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Postby RANDY » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:05 am

No doubt we have all been abused by the medical community and the sick community as well and the opportunist community and the community of bored people screwing with our heads but through all of that we have to keep a positive outlook or they have all won.

So please everyone, if you want to gather your state, and if you want to do something in England..I have a activist willing to help, contact me and we can quit bitching and become activist armed with what we can legally do and gathering REAL medical info instead of looking for everything under the sun and doing nothing about it.

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Postby Skytroll » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:32 am

Randy,

These are stupid questions.

Are you working with Dr. Wymore? The New Morgellon Order? The CDC? Are you our rep to the CDC?
Or is this something you are working on, on your own? What doctors are looking at this, or scientists you know?
I am confused.
I see that you want to hold the CDC resposible, which I totally agree with, but, do you have alternate plans, if they recind on their study?

There seems to again be some close knit folks, who are in their own little groups, but, do not see overall unity. Am I in the wrong boat? When the cruise left, I though I was with those folks that were forging ahead into the open water of truth and unity.

Or.......dang.......maybe I am just too far North.
yep, one of those Yankees.......Can't help it.
Been too close to the bridge again.

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Postby J Jill » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:20 am

Good evening all,

Canalon,

Thanks for the explanation! Just curious.

As to the conspiracy theory comment, I'll raise my hand. I read the script- theirs, that is- and lo and behold, we are now living it. More on that when I have time...

As to the computer question, I spent nearly 3 years with some idiot/s hacking my machine. Once, I watched as an email disappeared before my eyes (as I was reading it). The source, of course, is related to the thread topic. The hacking source, that is.

Once, I opened an email at work - a virus of some sort- and it knocked out the company network. Another time, I stupidly opened an attachment at the library (email- mine) and the library techs spent 3 days working on getting the network back online.

One heck of a hacker, eh?

Some day, when I have some time, I'll give you the short story on the hacker/s. It's interesting.

Being OCD and all, I had to find out who it was. I did.

In any case, as John Lennon once said- "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you".



TamTam,

Thanks for the info the other day- I see where it fits-

Skytroll,

If you want the name of attorney that could help- really help:

http://www.motleyrice.com/


http://www.motleyrice.com/attorneys/Dis ... sp?aid=104

Motley Rice Attorney Bio
Motley Rice Trial Attorney
Ronald L. Motley is internationally recognized as one of America’s most dynamic, accomplished and skilled trial lawyers. Over a career spanning more than three decades, his persuasiveness before a jury and his ability to break new legal and evidentiary ground has brought to justice two once-invincible giant industries whose malfeasance took the lives of millions of Americans — asbestos and tobacco.

Today, Motley is once again advancing cutting-edge litigation as lead counsel for more than 6,500 family members and survivors of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks seeking justice against al Qaeda’s financiers.

Motley has won numerous awards for his ability to win justice and compensation for his clients and for his seminal impact on the course of civil litigation. In 1998, he was named Harry M. Philo Trial Lawyer of the Year by the 50,000-member Association of Trial Lawyers of America and received the President’s Award of the National Association of Attorneys General. The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids gave him their Youth Advocates of the Year Award in 1999. Business Week magazine characterized Motley’s courtroom skills as “dazzling.” American Lawyer dubbed him “The man who took on Manville,” and The National Law Journal has ranked him, “One of the most influential lawyers in America.”

His combination of legal and trial skills, personal charisma, nose-to-the-grindstone hard work and record of success has enabled Motley, a 1971 graduate of the University of South Carolina School of Law, to build Motley Rice LLC into one of the world’s leading plaintiffs’ law firms concentrating in highly complex litigation.
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Postby Systemic » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:21 am

Canalon is correct.

it is a time server.

but this is not. if you own a relatively new hp. search for a file named.....
"killwind.exe" if present, unarchive the file and delete. virus complements of HP. you may actually find the file as many as 16-17 times in the recovery partition. right out the box.

Now that most people today run firewalls on their machines and most firewalls block time servers. the answer would be no. because of the firewalls. if you use the windows firewall the answer to your question is yes by default, no if user specifies another.
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Postby RANDY » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:34 am

These are stupid questions.

(R) No thye are not.


Are you working with Dr. Wymore?

(R)Yes I am part of the new group.


The New Morgellon Order?
(R) Yes we are all activists searching for a cure and to keep teh CDC honest.

