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Postby SarahBione » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:33 pm

Sabrina wrote:Sarah, have you ever in your history of researching the fiber disease EVER sat down with a real live victim in person and watched this stuff expel from anyone’s skin?


Sabrina, I don't study the fiber disease. I never have. I studied bugs. If there is "stuff" expelling from anyone's skin, it won't be hard to catch on video with a size reference such as a penny next to the emerging object, and send to a physician.

Sabrina wrote:MY CHALLENGE TO YOU, IF YOU ARE NOT TOO SCARED TO BECOME INFECTED, IS TO MEET WITH JUST ONE SEASONED VICTIM AND WATCH THIS MANIFESTATION WITH YOUR OWN EYES. CAN YOU HANDLE THAT SARRAH? ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE US A FAIR CHANCE AND HELP US FIGHT FOR SOME TREATMENT? DO YOU HAVE ANY HUMANITY IN YOU?

I AM WILLING TO ARRANGE AN APPOINTMENT FOR YOU WITH A LEGITIMATE FIBER DISEASE VICTIM. TEN MINUITES OF YOUR TIME IS NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR SUCH A SERIOUS MATTER, DON’T YOU AGREE?

WHY NOT SEE IT FOR YOURSELF SARAH? I DARE YOU!!!!!!


That is a very passionate expression. What on earth makes you think I study "morgellons"? Or that I am in any position to do anything about it? I touched hundreds of samples of "morgellons" over the past year, and have yet to see a single "symptom." Your demand is not particularly compelling. If direct contact, ten minutes, will give someone else "morgellons," then Dr. Wynemore and Dr. Schwartz and Ms. Savely will be describing their symptoms any day now.

Sabrina wrote:I want to believe that you are a compassionate person. And, I also want to believe that you would do anything with in your power to prevent yourself from causing more harm and devastating your professional career within the process.


This is particularly vague. Explain what I have done or what has happened that has harmed of devastated my professional career.
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Postby SarahBione » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:39 pm

Skytroll wrote:lets establish the fact that the vested interest you have in sarah connor or any other morgie for that matter is certainly not motivated by a sincere desire to help.


That's correct. "Morgellons" is just a curious hobby of mine.

Skytroll wrote:you clearly have an agenda here


Please show me in what ways I have expressed an agenda.

Skytroll wrote:so sarah , tell me if you don’t mind, how that bug study turned out? you did actually conduct a study about bugs right? because it would be pretty unethical of you to misrepresent the purpose of your investigation when you solicitated personal information from those who thought you were actually trying to help find answers for the morgellons mystery. you may have already addressed this issue and if so i apologize.


Yes, I have addressed this before. All research must be approved by the IRB, the internal review board, which approves the ethical and legal considerations of any study involving any vertebrate, including humans.

Skytroll wrote:perhaps we could get together and discuss your findings in person. i live in atlanta , about 3 blocks from the cdc actually. maybe you could stop by for some tea and crumpets. or we could meet in athens. i have a few friends in the area and visit often. you are perfectly safe of course . delusions are not contagious right? one last thing…. GO DAWGS!!!


I received uncountable samples from "morgellons" and have yet to see any symptoms in my skin. If "morgellons" is contagious, I would have them, correct? As would Ms. Savely, Dr. Wynemore, and Dr. Schwartz. Yet, we don't. Not particularly compelling evidence for being contagious.

I no longer reside in Georgia, but thank you for the invitation.
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Postby gwentass » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:55 pm

I apologize for being lazy and not feeling like going through all 300 plus pages of posts.....

Has genetics or genetic predisposition been considered as a possible source/cause for Morgellans?
I don't make the rules. I just get confused by them.
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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:07 pm

Sarah,

I did not write the above you refer to. It came from PPY18 who lives near the CDC. I do not live in Ga.


Hey all had to share this new medical brainstorm with ya,

Anyway, I can see where the brightest and best's
minds are:

