reports.
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Postby tamtam » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:55 pm

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Postby London » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:50 pm

TamTam

JOSS WHEDON!!!!!!! wOW, I MUST HAVE STRUCK A CORD, WHY ELSE WOULD YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT JOSS? i LIKE YOUR SHOW....

TAKE THIS OR LEAVE IT....THAT WAS NOT ME- I HAVE NO DEGREE IN BIOLOGY AND THAT TEACHER WAS FROM FLORIDA.

WANT ME TO PASTE A RECENT PHOTO OF YOU COMING OUT OF ONE OF YOUR INTENSE GAMING EPISODES.....LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE IN A BIG ROOM W/ MANY TABLES AND CHAIRS. YOU HAVE A BUDDY YOU'RE POSING WITH AND YOU GUYS LOOK WIPED OUT. TOO MUCH FUN IN CYBERSPACE. I MEAN C'MON TAM TAM, YOU KNEW WHEN YOU TOOK THIS GHOST WRITING SCRIPT, THERE WAS ALWAYS THE CHANCE YOU WOULD EVENTUALY BE FOUND OUT, EH?

BESIDES, YOU TAUGHT ME WELL. AT LEAST YOU CAN BE PROUD OF THAT.

HEY JOSS, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT THE SKIN WEAVE?

YOU KNOW, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON IN US. AND YOU HAD THE AUDACITY TO DO THIS JOSS?

SORRY, I BUSTED YOU , I AM. I WAS SO LET DOWN, B/C I THOUGHT YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT US. I SWEAR I DID. DON';T YOU HAVE ANY FEELINGS OR ANY IDEA WHAT IT IS LIKE TO HAVE THIS?

I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD STOOP SO LOW. OH, I KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. THERE ARE A FEW MORE SICKOS ALONG W/YOU.

HEY, TELL ME, WHO IS RIVER TAM SUPPOSED TO BE? RIDGEWALKER PERHAPS?

AND TAM TAM, HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF GENETIC ART, GENETIC PARASITES, PARASITIC MEDIA? ARTIFICIAL LIFE? DIGITAL ORGANISMS?

HOW ABOUT PARASITIC COMPUTING??? YA KNOW WHEN THE CHECKSUM IS RUNNING OVER A TCP CONNECTION B/T MULTIPLE NODES OR MACHINES ON THE INTERNET......HUH? YOU KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT IS HOW THIS GOT INTO US.

BUT ONE THING I DID LIKE......YOU TAUGHT ME THAT CO. IN FT WORTH AND ALSO IN WEST TX, NOW OWNED BY RATHEON!!! WHAT DID I FIND FROM YOU? IT WAS KELVAR I BELIEVE.....HOME OF THE SPARTAN ENGINEERING......GOOD FIND, GOOD HINTS.....THANKS FOR THAT ONE.

HEY, WHO ARE THE DUMMIES PAYING YOU GUYS. JUST CURIOUS.
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TO ALL, HERE IS ANOTHER I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO VIEW FROM WHO ELSE? BINGO, THE NSF....

316. Novel Continuous Production Method for Rugged GRIN Plastic Optical Fiber-
Nanoptics, Inc., 3014 NE 21st Way, Gainesville, FL 32609;
tel: 904-378-6620; fax: 904-378-0273; e-mail: nanowalker@aol.com
Principal Investigator: James K. Walker
President: James K. Walker
Research Institution: University of Florida, Gainesville, FL
NSF Grant No. 9632052; Amount: $100,000
WOW, WE ARE ONLY WORTH 100,000 COLLECTIVELY?? SAD ORGANIZATION, SAD....

This project demonstrates the feasibility of a continuous process of producing rugged, low moisture content, high bandwidth, gradient index plastic optical fiber. This type of fiber is expected to have great utility in high-speed local area networks. Existing Japanese production methods result in bandwidths which are three to ten times less than theoretically possible, and the bandwidth of the fiber is not stable and reproducible. The production rate is intrinsically limited by the batch nature of the process and/or multistep procedure. In the U.S., the High-Speed Plastic Network (HSPN) consortium was formed in 1994, and is supported by a $5M ARPA grant. A member of that team has licensed one of the Japanese batch technologies to fabricate the above type of fiber. The present project is to develop a novel, low cost, continuous production process for the fiber. The fiber will have a stable bandwidth of >2 GHz.km, be stable from -40oC to +150oC, have low moisture uptake, attenuation of less than 150 dB/kilometer and be stable to radiation exposure up to 103 Rad.
The potential commercial applications as described by the awardee: Local area networks have inadequate bandwidth for the anticipated needs in the coming years. Gradient index plastic optical fiber will be the most cost effective solution with adequate bandwidth. At present, there is no satisfactory production process for a rugged version of this fiber. The market is anticipated to grow to at least one billion meters per year.