The CDC? Are you our rep to the CDC?
(R) NO. Dan Rutz will be talking to me on a monthly basis and others with the NMO talk to him also. He prefers to speak with the doctors of the group who do not press him, that is my job.

Or is this something you are working on, on your own?
(R) No not at all on my own. I have the support of many good people who trust me to do this. It was my idea but they had already thought of it and were doing other things so they let me take the ball and run with it.

(R) I will have help developing the letters that will be sent out on certain days and the structure to follow of what we want to accomplish and how we will accomplish those goals. It is a group effort with doctors and nurses and lawyers on board.

What doctors are looking at this, or scientists you know?

(R) MorgFest is going to try and raise the money for Wymore ot have a full tiem person working on this. That is the goal of the festival. The idea is to get everyone to follow the Georgia model inj thier state and get the Secretary of Health and Human Services to go along and from that point we will have a list of scientists and doctors on our side.


I am confused. I see that you want to hold the CDC resposible, which I totally agree with, but, do you have alternate plans, if they recind on their study?

(R) They will not recind on their study. It is in the works and Rutz is actually on our side and believe it or not..he honestly thinks that they are going to do what they state and that they are honestly concernd and that we are fully aware that a whitewash or a study htat is hald assed will not fly and having a backup study via all the states will secure this fact.

There seems to again be some close knit folks, who are in their own little groups, but, do not see overall unity. Am I in the wrong boat? When the cruise left, I though I was with those folks that were forging ahead into the open water of truth and unity.

(R) Everyone is welcome to join in this effort and if you decide not to..that will be your individual choice. But the boat will not wait forever at the dock for people to decide. First come, first serve.

Or.......dang.......maybe I am just too far North.
yep, one of those Yankees.......Can't help it.
Been too close to the bridge again.

(R) I am from NY, Long Island.(ORIGINALLY) Where are your from?


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Postby Skytroll » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:35 pm

Thanks Randy,

Well, I am from Michigan. I will give you a call.

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Postby Sabrina » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:53 pm

I just got booted off the net when I tried to post this so we'll see if this one makes it or not.

Thanks Systemic, oregano oil is an old friend and I know what I have to do. Been on ketronazole(spelling?) for five days now and I am seeing an immediate improvement. This stuff really responds to the antifungals for me.

Thanks J Jill for the link. 8)

Here is what I sent today. :D



Dear webmaster,

I tried to submit this letter through the contact link on the motley rice website five times and was unsuccessful in doing so since the page could not be displayed for some reason.

Please pass this e-mail on to the website for me and if it is not too much to ask, please send a conformation back to me to let me know this has been done.

Thank you


Dear Sirs,

I am contacting you today with a most urgent matter of great concern to many American citizens. Your law firm has a wonderful reputation and very successful track record of courageously going up against some very elite organizations. These attributes would be essential for the resolution of the current problem that thousands of people desperately need for the circumstances that I shall inform you about now.

The issue I present that needs immediate attention concerns an emerging infectious and contagious clinical condition that is apparently being ignored dismissed and often even denied within our medical communities, research universities, and government agencies.

Although the Center for Disease Control has recently began to officially investigate this clinical condition, many people know this pacification is obviously too little and much too late. In order to understand the seriousness of this clinical condition I would like to inform you that it has been apparent that death has been the result of complications with this condition if not the actual cause itself. We may never know until somebody begins to hold accountable the correct agencies that are set in place to handle these responsibilities.

Due to the unique complexity of the nature of this condition and the fact that doctors are either uninformed or unwilling and very, very scared to treat it, we find it impossible to receive proper medical treatment if treatment of any type can even be obtained at all. I ask you, how can this be happening in our America?

Thousands of people represented from every state in our country suffer from the bizarre symptom of some type of unidentifiable fibrous matter that extrudes from the dermis and epidermis thus this condition has been termed The Fiber Disease. So little is known about this condition that its source could honestly be anything from bio-terrorism to where ever your imagination may take you because modern day science has never seen anything like this before. These facts make us a group that have been easily dismissed and often discredited in the past however, this condition does not go away but continues to get worse and more people become infected every day this goes ignored.

We have united and are looking for your guidance.

Here are some results of our current activism.

CDC forming Morgellons task force
Web Posted: 05/23/2006 01:08 AM CDT
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has launched an investigation into the skin condition called Morgellons disease.