"Parasitic worms used to fight bowel disease, says MSU researcher
Contact: Linda Chadderdon, College of Veterinary Medicine: (517) 355-5165, chadderd@cvm.msu.edu; or Tom Oswald, University Relations: (517) 432-0920, oswald@msu.edu
May 17, 2006
EAST LANSING, Mich. – Although most of us cringe at the sound of the words “parasitic worms,” it’s a fact that some of these creatures are actually good for us.
At Michigan State University, researcher Linda Mansfield is part of a national team of scientists investigating the role that parasites can play in treating inflammatory bowel disease, or IBD, in humans.
Her research is part of a more than $10 million National Institutes of Health grant supporting the Food and Waterborne Diseases Integrated Research Network of laboratories launched by the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Some researchers argue that improved hygiene throughout the developed world may be responsible for inflammatory bowel disease, as well as a whole range of autoimmune disorders. According to this "hygiene hypothesis," immune systems require exposure to infections of all sorts early in life in order to develop sufficiently.
Intriguingly, inflammatory bowel disease, which has two forms – Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis – is virtually unknown in the developing world, while it is increasing dramatically in developed societies. When people from developing countries move to developed ones, their incidence of the disease tends to increase.
"We know from veterinary medicine that many bacterial and protozoan pathogens, especially those that multiply inside of cells, elicit an immune response in the host that would normally cause inflammation, but that worm parasites mount an anti-inflammatory defense that modulates it," said Mansfield, a professor of large animal clinical sciences. "The greater the immune response, the greater the anti-inflammatory effect.
"It's possible that the human immune system developed in a way that is dependent on parasitic worms to regulate immune responses."The particular worm that Mansfield and colleagues are studying as a potential treatment is known as the whipworm, or Trichuris suis, which is a parasite that afflicts pigs. Early studies have shown that giving humans a concoction of whipworm eggs and Gatorade is very effective in treating inflammatory bowel disease.Mansfield and colleagues are using some of the NIH funding to develop an animal model to test the effectiveness of the worms on inflammatory bowel disease and other maladies. Also, she is waiting for word on a new NIH grant that will support efforts to learn how the treatment works.
"The bottom line right now is that we know none of the mechanisms of how this works," she said.
Mansfield, as well as other researchers, also wants to apply this effort to a variety of autoimmune conditions, such as asthma, diabetes and multiple sclerosis. Some researchers suggest that all of these conditions can be explained as combinations of the hygiene hypothesis and genetics.###
Michigan State University has been advancing knowledge and transforming lives through innovative teaching, research and outreach for 150 years. MSU is known internationally as a major public university with global reach and extraordinary impact. Its 14 degree-granting colleges attract scholars worldwide who are interested in combining education with practical problem solving."

source:http://newsroom.msu.edu/site/indexer/2779/content.htm


So, I see that the NIH sets up disease or parasitic infection and then the CDC controlled by the CIA is supposed to put alerts out that a parasitic enemic is forthcoming and the Pharmaceutical companies already have the antidote. WOW what a way to go.
Do we know what a whip worm is? This could be what we already have, and it certainly is making us feel a whole lot better.
What a waste of NIH money, when we know that they are not looking to cure, but to create new problems.


Trichuris suis, Whipworm:
And this would not cause CFS - Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?

"Effect on Host: Larvae burrowing into the intestinal walls can cause irritation. Most of the pathology is from adult worms in the large intestine, which suck blood and damage the mucosa. This produces anaemia, bloody and watery diarrhoea, and occasional deaths. Infections in young pigs cause loss of appetite and slow stunted growth.
Diagnostic Information: Characteristic eggs in faeces; worms at postmortem examinations.
Pictures:
source: http://au.merial.com/producers/pigs/dis ... huris.html

I think a letter of explanation needs to come from NIH.

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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:14 pm

Your Gatarade may just have worm eggs in it.

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/Tim ... 29930.html


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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:16 pm

NIH funds the wrong things. NIH is our problem.
NIH rules the CDC. NIH lies to us. NIH does not give a "hooey" about our health. Only dumb ideas, that have no merit. Have they forgotten what they stand for?

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Postby Barz » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:29 pm

Sarah, I sure hope you stick with research!!! Based on how you treat those you communicate with in your " hobbie", you lack tact and therefore, you would have about NO bedside manner. Hope you are entertaining yourself here, you cruel bit##!

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Postby Foxy Lady » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:23 pm

I see Sarah saying to Sabrina:

"That is a very passionate expression. What on earth makes you think I study "morgellons"? Or that I am in any position to do anything about it? I touched hundreds of samples of "morgellons" over the past year, and have yet to see a single "symptom." "

Well sorry, Sarah - nobody sees symptoms. Signs are what a professional sees. Symptoms are what a patient describes.

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Postby nettimo » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:46 pm

To all:
My sister (who wanted to have me committed several months ago!) now is producing fibers from her face and arms. She also has coughed up many clear worms 1/2" after feeling something in her throat, after rubbing her jaw with oregano oil--she feels movement there. Half dozen 1/2" white fibers came out of her jaw also. We removed a 1/4" clear worm from her arm when trying to remove what we thought was a splinter the next day. She also has found 1/4" pink larval form while brushing her teeth. So far specimens sent to lab return as "negative." Now another sister confesses she is itching. We all work at the same hospital..........................

Just a word about transmission of this disease. I have strong reason to suspect that it can be communicated via public restrooms. (Also likely an STD like trich.)