http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1997/nsf97151/sttr.htm
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Postby London » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:02 pm

RELIEF SEEKER!!!!!!!!!! DAMN, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK. YOU WERE MISSED TREMENDOUSLY. YOU WERE ALWAYS IN MY THOUGHTS......

HANG IN THERE!!
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I'm sorry, but I meant to leave this earlier with the above post (2nd half of the above post):

It's just info incase anyone is curious on the Fibr Channel.

FC

An abbreviation for Fibre Channel. The Fibre Channel Standard (FCS) [1] defines a high-speed data transfer interface that can be used to connect together workstations, mainframes, supercomputers, storage devices and displays. The standard addresses the need for very fast transfers of large volumes of information and could relieve system manufacturers from the burden of supporting the variety of channels and networks currently in place, as it provides one standard for networking, storage and data transfer. FC ports can be connected as point-to-point links, in a loop or to a switch. The ports in a point-to-point connection are called N_Ports; if they can work in a loop they are called NL_Ports. An FC switch, or a network of switches, is called a fabric. The ports of it are called F_Ports. Both optical and electrical media are supported, working from 133 Megabits/sec up to 1062 Megabits/sec, while distances up to 10 km are possible. Information can flow between two ports in both directions simultaneously. Exchange is the name of the mechanism for coordinating the exchange of information between two N_Ports. The port starting the Exchange is called the Originator, the port that answers is called the Responder. The data is sent in frames that are maximum 2148 bytes long. Frames have a header and a checksum. A set of related frames for one operation is called a Sequence. For flow control the Fibre Channel standard uses a look-ahead, sliding-window scheme that also provides a guaranteed delivery capability. FC has the ability to carry multiple existing protocols including IP and SCSI
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Postby al » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:31 pm

This may or may not be relevant.
I enclosed it for your perusal
regards Al
http://www.mad-cow.org/fatal_fibrils.html
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Postby al » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:46 am

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Fiber Disease/ Quorum Sensing/ Stray C3 target

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: Fiber Disease/ Quorum Sensing/ Stray C3 target

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Fibers are stray target of experimental biology.
In particular experimental micro biology class 3 (C3)

That cellulose type fibers move on its own is because it are micro organisms that go dormant (pseudo apoptotic) and are more or less static because of low metabolism.

During formation of fibers show nerve cell type behavior.

Nerve cell type behavior they show in particular when they unite as a fiber most resembling a shaft that is related to the mold of a modified cyanobacterium.

This dominant type gene expression in the form of a semi autonomous and sensing fiber is in fact a break away group cell.
A variant form.

Lepidoptera is one of its dominant gene in-put

Its overall character is inbetween plant(cellulose) and insect (chitin)cell.

Single cell micro organisms with an acquired property called quorum sensing will make the organisms act multi cellular.

Quorum sensing is a stem cell like property.
Quorum sensing micro organisms unite hence differentiate during formation of a multi cellular organism.

Hence multi lineage differentiation synonymous with stem cell.
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Fast dividing tissue forms a base(culture medium) for this organism.
This type target can only be kept alive and cultured in test animal.
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Fibers show inbetween behavior like "plant cell that think they are insect cell"

The agent its intermediate stage resembles a protoplasm.
A transparent agar like cloud with basic properties preserved.

All elements are quorum sensing
All elements differentiate

check: chitin / cellulose wound dressing

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject:

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That is not the first time you post on this subject. First your english is not extremly clear, so making correct sentences would be a god point. I guess you are not a native english speaker, are you?

But before that do you have any facts to substantiate your claims? Otherwise I am going to think that your posts are just random assembling of techno babble....

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject:

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The fiber disease constitutes an infection with a genetically modified
quorum sensing stem cell related micro organism.