Since a story about Morgellons first aired on KENS 5 Eyewitness News, the station has been inundated with e-mails and phone calls from the medical community and others how claim to have the symptoms described in the story. The story has received tens of thousands of page views on the MySanAntonio.com

The story was how Les Coble of Pleasanton found out he was not alone.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/ ... 13d3a.html


NEW SURVEILLANCE DATABASE
“UNIDENTIFIED DERMATOSIS SYNDROME”

Abstract: There have been reports to state and local public health agencies from residents
throughout Georgia of thread-like skin parasites in their skin, and a related set of symptoms.
In response, the Unidentified Dermatosis Syndrome (UDS) Surveillance Database was
developed and is maintained by the Chemical Hazards Program, Environmental Health Section,
Georgia Division of Public Health. It is intended to build and maintain self-reported symptom
surveillance capacity.

Jane M. Perry, Director
Chemical Hazards Program
Georgia Division of Public Health
Atlanta, Georgia
(404) 657-6534

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Mva ... us/pdfs/ha


Our entire nation is relying on one research professional that has absolutely no funding other than personal donations which have been minimal to say the least. This humanitarian volunteers his time for serious cause.

Randy S. Wymore, Ph.D., assistant professor of pharmacology and physiology has taken on the research challenge in his academic research.

http://healthsciences.okstate.edu/morge ... search.cfm
http://healthsciences.okstate.edu/morgellons/links.cfm


ABC News
Good Morning America
Cynthia McFadden
July 28, 2006

Mysterious Skin Disease Causes Itching, Loose Fibers

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/st ... 987&page=1



ABC News
Primetime Medical Mysteries
August 9, 2006
Cynthia McFadden

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/stor...amp;page=1



I hope that your law firm can help with this matter we now face as a nation. Our systems have failed us all and we must take serious action so this condition can be properly addressed to alleviate the suffering of thousands of innocent people. I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
Ms. ////////////

/////////////, Pennsylvania





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Postby Skytroll » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:22 pm

Sabrina,

Thank you. I think it is good.

Randy,
Boy, Michigan is in trouble, been looking at the lakes for a long time, and will try to get more info on what is going on in Great Lakes. There are many forces working here. Also, will try to get report on algae study.

Okay, time to get to work Randy. Hey, I was thinking about that pamphlet that we were going to put together? What happened to all those questions I asked a while back. Helen.......where are you? Linn? I will look for questions and info we worked on a while back.

Wish I could come to Morgie Fest. Have another event that weekend.
Maybe, I can work something out, though.


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Postby RANDY » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:11 pm

Contact me if you want to head the effort for your State.

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1) Get a main volunteer from each state to act as the head person.
2) Get a copy of the Georgia model.
3) Contact the secretary of health and human services or find a main person to talk to and send the model.
4) Find ten or more people from that state to make phone calls and write letters..but we will have these letters already written out, just have them send them. We can also write out a skeleton script to follow when calling.
5) If all goes well, establish these set ups in a minimum of 5 states and go for more if the plan is successful.
6) I will contact Dan Rutz after it is done and let him know that we now have centers in these states and that we require updates from the CDC which will be compared to what our centers are doing..a bit of fear of G_d in him.
7) This also gives him and the CDC a place to go for clinical trials which they do not do.
8) These centers will report back to Wymore on a monthly conference call meeting.

The deadline for signing up to represent your state is January 1st, 2007.
The campaign for completion of phase one will be March 2007.

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Postby J Jill » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:48 am

Excellent letter, Sabrina! I hope you get a response from the attorney. Seems like a perfect fit for the cause. You summed up the situation quite nicely!

Thanks for the response, Systemic- I don't have an HP (currently) but I'll take a look in the files anyway.

Funny you mention HP- that's the group tied to the post by Tam Tam- more on that tomorrow-

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IT IS IN THE COTTON!!!!!!

Postby Sabrina » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:22 pm

I thought I should get more personal. So I sent this today.

http://www.motleyrice.com/attorneys/dis ... sp?aid=239

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:0MW ... F-8&strip=



Dear Attorney Evangelista,

I was going over your profile on your website and saw that you worked on the Starlink case. I wish to commend you on pioneering qualities.

Upon completing this e-mail yesterday I tried to submit it to the motelyrice website. Being unsuccessful I sent it to the webmaster to pass on. I would like to now pass my e-mail on for you to read and hopefully give some much needed guidance.

Thank you for your time.



Dear webmaster,

I tried to submit this letter through the contact link on the motley rice website five times and was unsuccessful in doing so since the page could not be displayed for some reason.

Please pass this e-mail on to the website for me and if it is not too much to ask, please send a conformation back to me to let me know this has been done.

