The Fiber Disease

[London]

Does this sound familiar to you guys?
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From the epidemiological point of view, several animal species may
function as reservoirs of the microorganism or may be susceptible to the
disease9.

Human transmission occurs by inhalation of infected dust or water
particles, ingestion of or contact of skin lesions with soil or water
containing the organism. A classical description of this infection was
the inhalation of dust or water particles on the landing areas of helicopters
during the Vietnam war.
Clinically, infections may appear in its acute form, spreading
fulminant sepsis; subclinically, it may last for a long period13. The most
common manifestations are bacteriemia; pneumonitis; pulmonary,
splenic, hepatic, and cutaneous abscesses and, more rarely, osteomyellitis,
lymphadenitis and a chronic granulomatous disease, in individuals that
present a genetical deficiency of the NADPH oxidase system of
phagocytes5. It is worthy of note that symptomatic forms in men and
animals occur, mostly, in prevalent areas at rainy seasons

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this was describing that infection I posted about yesterday.
Burkholderia pseudomallei or call it whitmore Disease OR.....the Meloidosis
Now, check this one out: Sounds just like it to me.....

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Prostatitis, epididymitis, and orchitis are generally included in the sexually transmitted diseases in young men (under 35 yr). In men over 35 years, the most important common etiologic agents of chronic genitourinary infections are Enterobacteriaceae and Staphylococcus spp . [36] There are also specific infectious agents such as bacteria ( Mycobacterium sp,[37,38] Brucella sp,[39] and Salmonella enteritidis [40]) , viruses ( Paramyxovirus parotidis), fungi ( Blastomyces dermatitidis ,[41] Coccidioides immitis ,[42] Cryptococcus neoformans [43]), and parasites ( Schistosoma sp ) .[44] Most of the reports remain anecdotal; the mycotic cases almost always occurred in acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. Other differential diagnoses must be considered ( Table 2 ). Sometimes, no causal agent is identified.

The microscopic examination of exudates usually shows few gram-negative bacilli, which look similar to other Pseudomonas organisms. B. pseudomallei grows on most standard laboratory media in 24 or 48 hours; therefore, bacteriologic diagnosis is usually easy. It also grows on MacConkey agar, with a pungent and earthy odor. The Ashdown medium is very effective for the recovery of B. pseudomallei from clinical specimen containing mixed bacterial flora‒with dry, wrinkled, and violet-purple colonies.

The chronic aspect of the lesions may explain why the cultures of the fluid samples in this case were all negative, contrary to the pus collected directly from the testicular abscess. Nevertheless, Inglis and colleagues recently reported a possible misidentification of B. pseudomallei by API 20NE, a biochemical panel test commonly used in endemic areas (Singapore).[45] This was not proved in our observation since the test correctly identified the species.
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That one was described as: Such a case is a rare presentation of subacute melioidosis without pulmonary or systemic symptoms. B. pseudomallei (also known as Whitmore's bacillus)

So, how can they not say this is what we have? My gosh, it’s such an easy out!-it covers so many things that can fall under this category.

I personally think our disease is the original one I said I found it to be and also that would be the same
As the one Ms. Savely and Mr, Stricker wrote about on Junee 27, 2006. I just think that they will group it under this broad name of a disease which is: ……..Meloidosis aka…..Whitmores Disease,…... B. pseudomallei (also known as Whitmore's bacillus) .

Question: Does anyone remember when the fell ill with this disease if you found unexplained scratch marks on your body? I do. I had two symmetrical scratches going down my tummy and one on my right bicep. I thought this to be most strange and I was wondering if anyone else noticed this this happened to them too. I know an ex-poster on Lymebusters named Southern drawl said the same thing happened to her.
She also said they were on her stomach.

[Skytroll]

Tam Tam,

Endosymbionts? Is that a word we should become familiar with?

Also you might find this interesting:

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/f ... /2157/FIG2

Skytroll

[Skytroll]

London,

I found bruises and scratch marks.