Basically the organism represents a cyano bacterium that knows a stage as a giant cell and as a mold.

Diversification resulting in specialized organisms (cell)
takes place by shaft, giant cell and by fission of cocci resembling micro organisms.

Cocci will chain into diploid, triploid even will form a long chain.

Hence a coccidiod cyano bacterium like micro organism that lives on the skin and in wounds is the mayor responsible agent.
Although; main source is not the skin

No association is made by micro biologist or histopathologist in connection to this pathogen.


Nota bene,

Its intermediate stage resembles a (quorum sensing) transparant gel (agar) that actually constitutes a protoplasm.

This makes detection of the agent in biopsy impossible during standard clinical research.

Single cell micro organisms function on a multi cellular level,
communication between species of the same kind as well as different kind is possible.

The micro organism has been genetically fused with a mayor parasitic protozoa, a butterfly(lepidoptera) and a mammal specie.

Multi lineage differentiation is fact.

Fibers constitute protein most resembling cellulose.
Specks are chitin like polymers.

Fibers represent cell that are most connected to sensing parts of its insect gene in-put; like antennea, tongue, feet and wing.

The colors of the fibers are connected to the colored wing pattern of lepidoptera. Actually fibers constitute variants with a semi parasitic nature.

Keratin erosion between human hair and this semi parasitic fiber is evident.

Association with the skin follicle hence stem cell is rational.
The breeding ground for the organism in skin is almost exclusively the follicle(stem cell per definition)

The phenomenon is directly linked to proteome and genome research and concerns commensal bacteria without the status of known pathogen.
Some members of the tree are known as nosocomial (like pseudomonas)

Infection resembles most protothecosis.

Amphotericine B and amikacine will be the most logic choice for therapy but no protocol exist for this type condition.

Sulfa Methoxazole/ Tri and Tetracycline and derivatives are suppressive but not curative. Also azoles like itraconazole, econazole, micanozole work static.

Infection may directly or indirectly relate to IBS, fibromyalgia, amyloidosis, chronic fatigue syndrome, therapy resistant skin lesions, onycholysis, neurogenic bladder and chorioretinitis.


Sincerely,

tamtam

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: morgellons fiber disease

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TamTam you seem very knowledgable. what is your background and the basis of your findings. I am a surgeon and my wife has had severe lesions for nine months. I haven't been able to make any diagnostic or therapeutic headway to date. JH

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

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Hello Jed,

How fine,

If You would be so kind to send a privet message than I will inform you as much as I can.

To: quorumsensing@hotmail.com

Sincerely,

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:27 am Post subject:

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To all of you inflicted out there, my bro, who has been struggling for two months with this, said that today, he had great success with a diatomaceous earth mud pack. It draws the the little buggas out. He had to use several applications as the first applications literally turned into a wriggling mess of parasites. He also found a physician in Santa Fe that is specializing in this phenomenom and is dedicated to beating it.

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject:

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject:

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Fibers are stray target of experimental biology.
In particular experimental micro biology class 3 (C3)

That cellulose type fibers move on its own is because it are micro organisms that go dormant (pseudo apoptotic) and are more or less static because of low metabolism.

This apoptotic pathway (e.g protozoa to protein ) can partially be related to protein take up in ruminants except that the involved set micro organisms are quorum sensing and are not apoptotic but dormant.

During formation fibers show nerve cell type behavior.

Nerve cell type behavior they show in particular when they unite as a fiber most resembling a shaft that is related to the mold of a modified cyanobacterium.

Compare: shaft / sensillae

This dominant type gene expression in the form of a semi autonomous and sensing fiber is in fact a break away group cell.
A variant form (a re- combination)

Lepidoptera is one dominant gene in-put

Its overall character is in-between plant(cellulose) and insect (chitin)cell.

Single cell micro organisms with an acquired property called quorum sensing will make morphologically diverse micro organisms act multi cellular (act as one)

Quorum sensing is in fact a stem cell like property.
Quorum sensing micro organisms unite hence differentiate during formation of a multi cellular organism.

Hence multi lineage differentiation synonymous with stem cell related.
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Fast dividing tissue forms a base(culture medium) for this organism.
This type target can only be kept alive and cultured in test animal.
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Fibers show in-between behavior like:
"plant cell that think they are insect cell"

The agent its intermediate stage resembles a protoplasm.
A transparent agar like cloud with basic properties preserved.

