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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:43 pm

Sabrina,

Has any attempt been brought to bring this to the attention of Congress. I think we have to start there, in USA, before going to internation court.

The reason I say that is because, we have not had a hearing, at all. If we could get one with the CDC present, the NIH, the HHS, and DHS, AMA and ADA we might have a chance of having the Congress actually see and hear our stories and the direct response from those who should be investigating this. If we cannot get a hearing then we should take this further for legal and criminal investigation.
I believe other agencies are aware of this:
The FBI, The EPA, the DOE, the DOD. So, if we cannot get the Congress to do their job, as elected officials of the people, then we can go further.

We did start at one time to find info on appearing before Congress. That might be a beginning.

It is a tedius process, but I am willing to put it together, if you all think it would be beneficial.

Will see response from Ms. Erin.

Please let me know.

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Postby mfromcanada » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:44 pm

Randy and maf, Your pictures are the worst I have ever seen. The lesions are way larger than anything I have had. The largest hole in the center of any lesion that I have is at the most the size of the end of a pencil. I think that there are many sub-types of this based on the type of insect or whatever put in the mixture. I think they used a Monarch butterfly for mine as the colours in the scabs look like a Monarch butterfly. Do any others have lesions that look as big as Randy or maf? I don't see how we can start any legal action at this point either as we don't know who to sue.
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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:12 pm

mrcpvis,

I think we need to bring this to Congress, in some manner.

We do know that we need answers from the USDA, FDA, the EPA, the DOE, the DOD, the FBI, the AMA, the ADA, and others who have neglected to investigate this. We can sue the govt. So, a hearing may be order first. I have watched for years, information brought up to Congress, and if we keep this unbiased, per party affiliation, but keep it centered on an injustice done to the people of this country and the world, through operations being carried out by the above mentioned agencies, then we have something to go on.

It will take some hard work, but, it can be done.

Methioliosis has now been found to be related to SV40, as co-factor, and this is proven.

If we have the data, the evidence, from docs who are concerned, with no condemnation from agencies just for being questioned, then we can see where the cause may be or the direction we need to take. However, if these agencies dismiss this then we can be pretty sure, that they are not willing to investigate this. Then we can go further.

The ADA, American Dermatological Agency, needs to be brought into the hearing. They are who should be investigating this. And, if they refuse then the information the FBI is gathering should be enough to bring this to the forefront of the American people.

Neglect and failure to investigate a condition that is destroying the lives of American citizens and others in other countries due to worldwide endeavors that are secret is enough to bring this to Congress. After a hearing in Congress, we will know who to sue.

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Postby Barz » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:03 pm

Thank you for making the contact skytroll. It is my opinion that any agency in the United States would deny any stray target infection. We probably need to bypass them altogether. It will just waste our time. However, I see the point you are making. I just would like to see this take place in my lifetime. Whatever the proper avenues are we do need to take them. We need legal advice. We also need tam tam. What will guarantee his safety and his promise to help?
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Postby Skytroll » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:56 pm

I think if it is put before Congress, the agencies will have to explain the things that are being done, or not done, in relations to what is going on in the environment and what their missions are for the future. If we go worldwide, then the UN will have to answer, also.
I have info that shows they are taking action on a global stage, yet the public is not aware of it, and it is thrown in the conspiracy pile.
The genomics are out there, the scientific risks are being taken, and the public is to just accept it?
I think not. Activists are out there, but, this is a health issue and the AMA, the ADA is not dealing with it. The NIH knows that agencies are not following the guidelines. If we put the guidelines out there to Congress and point out where these agencies are negligent, we have a case.

However, the releases that happen have not been brought to the public's knowledge, so I would include the govt. press, as neglectful of their role to hold the govt responsible. They are being told in journalism class to not talk about certain issues.
This is not acceptable. Hence, alternative news sources with accurate information will have to be included in this.

For instances, it was mentioned in a interview on National TV during airing of 911 info that fibers were coming off skin of firemen exposed to the dust from the buildings when they fell.
The dust had to have been analyzed by the FBI.

I am so sick of the lies we are told. The media is part of the problem. Real investigative reporting is not being done on many issues. Until this is brought out into the open, with all the evidence, that we have gathered, and the neglectful attitudes of those most able to make some headway in this condition we have nothing.
Hard evidence is what we need. Many have been trying to do this, but, something is holding them back from reporting what they know.
I would like to see full disclosure, and if not then we will have to present the evidence. The evidence is on our skin and can be analyzed.

This is serious, and we need to bring this to the attention of the leaders of these agencies, the administration, the Senate and the Congress.

The media has been lax, and will only report on limited items, and those have to be scrutinized by govt officials before presented to the public.

