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Postby RANDY » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:41 am

For a year worked at Bed, Bath and Beyond and worked the evening shift because I was afraid to infect people and needed the exercise and health insurance. You do not always have health insurance when you work for yourself. This is not a secret.

I was not trying to discredit you in any way at all..that is being paranoid.

I do not work for the government. I was subcontractor for translation services. I was able to get a contract vai the Commerce Business Daily.

I do not work FOR the government or have their great health insurance or 401K plan. Subcontractors have no health insurance but their own and usually wait to get paid way past the time that people that actaully have a job for the government do..ever try getting paid on a government contract? So I still have no idea what you are talking about.

So..I have no idea what your rantings are about. I really do not.

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Postby RANDY » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:52 am

Also London,, you can get in touch with these people you want to talk to. I do not have their phone numbers or addresses. As I told you they call me.

So I have no idea why you think I have the holy grail of numbers..I am sure if you write to them they will or will not answer you.

Greema and all those guys have e-mail addresses. I could write them if I can find the addresses and ask them to write you but I can not hand them out and I do not even know if I have them..since I have not written to them in a while.

You could have written me on my private e-mail and requested their e-mail addresses if that is what you are asking for. Is that what you are asking for?

I would have to ask them if I could give them out if I could find them.

What make such a huge deal over nothing? I hardly even visit this site anymore. You have my rpivate e-mail, why make a huge production on this site and not write me via my e-mail and ask for thier e-mail addresses?

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Postby Barz » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:30 pm

People please do not ever contradict one of London's 700 brilliant posts on this board. If you do, we will have to read 20 more completely irrelevent posts accusing each of us of being guilty of something she googles. It puts a fear in me to never disagree with her. Why do we have 247 pages of crap on this board????? 700 posts take up a heck of alot of space. . . 58 pages to be exact.
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Postby Maggie Mae » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:10 pm

Total paranoia = total awareness.

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My side of this story.

Postby RANDY » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:13 am

I will say something here for those watching this forum that do not have this horrible disease that is actually in defense of London and her volumes of posts and paranoid accusations.

When you have something wrong with you, you go to a doctor and you hope that he will give you a pill or a cream and you will go home, cured.

But that is not the case. You are tired, you do not know why..you can't think straight and you imagine you are getting Alzheimer.

When you have this disease you go to a doctor and he tells you that you are doing this to yourself and that you are crazy. That hurts more than you could ever imagine. Most of us never go to doctors..never did until this struck us down.

You know you are not doing this to yourself but no doctor will listen. You try to prove your sanity by bringing in samples and trying to show the medical community what you are experiencing, even though you know it looks and sounds weird..but they are healers right???? And they look at you like you have three heads and all of them are ugly.

You were never really sick before or had your life depending on them but now you are needy and scared and you need them and they turn on you and call you crazy and tell you that you are making it up and doing it to yourself. "Doctor, do no harm" becomes a joke.

So you feel alone, desperate, and your ego is crushed because you have gross looking lesions that will not heal all over you body in places where people can see them and stare at them and some itch and you can not get any sleep and you notice that people itch when they are near you and being a good person you do not want to infect anyone and you isolate yourself and you give up hugging people.

Most people I talk to are the ones that others had gone to for support. For the first time in their lives they need others and NO ONE is there. It is an awakening experience. It saddens your heart and you plunge into depression. Have I been so blind all my life to think that I had friends and family that actually cared about me?

You decide to be an activist..no more sitting around crying for yourself, so you get a microscope. YOU SEE the fibers in your wounds..you see the little round black poops in your skin and the smokey cylinder things that look like hairs yet are not....YOU SEE THEM AND REJOICE cuz if you see them so will the doctors and that support group you thought you had that just headed for the hills ..now will come back and apologize......you can call them back now cuz you have PROOF!

Yet you can not get anyone to believe. No one will even take a look. No one cares.

You are too tired to work, but have a mortgage to pay. You are depressed because you feel that you are alone in this world and lost in your personal twilight zone and you actually go through the stages of accepting the death of the old you. (Not realizing there is a birth of a stronger you on the horizon.)

This includes anger. You get angry. At everyone and everything! You try to make your world make sense. Since no one will help you, you will help yourself by becoming SMART! You search the Internet day and night for anything that will help you make sense of it all. You build up volumes of information and know more about nothing than anyone else you know.