Skytroll

[Skytroll]

Hartuk,

You may find this interesting.

Koala Biovar of Chlamydia pneumoniae Infects Human and Koala Monocytes and Induces Increased Uptake of Lipids In Vitro

http://iai.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/69/12/7894

London,

TW183

http://genetics.plosjournals.org/perlse ... 020111.eor


or

TW183
http://www.papakyriazis.gr/twiny/TWINYH ... TW183.html


Next:
Spicules
Small, hard bodies of silica or calcium carbonate that serve as the skeletal elements in sponges.
Nudibranch
Shell-less marine snails.

"Sponges
Esponjas

Class Demospongiae
(contains 90% of all sponge species, including the most common and familiar forms)

Description
Sponges are the most primitive of the multicellular invertebrates. They lack a mouth and gut. The bodies are organized around a system of water canals. Sponges feed, breath, reproduce, and excrete by means of pumping water through their body. Their size is correlated to ocean current velocity and other factors such as availability of space and inclination of the substrate. A skeleton of organic spongin (type of protein) fibers, or siliceous or calcareous spicules, or a combination of both provides support. They vary widely in coloration (red, orange, blue, yellow, purple, etc.) and the spicules occur as many different shapes. These traits are helpful in identifying the sponge species.

Size: The sizes are very diverse. Some sponges can be less than a centimeter thick, covering or forming a crust on the surface of some object (encrusting sponges), whereas other upright forms can measure more than a meter.

Range and Habitat
Most species are marine and are found at all depths.

Natural History
Many animals use sponges for shelter. Sponges are a source of food to other invertebrates such as nudibranchs, chitons, and sea stars, and to sea turtles and tropical fishes.

Research on the biochemical products produced by sponges indicates its potential use as a source of pigments, steroids, and antibiotics."

Source: http://www.oceanoasis.org/fieldguide/sponges.html

Fisheries were the first experiments, I believe.

Skytroll

[Skytroll]

A bit of a World View, sorry just can't get to that local level yet. Am working on that, though.
Been wondering what GreenPeace has been us to, but this is in 90's. Will have to find some more updates.

"The official report states over and over again that genetically
engineered organisms present no special danger, but at no point
does the report provide a shred of evidence", said Isabelle
Meister, Greenpeace campaigner.

"The report is clearly biased in favour of industry interests
and, rather than promoting precautionary measure protecting
nature and biological diversity, the report disregards much
recent evidence on unpredictable impacts of GEOs when released to
nature," Meister said.

Third World countries are among the main proponents of a
biosafety protocol. Third World countries generally lack
biosafety regulation and have for that reason been extensively
used as testing grounds for GEOs by Northern multinationals.
Third World countries harbour the main centres of biological
diversity, where genetic pollution from GEOs can do the most
harm. Finally, the genetic engineering can make Southern export
crops such as banana and rice cold-resistant such that they can
be grown in the North.
However, industry pressure in the rich countries is
considerable.
After years of research and development, the gene-technology
industry is now reaching the stage of marketing of genetically
engineered crops. The industry estimates that the market for
genetically engineered crops and foods could reach $50-100
billion by the end of the decade.

"The vision of this booming market has created a competition for
market shares, where deregulation of biosafety standards seems to
become a more and more important factor", says Jesper Grolin,
Greenpeace political advisor, "The U.S. has so far been the
spearhead of deregulation of biosafety regulation. A key question
in Madrid will be whether the European countries will give in to
industry pressures to increase competitiveness at the expense of
nature and the protection of biodiversity". "

Source:http://archive.greenpeace.org/majordomo/index-oldgopher/9507/msg00050.html

Seems there was some testing of the waters:
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... stract/864

Testing biofilms:
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... tract/7390

Testing nanoparticles:
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... tract/7387

Carbon nanotube testing:
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... tract/7153

From aerosol propellent spraying?
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... tract/7383

human blood coagulation and nanoparticles:
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/ind ... tract/7902