All elements are quorum sensing
All elements differentiate

check: chitin / cellulose wound dressing



No association is made by micro biologist or histopathologist in connection to this occult acting pathogen.


Nota bene,

Its intermediate stage resembles a (quorum sensing) transparent gel (agar) that actually constitutes a protoplasm and indeed this protoplasm may be loaded with plasmids
(vector in the form of virus or DNA mimicking protein)
This feat may indicate DNA transfer.

keywords: oncology/ cytokine/ proteome

This makes detection of the agent in biopsy impossible during standard clinical research.

Single cell micro organisms function on a multi cellular level,
communication between species of the same kind as well as different kind is possible.

The micro organism has been genetically fused with a mayor parasitic protozoa, a butterfly(lepidoptera)and a mammal and/or bird like specie.
More insect technology is present.

Multi lineage differentiation is fact.

Fibers constitute protein most resembling cellulose.
Specks are chitin like polymers.

keywords: sensillae/ biosensor/ micro flight/
cellulose cyano macromolecule

Fibers represent cell that are most connected to sensing parts of its insect gene in-put

keywords: insect cuticle/ sensillae/ artificial skin

Colors of the fibers relate to the colored wing pattern of lepidoptera.
Actually fibers constitute variants with a semi parasitic nature.
If they have a double function (as color tag) is not clear.

Keratin erosion between human hair and this semi parasitic fiber is evident. Association with the skin follicle hence stem cell is rational.
The breeding ground for the organism in skin is almost exclusively the follicle(stem cell per definition) and stem cell related tissue.

keyword: stem cell/ hair follicle

The phenomenon is directly linked to proteome and genome research and concerns commensal bacteria without the status of known pathogen.

Coccoid/ coccidioid/ prototheca
Some members of the tree are known as nosocomial (like pseudomonas)
other expression is associated with variant glyco protein.
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Infection resembles most protothecosis.

Amphotericine B and amikacine will be the most logic choice for therapy but no protocol exist for this type condition.

Sulfa Methoxazole/ Tri and Tetracycline and derivatives are suppressive but not curative.

Also azoles like itraconazole, econazole, micanozole work static.

Infection may directly or indirectly relate to IBS, fibromyalgia, scleroderma, amyloidosis, chronic fatigue syndrome, therapy resistant skin lesions, onycholysis, neurogenic bladder and (chorio)retinitis.

Alternative -only- topical treatment:
essential oil (natural insecticide)
diluted copper sulfate (algaecide)

Alternative oral therapy:
garlic
(quorum sensing disturbing property/ Swiss research)


Sincerely,

tamtam

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: Giving thanks

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Thankyou tamtam!

We hear you and I admire you for the hard work you have had to do to begin to understand this. God Bless.

Peace,
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:

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WHAT ARE THE AMINO ACID SEQUENCES???

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject:

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tamtam advises everybody to have a look at the video that has been made available by the courtesy of first officer in the field "southcity"
His gallery of lesions is pretty consistent.

A few pages back you can click to see the video:


http://www.crossinglines.net/The%20caus ... efault.htm

copy the video!

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:39 am Post subject: Fiber Disease and Treatment - by G. Schwartz MD

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Dear TamTam and others,

First, I want to respond to a few things on the forum and initially would like to voice my objection to the secrecy. I honestly believe that people have nothing to fear. By hiding behind false names one is forced to question the veracity and integrity. Like it or not, people will frequently base their opinion on the persons track record and scientific background. Medical science tends to exist in a framework of free interaction with secrecy being viewed as a cover of something less than pleasant.

Now having voiced my peeve, I wanted to go on to a critical area, and that is treatment. Regardless of theory, everyone I know with this horrid disease is searching for cure or approaches which will improve the disabling and frustrating disease.

In this context, we often learn a great deal by seeing what is effective treatment and from that gain a better idea, albeit incomplete, of what we are treating.

We have had remarkable and consistent success based on a protocol which is freely available. Essentially we treat the bacterial infection with Septra and Avelox (moxifloxacan). We have observed that the lesions heal rapidly in most cases. However, there clearly is a parasitic component present. Based on numerous clinical observations we initiated treatment with Biltricide (praziquantel) on a weekly basis with intermittent doses of Stromectol (ivermectin).