Then there are the opportunist that say they can help you for thousands of dollars. That they have a cure, that they have a VIDEO, that they know what it is but are not telling you..and you get really mad!

And in my case, you try to warn people of these people. But no one listens..they just pick on you and tell you that you are nasty and cruel and the world gets a bit crazier. These are suppose to be you support group and they have turned on you and all you are doing is trying to help.

Have I died and gone to hell? So you give up trying to help..but it is your nature.

Then you realize that maybe since no one will listened to you, since you do not know how things really work like the CDC and NIH, that there must be a conspiracy, or that you have been taken by aliens, or that this is a new plague and this is the end of the world, maybe chemtrails, dental filling, bacteria, fungus, bugs..bacteriophage......ANYTING BUT NOTHING!! Let it be anything. PLEASE!

Maybe...since you have always been a good person, that G-d has given you an immunity to bird flu........and the list goes on and on.

WHAT THE HELL COULD IT BE? And the itching and lesions continue and the cures keep coming up and they work for a while and then they stop. You have more spices and herbs and meds than most pharmacies.

You rub on oil, take mud baths, use grandmas and grandpas cure, drink silver and gold and platinum, bathe in bug spray, rub yourself with gasoline, buy bug zappers for inside your home, cleanse your colon, change your diet, throw out your old bed, buy new sheets, and you live like MONK. But the lesions keep coming and the itching and the biting and you sink into a semi-depression cuz you know you have to build up your immune system and fight this and depression does not help you do that.

Then CNN does a special and you figure..NOW.NOW THE WORLD WILL HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. And nothing happens.....and you wonder why?

And then if you are not a strong person, or you drink or do drugs you sink, lower and lower and lower until you crack up. And hopefully someone will throw you a life line, but how can they when you keep biting the rope?

So some kill themselves, some drink more and do drugs more, some chose to forget they have it and carry on with their lives and others fall into a deep depression. Some lose their families, have their kids taken from them cuz the doctor thinks you are doing this to your child, husbands and wives leave you and your family does not want to hear one more thing about this F-'d up disease. They need you and you are not there for them and they get mad a you?

And you are alone, scared, thinking you are going to die, without a job, without money, without love, without the ability to get disability and then, to add insult to injury......a heartless Internet site states how what you have is BULL and the hurt starts all over again.

You have to have the strength of a Saint to survive and you are only human.

So that is our lives. That is our private hell. That is what cracks up people like London and that is what we have to deal with every waking moment of our day.

May we have the strength to carry on. May we have the money for research and may G-d bless us with scientists that care and protect us from the villains and opportunists.

Amen and G-d bless.

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Postby in_the_uk » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:53 am

Well said Randy.

With regard to your stance on those who seek to profit, in any way, from this condition I am in support of your condemnation of them.

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Postby Doc44 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:55 pm

Randy,

You told it exactly the way it is in the life of a Morgellons sufferer; medical experience, family reaction, job, finances, and even their thoughts in fear, hope, and the fortitude of some. Well done. You should share this with other boards and sites. Maybe they will leave your podium out for a while. :)

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Postby Barz » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:13 pm

Thank you for saying exactly what it is like for us. This should be printed out and taken on doctor's appointments. Maybe if they knew all the ways we suffer, things would be a little different. When you only have 5 minutes with your doctor, you try to explain your symptoms - WITHOUT SOUNDING CRAZY.
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Postby 1arrow » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:43 pm

I have been watching and learning about Morgellons for only a few months now but it is quite clear to me the suffering that this brings. I wish to learn all I can because I do think it is the next HIV that the world is ignoring that is happening now perhaps to many more thousands, perhaps millions more than we know about.

As a nurse and an alternative health care advocate I see the potential realties down the road, realities that those with morgellons I am sure, have well thought out. I talk about morgellons now where ever I go and to whomever I meet. I make enquireries in foriegn countries and amongst other alternative practitioners. Whatever stone comes my way I turn it over for a look to see what I can find.

I understand that this disease is just a touch away from someone I know and love. I worry now everytime my husband goes to Seattle on business trips due to reports that hotels there may have it.

Actually we need many many more people thinking and worrying about morgellons than we have now. So many of you post here continously. Why condense your energy to this site?