Now, this I find very interesting:
Controlled Self-Assembly of Synthetic, Biologicaly Active Amphiphilic Molecules at Surface and Interfaces to Produce Multifunctional Specific Cell and Molecular Recognition


"BioDiscovery Tools

PROJECT DESCRIPTION
Nanomedicine holds great promise to develop targetable and specific drug delivery systems for chemotherapy and diagnostics. A new possibility is to be able to address the drug delivery vehicle from outside the body so as to trigger a drug release both spatially and temporally. We have developed a process to create polymer core/gold nanoshells that adsorb in the near infra-red using a polystyrene core functionalized with carboxylic acid. The strong adsorption in the NIR should make these useful as in vivo drug carriers, as tissue is relatively transparent to NIR light. An external pulse from a NIR laser can trigger drug release with control over both space and time. We are collaborating with C. Hawker’s group to create drug/polymer composite cores that can be triggered externally by NIR femtosecond laser pulses in vivo. The polymer core can incorporate various drugs that can be released by heating above the glass transition temperature of the polymer using the NIR light, or by using the heat from the pulse to quickly degrade the polymer to release the drug."

Ah, but go on link and see the picture, not carbon based, maybe not natural, but certainly not from outer space.
Source:http://www.icb.ucsb.edu/research/project_profile.php?ProjectID=41

And...here is a wonderful little competition here.
How many of you are involved in this?
http://parts.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Experimental biology and squid giant nerve fibers. Maybe part of the construct, Tam Tam?
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/208/2/179

Okay, back to the science that applies or doesn't

Skytroll

So, there just might be a lot going on in this big lovely world of ours.

Does anyone think that the fisheries have been altered?

Skytroll

[London]

Skytroll,

Thanks for answering my question on the scratches. I also had bruises and a rash. The bruises would migrate around. I saw most of them on my shoulder.

I liked your post above about the sponges!!!! I know they were used- you can't miss them when they leave the body!!! C'mon, every damn time-gimme a break
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As mayny of you know, I wrote on this forum about a month ago and said I had been banned from Lymebusters. I have not been back there to view one time- I can't, I'm banned!
Now, of course, I could've used someone elses computer, gone to a library computer or used a wireless one and bumped a connection via someone elses line, but I did not. Could care less about it. But today
someone emailed me something that I believe Gregg said.....

And I am here to set that damn record strate......As I stated.....they will all group together....even Friski!

Look at it this way, what the hell would I have to gain by publishing lies??? HUH?????
I'm not the one covering a man-made disease up! HAHA that is ridiculous.
My email said that he said that I used to email him all the time going around wispering this person is a spy, etc. Gregg, I have never in my life emailed you until 5 days ago when I was returing one of YOUR emails
to ME!!!!!
Now, I have written to you on past occasions (months and months back)
in answering your PMS to me....in one (and by the way, yes, I still have a copy of it if you would like me to refresh your memory, just ask; I will)

Now I don't know what else was said and frankly, I don't give a damn. I am just setting the record straighjt!

Also I still have not heard back from cliff, greema or south........wonder why that is?

People can decide for themselves. I could care less if you like me or not. The people that come back and slam people like myself and skytroll-the ones discovering the truth.......well they are the guilty ones!!!!

[London]

I think I now know why South said a couple of weeks back that he thought our disease would turn into ALS, Lupus, etc., Read this:


Antibiotics join arsenal of
treatments for Lyme mimics

Several recent studies have
documented the effectiveness of
antibiotics in treating neurologic
diseases, some of which have long
been thought to be autoimmune.
Although the mechanism of their
action is not yet known, research is
suggesting that antibiotics may be a
standard treatment approach in the
future for diseases that have, up to
now, no cure.
Infection with Borrelia burgdorferi,
the spirochete responsible for
Lyme disease, often involves the
central nervous system. Later stages
of the disease may mimic the clinical
symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis (MS),
Multiple Sclerosis
No one knows what causes MS.
Researchers have suggested it may
be triggered by various viral infections,
e.g. human herpesvirus 6,
rubella, measles, and by Chlamydia
pneumoniae. From 1909 until the
1950s many researchers considered
MS to have a spirochetal origin
because of its similarity to other
spirochetal diseases.
In a study published in 2001 in the
journal Annals of Neurology,
researchers tested minocycline, one
of the tetracycline family of antibiotics,
in rats with autoimmune encephalomyelitis,
a condition that mimics
MS.************

the rest talked more in detail about ALS, Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Huntington's Disease and Dementia......

So, if that is the case, then you mix that with this other disease we presently have, you know, the molecularly cloned one, well, we're in for a bumpy ride!!!!!

[London]

and I heard that Greema answered my question with a question or said something to the effect of "I can't find her post..." I'm sure you have by now though....and if not, what does that matter? You clearly saw where the title of that post said London wanted to get in touch with you.

also my email said that Greema posted soemthing/ photo showing a glass fiber.....

I agree wholeheartedly on that one!!! Because I saw them spiraling in the air of my home that weekend I came down with this man-made disease. those spirals pierced my skin and then elevated about 1/8th of an inch up from skin, where is sat it's pretty self on a pedastal. That is, until I dug it out.

I wrote that way backl.....! My goodness, that is how I got the fake cat looking scratches on my body!!!!!! thru these fiberglass flying objects! They are called CHAFFS AND THE MILITARY USES THEM ALL THE TIME
AND DROPS THEM OUT OF PLANES...... YES, I KNOW THAT THEY USE THEM AS A DEFENSE METHOD.....AND THAT IT SHIELDS THE ENEMY FROM VIEWING THEIR OWN PLANE!!!

But, I know that they practice these drills .....that is PRACTICE RUNS
quite often.....so it rains chaffs (the glass fibers) down upon my brethren!!!

the lil animals eat it, they drink it, and it's in our oceans.

Nothing new here!

[London]

skytrol, I found that article i told you I had...(re: flagellum) here you go:

Evolution in (Brownian) space:
a model for the origin of the bacterial flagellum
http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/flagellum.html

[London]

oh, I just got sent some more of some of you-guys nasty remarks about me at old slimebusters.....what a shame....both Carrie and Friski.too???

Friski, why did you not tell this to my face? why did you write me a PM saying that you sure were glad I was there?? HUH????????

I got a whole damn list to bust on some of your arses there! Want to to start posting them???

And, if the truth be known, you think I'd actually give you my best shot already? Then you are delusional. Say another thing about me and I start going down my list.

Oh, I'm thru when you're thu!
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to all: I just found this out today.....MEXICAN BEAN BEETLE do some searching on that instead of ragging on my butt.

and Carrie, If you see this....you cvan read about the Schistomiasis up above on one of my post.

and Gregg: Since you think I go around spreading rumors; why dont you dissect my post above...the scientific one, it does not lie.

But I heard a rumor just recently and It looks like its true......

All of you all are what we call in Self-destruct mode!

and don't think I don't know about the new site going up! I can't wait till you drag my name thru the mud there.....

but you gotta think smart! Just maybe another site in addition to that one is going up as well. HMMMM


The players in a mutualistic symbiosis: insects, bacteria, viruses, and virulence genes.

[tamtam]

Informative article:

NTI: Global Security Newswire
... chemical agents, obscurants, marking agents, dyes and inks, chaffs and flakes.” ... Hammond has asserted that US military-sponsored research on ...
http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2003/5/28/1s.html

[London]

Skytoll,
You asked if we knew about symbioses ? No, but I bet Lynn Margulis (University of Massachusetts, USA) does! And sky, from something you sent to me, I further learned: ants, now apparently associated with antibiotic-producing ... of zooxanthellae (Symbiodinium spp.) symbiotically associated with a ciliate, in this case Maristentor dinoferus