For the insect infestations, we have been using Diatomaceous Earth as a pack. In addition we are very cautious in treatment of the eyes because we have seen cases of blindness. Thus we use Ophthalmic drops and in severe and selected cases we also use Diflucan.

We have had remarkable success with every patient. Our team has also cultured the bacteria Stenotrophomonas Maltophilia. It is certainly possible that the organism has been genetically modified, however, it almost always responds to the antibiotic combination.

We are identifying the worm that is involved but are yet to have a definitive diagnosis. But this has not stopped us from treating the condition with the best available knowledge we have.

We welcome scientific discourse and dislike shadowy secrecy.

Our desire is to work together to gain as much knowledge as possible to eradicate the disease.

I am convinced there is absolutely nothing to fear except for idiosyncratic paranoid ideation.

So basically guys, I'm out in the open. Let's all work together to stop the tremendous suffering.

Sincerely,
George R. Schwartz, MD

(secretary to Dr. Schwartz -- Grace Risi cell # 609-670-2166)

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: Let the truth be known

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My Dear Dr. Schwartz,


Has anything changed from this protocol?
Is this what I advise my Doctor to do?
We are indeed mired in a conspirartorial mindset.
I thank you for your words indeed.
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Postby London » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:08 am

Just wanted to share this....at least they are kind of honest! So maybe we should all get tested for these toxins? Guess we should get our hair tested, dunno for sure.....

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 073746.htm
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Postby al » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:10 am

sorry for the spam factor, but i figured as we are going in circles; a refresher course with a few known knowns, might be in order.
I do hope this is relevant, I inadvertantly pasted the whole page, sorry for the "spam" factor, but the inherent ideas, remain, salient and worthwhile.
Lets forget the madness, it is a symptom of the disease, and the sufferer needs to be mindful, exersizing insight and restraint, and if that fails, what is wrong with anti-pyschotic medications to allow some salient lucidity?
Dr Scwartz empahasises this quiet strongly, and while it is important to keep an open mind, one must avoid getting caught up in the"matrix" of conspiracies.
If they exist, time truth and justice will prevail.
What is needed is a treatment protocol, and recognition of transmission, vectors, de-contamination of home and other practical measures.
Mental health is a silent victim of this disease, I know as I can range from several different perspectives.
It makes one wish to lash out, to be heard, sometimes the loudest voice is the silence of truth.
This situation needs critical analysis, and tolerance of each others beliefs.
So, forgive my levity in previous pages, sometimes humour is needed to lift the spirit.
Can a mission statement be formed, as to clarify what we know, from that which may be an erroneous belief, or an evergrowing pile of unintelligable scientific words.
If Dr Scwartz protocol works it needs to be administered, surely.
Can we all put our fears aside and allow a fruitful discourse for treatment, so we can close this sorry chapter.
HOW LONG IS THE SPIROCHETE/FIBER VIABLE OUTSIDE THE BODY?
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Postby London » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:02 am

Al and MSC,

Why do you think they are doing this to us....? Metabrains? robotics? why could they not ask for volunteers?

I understand the sorry arse gov't does testing on humans which is sick....but gd they are breaking the law when they cut car wires, come into ourt homes and put poisions out, piss in our microwaves or get there pet rats to do it, also against the law is tampering with the control gadgets on the refridgerater, the HVAC system and also putting dangerous, nasty things into our personal products....that is what is against the law.
I just wanted you guys opinion? Sky, you around? what do you think?
Also, MSC I still have not listened to that dr strainger(sp?) yet. But I will. When I googled her name it said she got some Manning award from the ARMY and Major RED Flags went up.....the ARMY is big-time involved with this fiber shite. Oh well, and I guess I don't want to be fed anymore lies after this past year....she writes on the Rense show someone said.....that is a gd joke! Sorry, not being rude on purpose but it is....just another one of the lead you on take your money, heart and time as well.

I'm glad you are getting good info from her.

Hey, Maggie, you're the reason I came to write too......you stated they were stalling....Can you put more info out on that comment?

i.e., for what? a cure, a law to be passed, a drug to be developed, a rocket ship door panal to be fitted, or a new M5 fiber to the moon to be tethered up???? Tell me if you can do so....appreciate it.