We, the people have to go back and bring into full view the right that Benjamin Rush talked about, THE RIGHT TO HEALTH.
We have the right to health care, but we do not have the RIGHT TO HEALTH. He wanted to put that in the Bill of Rights.

However, we must push this Congress to bring full disclosure to the people of how our right to health has been abolished. We have covered the ways we have been neglected and labeled.

Otherwise, I would think that this govt and govts around the world have a secret agenda to hurt the very people who support them, or they have an agenda to hurt, rather than to lead us to a better education and understanding of what the true
science is that exists and the true nature of what is really going on. The truth will hurt, but propaganda that we are fed daily reeks of untruths, and some of what is told us, has another side to it. So, the whole truth is never found out. That is not conspiracy, that is deceit, that is misinformation, disinformation, and it destroys, does not uplift anyone.

Why is everyone afraid of the truth? Why are so many agencies and govt officials spending so much time and money trying to prove that the evidence of what is clearly seen by many of wrong doing, is not brought out into the open.

Do these people not believe that it is affecting them? Do they live in a compartmentalized world where they cannot see? I believe they do and intentionally do, out of the fear they choose not to deal with.

Fear causes many people to do things they would not otherwise do. But, real courage does take stamina and grit. It takes evidence and examines it, and brings it out for discussion among those concerned. Fear can be used to control. We all know that.

We are sick, and this is being ignored for some reason. Is that reason FEAR? Not by us, but, by those who refuse to examine this.

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Postby RANDY » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:17 pm

That was not of my hand..I ama woman ,,that was sent to me.

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Postby RANDY » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:29 pm

YOu have to show damages , long term, you have to first know who is doing this to you and have proof of that claim otherwsie you will be thrown out of court and you have to show that they knew what tehy were doing and the harm it would cause whent ehy did it and that they continued to do it after they knew the damaging effects.

If you look at thsi site you need to go after everyone for aliens to people who live under the earth from chemtrails to every lab in the USA and Europe. This is the point I was trying to make all the time.

Disinformation is having too much info. If you started a case all the opposite team would have to do is print out the pages from this site to show that no one knows what this is and it could be anything.

This has been my point from day one .This site has ruined our chances of any legal action. Everyone is all over the board knoowing what this is on Monday and changing it on Tuesday with NOTHING to back up anything except speculation.


That has been my point from day one.

Now Tam, beleive it or not, I am with him 100% for posting this..do not have a heart attack showed you a letter of people doing stuff a few pages back. Here is what WE are now doing.

We are contacting our Secretary of Health and Human services and mailing and faxing them the letter I will post after this post. That is posted a few pages back.

Then we are arranging a three way call where we will only introduce one to the other and then we will record, if possible the conversatin between them.

The point of the call is to set up the same program in at least 20 states by January 1 2007.

I am doing Virginia. If you want to be more than someone with an obsessive compulsive typing and internet seraching disorder and you really want to help contact me and let me know what date you will be doing this in your state.

cisfl2004@netzero.com

Otherwise..everyone here is just balh balh blah. That is why I hardly come here anymore. No one here is doing anything but talking and searching. No one is actually DOING anything at all! That makes me crazy!

Ok here goes...thank you Tam! (OH my ...did I say that?)

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Postby RANDY » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:45 pm

1) Get the number ( fax,phone and address) of your secretary of health and hman services for your state.
2) Send them this letter.( E-mail, fax and follow up with regular mail witha return receipt)
3) Call Jane below and tell her you want to have a three way call with your secretary of health and human services for your state. Get a date and a time. two if possibel that your secretary of health and human services can chose from.
4) Call the Secretary and arrange a three way call for a date and time to discuss setting up the program in your state.
5) If you do ntoh ave three way calling, get it placed on your phone for that day only. They can do this for a very minimal charge. $5.00
6) call one and then call the other and if you can record the call if you have speaker phone or take notes. Try to stay out of it and just make sure that they do what you want them to do and that is set up a program or talk abouta future date to talk about it after they talk with who they have to talk to.
7) After the conversatin is done, inform them you will follow up and then write them a snail mail message of thanks.


Please let me know by December 5th if you are going to do this and the date and time and state you live in.