I might suggest that you significantly broaden your horizon if you can in communication. Write basic form letters and post them on as many sites as you can find. Then be prepared to answer questions. The public must become more aware. Put your letters on every site you can find, even if the site is dedicated to baking cupcakes, after all some mother who just baked her kid cupcakes might be observing a strange rash on her child.

Send your form letters to hotels, all government agencies, all hospitals, all public reacational facilities, all healthfood stores, all doctors offices, all websites you can find, all gradeschools including their nursing offices, all Universities and all their departments, all news reporters, all news channels, in all rags, local, national, international, all famous people, national and international. If Ophra received 10,000 letters perhaps she would not continue to ignore it.

If you had 1,000 people with Morgellons doing this every day, just going through the web, going through their phone book, and newpapers posting to every email addresss they could find you would get attention. I guarantee. You MUST make the public affraid!

Of course fear is a double edges sword but in our country it is what really motivates people. People, all people must know the truth and we have the right to know the truth. You are the ones who can provide it to us, those who do not know or understand Morgellons.

London, I do not mind your posts. I think If I had this conditon my mind would be in shreads by now. Keep posting. Keep talking. Keep expressing your fears no matter how real or unreal. It would be good if more of you spent more time acknowledging each others pain and anger and frustration.

I remember a while back London posted a clear warning on her thoughts of suicide and not one response, not one acknowledgement to her that someone cares! What is this callousness about? You have such a horrible state of affairs. Why can you not more fully open your hearts to each other?

I am going to post a letter I found on another forum. If you can't manage to write your own forward this one. But it is better to write your own. Do it soon. Do it now. If you don't shake up the people of this country, of the world, you will never find your cure. I think that if more people knew you would have a better chance of help and survival in the long run.

You have the disease, you have the voice that counts. Use it.
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Postby 1arrow » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:04 pm

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January 6, 2003 http://www.curezone.com/forums/mp.asp?f=315&i=473

To Whom It May Concern:

There is something horrible going on in America and I, and thousands of other people, want to know what is causing this.

If you have not heard of the following organizations, please look them up on the Internet:

Morgellons Skin Pathogen Organization
The National Unidentified Skin Parasites Association Elliot's Disease at The Comfort Zone

Please also read Dr. Omar Amin's article entitled, ”Neuro-Cutaneous Syndrome - A New Disorder,” where he describes skin lesions with fibers and even insect parts inside them. Dr. Amin is a noted parasitologist.

Please also look up skin infestations with Rotifera in Romania. You will find studies by an award-winning doctor.

You could also check with The National Institute of Mental Health and see how many new cases of “delusional parasitosis”: they are getting; many people with this disease are wrongly being told that they are delusional.

Fox TV ran a show entitled, “Mystery Disease,” when a New Hampshire doctor got in touch with them about a patient of his who had received detestable medical treatment from other doctors.

You might also check on Oakville, Washington where it supposedly rained
jellyfish blown up by the navy for weeks, a substance which contained human DNA.

Are we really expected to believe that thousands of people, in all walks of
life, in all parts of the country, are suffering from the same delusion and
mutilating their skin into the exact same lesions somehow? Are we to believe that all of these people are finding a way to cause themselves chronic diarrhea, visual deterioration, neurological problems, hair loss and more? Are we to believe that these people, some of whom are medical professionals, legal professionals and scientists themselves, are also doing this to their kids and their pets? Are we to believe that they are also finding a way to infest their own food and water with living organisms that only they know about, as no “expert” or doctor seems to be able to identify them?

I have had this disease for years. So have my cold-blooded and warm-blooded pets; they did not cause this but many of them have died from it. Veterinarians cannot identify it. Reptile vets and experts cannot identify it.

In 1998 I had a rash on my thighs and severe diarrhea. I called my doctor's office and asked if they thought it could be scabies, although scabies does not cause diarrhea, which I had been having. They did not want me to come to the office.

I was prescribed Permethrin, over the phone.

When I used it, the rash got worse.

When I called the doctor's office again, I was told to use the Permethrin
again. This time, the rash turned into skin cysts that erupted into lesions. I saw tiny white particles coming up through my skin through the Permethrin.

The lesions resembled those seen in several serious parasitic illnesses.
These same lesions are covering thousands of Americans right now.

The itching, burning and stinging from these is the worst thing I have ever
experienced.