Thank you


Dear Sirs,

I am contacting you today with a most urgent matter of great concern to many American citizens. Your law firm has a wonderful reputation and very successful track record of courageously going up against some very elite organizations. These attributes would be essential for the resolution of the current problem that thousands of people desperately need for the circumstances that I shall inform you about now.

The issue I present that needs immediate attention concerns an emerging infectious and contagious clinical condition that is apparently being ignored dismissed and often even denied within our medical communities, research universities, and government agencies.

Although the Center for Disease Control has recently began to officially investigate this clinical condition, many people know this pacification is obviously too little and much too late. In order to understand the seriousness of this clinical condition I would like to inform you that it has been apparent that death has been the result of complications with this condition if not the actual cause itself. We may never know until somebody begins to hold accountable the correct agencies that are set in place to handle these responsibilities.

Due to the unique complexity of the nature of this condition and the fact that doctors are either uninformed or unwilling and very, very scared to treat it, we find it impossible to receive proper medical treatment if treatment of any type can even be obtained at all. I ask you, how can this be happening in our America?

Thousands of people represented from every state in our country suffer from the bizarre symptom of some type of unidentifiable fibrous matter that extrudes from the dermis and epidermis thus this condition has been termed The Fiber Disease. So little is known about this condition that its source could honestly be anything from bio-terrorism to where ever your imagination may take you because modern day science has never seen anything like this before. These facts make us a group that have been easily dismissed and often discredited in the past however, this condition does not go away but continues to get worse and more people become infected every day this goes ignored.

We have united and are looking for your guidance.

Here are some results of our current activism.

CDC forming Morgellons task force
Web Posted: 05/23/2006 01:08 AM CDT
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has launched an investigation into the skin condition called Morgellons disease.

Since a story about Morgellons first aired on KENS 5 Eyewitness News, the station has been inundated with e-mails and phone calls from the medical community and others how claim to have the symptoms described in the story. The story has received tens of thousands of page views on the MySanAntonio.com

The story was how Les Coble of Pleasanton found out he was not alone.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/ ... 13d3a.html


NEW SURVEILLANCE DATABASE
“UNIDENTIFIED DERMATOSIS SYNDROME”

Abstract: There have been reports to state and local public health agencies from residents
throughout Georgia of thread-like skin parasites in their skin, and a related set of symptoms.
In response, the Unidentified Dermatosis Syndrome (UDS) Surveillance Database was
developed and is maintained by the Chemical Hazards Program, Environmental Health Section,
Georgia Division of Public Health. It is intended to build and maintain self-reported symptom
surveillance capacity.

Jane M. Perry, Director
Chemical Hazards Program
Georgia Division of Public Health
Atlanta, Georgia
(404) 657-6534

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Mva ... us/pdfs/ha


Our entire nation is relying on one research professional that has absolutely no funding other than personal donations which have been minimal to say the least. This humanitarian volunteers his time for serious cause.

Randy S. Wymore, Ph.D., assistant professor of pharmacology and physiology has taken on the research challenge in his academic research.

http://healthsciences.okstate.edu/morge ... search.cfm
http://healthsciences.okstate.edu/morgellons/links.cfm


ABC News
Good Morning America
Cynthia McFadden
July 28, 2006

Mysterious Skin Disease Causes Itching, Loose Fibers

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/st ... 987&page=1



ABC News
Primetime Medical Mysteries
August 9, 2006
Cynthia McFadden

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/stor...amp;page=1



I hope that your law firm can help with this matter we now face as a nation. Our systems have failed us all and we must take serious action so this condition can be properly addressed to alleviate the suffering of thousands of innocent people. I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
Ms. /////////

///////// Pennsylvania




Additional Link:

GMO Disease Epidemics: (10) Bt-cotton Fiber Disease
author: Myron (Mike) Stagman, PhD e-mail: artemesium@gmail.com


the mysterious Fiber Disease epidemic

Here is another new, mystery disease erupting in the Genetic Engineering era.

Although primarily incident in the United States (where genetically-engineered cotton is almost unavoidable), it too is becoming international , like GM products (in this case, Bt cotton).

There are reports of incidence from 15 other nations including Canada, the UK and The Netherlands.

Where on this entire planet has Fiber Disease been most prevalent? First, California. Second, Texas. Third, Florida. Three big cotton-growing regions.

Certain cotton products are carrying something that gives rise to virtual science fiction symptoms among users of these products.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/344305.shtml
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