NEW SURVEILLANCE DATABASE
“UNIDENTIFIED DERMATOSIS SYNDROME”

Abstract: There have been reports to state and local public health agencies from residents
throughout Georgia of thread-like skin parasites in their skin, and a related set of symptoms.
In response, the Unidentified Dermatosis Syndrome (UDS) Surveillance Database was
developed and is maintained by the Chemical Hazards Program, Environmental Health Section,
Georgia Division of Public Health. It is intended to build and maintain self-reported symptom
surveillance capacity.
Definition
The Chemical Hazards Program defines “Unidentified Dermatosis Syndrome” as reports of tiny
bugs that look like black specks, or thread-like parasites in the skin; or of "something" biting,
stinging, or crawling in the skin, and an accompanying set of symptoms including itching, visible
sores, and fatigue.
Hypothesis
The Chemical Hazards Program will examine whether:
1. parasites may be causing the symptoms, and
2. individuals may share hypersensitivity to toxins produced by certain fungi/molds present
in soil causing specific neurotoxic effects.
CURRENT ACTIVITIES: PHASE I
Surveillance Database and Initial Survey
Beginning March 1, 2006 we will administer a survey to collect data from individuals reporting
specific symptoms of UDS. Chemical Hazards Program staff is contacting Georgia residents
following referral from various state, district, and local public health agencies, health care
providers, other professionals, and individuals for voluntary participation in the survey.
Beginning September 1, 2006 Chemical Hazards Program staff will analyze the results of the
survey and decide which health education activities, networking strategies, referral resources,
environmental sampling, or medical interventions will best meet the needs of the survey
participants. Reports generated will contain grouped information only, and will not contain any
personal identifiers such as name or address.
The results of the data analyses are expected to be available to the public in late fall 2006. The
UDS surveillance database will remain in place and continue to gather information about cases in
Georgia.
Survey
The UDS survey requests basic demographic information: age, gender, race/ethnicity and
education level. Questions about their home environment and daily activities, including length of
residency, soil conditions, outdoor hobbies, employment history, and allergy history are
included. Respondents will be asked in detail about their symptoms, doctor visits, current
medications, health status of other family members and pets, and attempted and/or successful
treatments and symptom relief.
Page 2
Data Management and Entry
CHP staff will collect, manage, enter, and analyze all data from completed surveys. Survey data
will be entered into an Access database and cross checked for validity, reliability, and accuracy
by random verification of entered data and other accepted methods.
Data Analyses
Access 2000 database software will be used for data analyses. Survey questions will be analyzed
and compared using analytic techniques appropriate for community survey design. Univariate
analyses will generate descriptive statistics to characterize data from the survey. Bivariate and
multivariate analyses will assess whether trends and relationships exist among survey responses.
ArcView 9.0 software will be used to map/illustrate any trends and relationships.
If trends and relationships are found to exist and are determined to potentially be a result of
parasites and/or exposure to specific fungi present in soil, medical intervention and/or soil
sampling recommendations will provided to appropriate agencies. For more information, to refer
individuals, or to be considered for participation in the survey, please contact:

Jane M. Perry, Director
Chemical Hazards Program
Georgia Division of Public Health
Atlanta, Georgia
(404) 657-6534

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Postby RANDY » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:31 pm

Good letter to Erin Sky!!!!
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Postby nettimo » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:52 pm

Randy,
I so admire your tenacity. Being relatively new in my awareness of this infection, I am still in fear for my job, but have not ruled out helping with this if no one else steps forward.
I also wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your suggestions and ear during some of my most frustrating "morgellons moments."
I did not get to contact you prior to your call with CDC Dan, but must request that you amend your definition of this disease requiring one to have "nonhealing lesions." My sister is now "breaking out in fibers" from her face, and has had telltale lesions (small) on her arms and back and elsewhere (like me). I also have multiple chronic systemic symptoms which are creepy, miserable and quite worrisome. I want and need to be included in this Number! Like many I suspect that this infection is implicated in occult disease, which may not show as primarily cutaneous lesions. My neighbor, who has systemic fiber disease, has a husband sitting in the corner with mysterious neuropsychiatric disorder, and a mother who died of leukemia in same household... and a bunch of itchy kids.

Tam,
My pharmacist advises that the company that produces Stromectol (human Ivermectin) is discontinuing making this drug. Sort of feeds any conspiracy theory, doesn't it? You suggested that in your experience this drug in time rids one of the adult worms. Just how big are these? (Want to compare to what I've seen.)

Nadas,
Glad to hear that someone else gets nixed by big brother from posting, but who would have thought even Mensa's like sir nadas. I enjoy your musings, even if I can't follow...you certainly have a way with words.

Sabina,
You mentioned that some are using Amphotericin for systemic disease. Has this been effective and are you aware of any personal experiences? Dubbed "amphoterrible" by health care professionals, this is some nasty stuff and with considerable risk.

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Postby RANDY » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:16 am

Subject: HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT

HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington
chemistry mid-term.
The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it
with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the
pleasure of enjoying it as well:

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs
heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas
cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need
to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which
they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to
Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their
religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these
religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can
project that all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in
Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the
volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature
and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand
proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter
Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will
increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell
freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year
that, "It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you," and take into
account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be
true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen
over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it
follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore,
extinct......leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine
being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God."

This student received the only "A".


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Postby maf » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:47 am

these are interesting... can anyone identify?..
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