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look at this list, this is what i think they are after....

The Desire to Be Wired

Head Start

Mind Readings

Plugging Into the Brain

Restoring Lost Connections

The Neurochip

Caltech scientists devise first neurochip

The Nerve Chip: technology development for a chronic neural interface

Controlling Computers With Neural Signals

Neural Signals Enables Paralyzed Patients to Control Computers

Computer uses cat's brain to see

INTER: Intelligent Neural Interface

Direct Brain Interface Project

High Density Cortical Electrode Arrays

Neural Recording Devices

FreeHand System Implants

The Brain Communicator

Sensory Augmentation

Cochlear Bionic Ear

Neural Prosthesis Program at the NIH

Neuroprosthesis Related Research Projects

Neuroprosthesis Research Organization

Rehabilitation Engineering Laboratories

Cyberpunks Cyberware
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Postby msc » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:11 am

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to dr.schwartz secretary, will the physician do the tests that a patient aked to have done, or will he be like the rest and deny the patient tests that a patient needs to prove that toxins chemicals and drugs were put in a product she used and was never given warning of the serious adverse effects and has suffered for many years and medical records show all side effects she has complained about on listed on various attorney websites of accutane isotretinoin synethinic retinoids and samples show the crystal structures and the rubbery strips or magnetic bands. her vision is blurred and her eyes lids are swollen and yellow discharged around her eyes you can see how this agent connects itself. what do you do for the hair, and retinoids ligands are in the hair and scalp. a physicians stated worms are they the micelles that are produced by this.
does this parasite travel through the hair follicles? we are willing to do anything to get better, as no medication for bacteria nor anything in seven years has been done. there were no skin problems until using renova and it is vital that this is recalled many of us have found that using retinoid products caused their skin problems and hair problems that instead of getting they are getting worse, is this about synthetic silk worms as an exterminator stated and polymerization, after it connects a
plug of sometype goes into the center and it spins, it is not totally an organism it is electronical there is no doubt about that, and he specialized in gases and photos show the gases or is it his aquaeous solution that these man made agents need to live but even when they leave the skin they secrete a whitish/blue gas with a transluscent organism in it. what does suspended mean, as it can hang in mid air and connect themselves it is airborne and that means it is infectious to others isn't and that is the most important factor that must be stated. there are children involved and school systems involved as one school was closed for fungus and another for a bacteria virus. if you know what this is will you be brave enough to expose it, as others in your profession do everything to cover up it. they all knew what tests could be done and state don't want to be involved in a lawsuit, when no one mentioned lawsuit does that not make them paranoid, is it wrong for a patient to want to know if a product did this do them aren't they entitled to have their scars fixed and their health given back to them, what is the acid powder that covers these strips that roll up into cone and rod and sphere shapes as the patent of this product states he used? the man used chemicals that are used in pesticides that are used in mind altering drugs and in a wrinkle cream how can a retinoid be used for all three things and what happens when he combines all of these toxic retinoids in one product, how can a person be cured by you when they have been infected for seven years and everyone who has been in contact with her? that is where your profession failed to diagnosis and treat and to secure public health and welfare. why are you being different then the rest of your profession? people keep their names secrete because they need their jobs to support their families and they need to have to go to stores and buy their food and clothing and can't afford to be outcast, and when they tried to get medical treatment three of your colleagues tried to have them declared insane and caused more financial devastations and ruined a reputation and ruined a family. where is recourse for that at, where does a family get back years stolen and lives destroyed? why was this allowed to go on for so long?
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Postby msc » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:20 am

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to tam, i viewed the photos of the super bug, if know where there is made and what company is producing why don't you let all of us know. what this organism put in a retinoid cream and cosmetics and hair growth products using innocent people to spread this infectious filfthy agent? was developed in hoffman-roche lab, or was in degussa labs, or was in the turkey labs or the netherlands or siemens lab, their huge plastic organism that goes from the floor to the ceiling looks a lot like what i see and photos show. can you help us out and resolve this issue before it is too late, accutane causes people to kill themself, is was used in a product that is being sold to millions what is this drug made of, not to mention the mind altering tetrahydro cannibinoids made from thc. how are products that emit gases being allowed to be sold and no warnings on this fda products?
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