I have observed pairs of barely visible fibers, such as I observed in the onset of my awareness of fiber disease.(coming from my nose), on any and every toilet/bathroom I have cared to examine. It presents as barely visible dark sometimes wavy line, with nearby tiny speck. (Under magnification: blue fiber and smaller red fiber.) Sometimes fibers are larger and more easily seen, up to half inch or so.

This has been true in whatever state I have been in on the mid to southern east coast whether it has been at work, my sisters, a dr.'s office or any public bathroom--store, train station, bus station, etc. The less frequently the bathroom has been cleaned, the more fiber pairs I have observed.
I have even observed fibers floating in train station toilets. Pristine bathrooms you may have to look at base of toilet.

Therefore, just adding my "field notes" to your suspicions that the presence of these fibers is ubiquitous, and that we are the proverbial canaries-in-the-coal mine.

I would appreciate it if any of you, especially those who use a handheld magnifier or microscope, would confirm my observations, starting with your own porcelain pots. Can even capture fibers with scotchtape and place on paper for easier viewing.

I still emit fibers in pairs at times, coming from just about anywhere (and I do mean anywhere). This a.m., from skin at corner of my eye.
ANY advice re. treating the sensitive tissues around the eyes?? I see small lumps both around eyes and even one inside bottom lid...too close for comfort.
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Postby Foxy Lady » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:12 am

Would you mind defining "worms" and "fibers", nettimo?

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nettimo wrote:To all:
My sister (who wanted to have me committed several months ago!) now is producing fibers from her face and arms. She also has coughed up many clear worms 1/2" after feeling something in her throat, after rubbing her jaw with oregano oil--she feels movement there. Half dozen 1/2" white fibers came out of her jaw also. We removed a 1/4" clear worm from her arm when trying to remove what we thought was a splinter the next day. She also has found 1/4" pink larval form while brushing her teeth. So far specimens sent to lab return as "negative." Now another sister confesses she is itching. We all work at the same hospital..........................

Just a word about transmission of this disease. I have strong reason to suspect that it can be communicated via public restrooms. (Also likely an STD like trich.)

I have observed pairs of barely visible fibers, such as I observed in the onset of my awareness of fiber disease.(coming from my nose), on any and every toilet/bathroom I have cared to examine. It presents as barely visible dark sometimes wavy line, with nearby tiny speck. (Under magnification: blue fiber and smaller red fiber.) Sometimes fibers are larger and more easily seen, up to half inch or so.

This has been true in whatever state I have been in on the mid to southern east coast whether it has been at work, my sisters, a dr.'s office or any public bathroom--store, train station, bus station, etc. The less frequently the bathroom has been cleaned, the more fiber pairs I have observed.
I have even observed fibers floating in train station toilets. Pristine bathrooms you may have to look at base of toilet.

Therefore, just adding my "field notes" to your suspicions that the presence of these fibers is ubiquitous, and that we are the proverbial canaries-in-the-coal mine.

I would appreciate it if any of you, especially those who use a handheld magnifier or microscope, would confirm my observations, starting with your own porcelain pots. Can even capture fibers with scotchtape and place on paper for easier viewing.

I still emit fibers in pairs at times, coming from just about anywhere (and I do mean anywhere). This a.m., from skin at corner of my eye.
ANY advice re. treating the sensitive tissues around the eyes?? I see small lumps both around eyes and even one inside bottom lid...too close for comfort.
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Postby befour » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:28 am

Hi Nettimo,

I have been using Terramycin by Pfizer eye ointment for quite some time now.......on and in my eyes, ears, nose, scalp and anywhere else THEY show up. It does not sting or burn at all......but it will drive the worms crazy!! It will also clear up any infection the critters have caused.

You are so right about the restrooms, I have noticed it too!! I find that I am cleaning my bathroom every time I go in there. We have a white tile floor, white sink, tub and toilet, so the black fibers really stand out. But.....just as many more are invisible.....and don't show up until I spray clorox II on them. My husband and teenage son do not have this disease, so I would use my last ounce of strength. and do anything to keep them from getting this horrible crap!!!

take care

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Hi Sabrina

Your letter was great...very eloquent and "to the point! Thank you for representing us and I hope you get a reply very soon!!
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Postby SarahBione » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:51 pm

Barz wrote:Sarah, I sure hope you stick with research!!! Based on how you treat those you communicate with in your " hobbie", you lack tact and therefore, you would have about NO bedside manner. Hope you are entertaining yourself here, you cruel bit##!

Regards,

Barz


Dear Barz,

Please show me in what ways I have been a cruel "Bit##" and we can discuss this.

Sincerely, Sarah
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