It is so terrible that one is tempted to cut them out, which I am sure that
many people have actually done, and then were accused of mutilating themselves.

If you have not felt this, you could not possibly understand the absolute
torture of it.

I finally got into the doctor's office.
He did now know what was wrong with me

When I asked if it could be cutaneous larva migrans or schistosomiasis, he didnot think so.

His nurse, who I heard tell him that she did not know how to do skin scrapings, took skin scrapings at my insistence.

When I told her that she needed to do more than lightly rub the slide over the skin, and needed to get what was in the lesions, she got irritated. An oriental young woman was with the doctor. I do not know whether she was a lab tech or what her position was. She examined the skin scrapings and came back and said that I had worms in my skin. The doctor said that they were skin cells.

When I asked him how hundreds of skin cells would all rise up through my skin when I spread the Permethrin on, he said skin cells are like that.

Shortly after this, when I was out of the office at work one day, I had several calls from a “foreign-sounding” woman who would not leave her name. I have always wondered if it was the woman who was with the doctor, wanting to tell me something, but she did not call back.

I insisted that the doctor run stool tests. He ordered a four-day series but
did not test me for Giardia or Crypto (interestingly, a local dairy was fined
for contaminating area water with these very things). The local hospital lab
ran the tests for two days and refused to finish them , telling me that as they had not yet found anything, nothing was there. When I told them that I had read that some parasites do not show up in every run and they needed to finish them, they would not.

The doctor did not question this.

The stool tests that were done did not include any direct fecal smears; they
only did the ones where stool is mixed with various chemicals, which can
destroy many parasites.

The doctor prescribed Ultravate skin cream, which made it worse. He gave me Erythromycin, which did not help.

In his notes, which I recently acquired, he noted that I might have factitious
disorder and underlying bipolar disorder.

When I got my medical records from him, he did not include the actual copies of lab reports regarding the stool tests or the tests for Schistosomiasis, which I had insisted he do and which I was told were negative.

I developed problems with my toes. At night, they would turn almost black or get dark red and split open, bleeding. They had what looked like tiny fibers all over them. The pain was terrible. One doctor thought it was athlete's foot and prescribed Griseofulvin. This made it worse.

I went to a podiatrist, who said that the first doctor was nuts and that it was frostbite. I had had this since the middle of summer.

I sought still another opinion.

This doctor flat-out refused to examine me and would not look at my lesions, although I begged him in tears to examine me. I also asked him to look at my tongue, which had developed a deep slit in it, was fuzzy, had ragged edges with what looked like coils under the skin, and was bleeding. He refused to look at it. I left his office angry and very confused at his reaction.

He then called the Sunnyside Mental Health agency and told them that I was mutilating myself; they called me and I was furious but I tried to explain what was going on.

I went to an ear, nose and throat specialist, because my ears had gotten all scabby inside, were bleeding and itched badly; he did not know what was wrong but told me to put vinegar and oil in my ears and wait until winter.

This doctor also witnessed a gaping hole in the left side of my neck. I had had a small mole for years that suddenly grew to three times its normal size and fell off, leaving this hole. He wanted to know what was beneath the bandaid on my neck and I showed him. He asked if it oozed and I told him that it did not. This eventually closed up and I now have another small brown mole there.

I saw a naturopathic doctor who said that I had very thin skin.. She prescribed an herbal mix to drink and, for the skin, a paste of bentonite clay and goldenseal, which she said would draw the organisms out and dry then up. This did help some. I finally got so desperate, after many months of these lesions, that I dosed myself with pyrantel pamoate (antiparasitic medicine). The lesions immediately began to clear up and went away, leaving scars, but the other symptoms did not disappear.

I noticed that a local company that sells in-home water systems, Sunnyside Soft Water Systems, said, in their advertisement, in “The Home Reporter” in big, bold letters, “GETS RID OF HAIRS IN YOUR WATER”.

When I tried to pin them down on what this meant, they would not tell me.

I recently visited them again. They were much more interested in trying to sell me a water system than in the fact that thousands of people are ill and finally told me that they do not know what the hairs are but their system will keep them out.

When this happened, I had been working in programming for developmentally disabled adults for twelve years at a company where I had worked in some capacity since 1982.

I was not considered delusional or hysterical by anyone. My dad was a
pharmacist and my mom an English teacher, and I am an educated person.

I came to Washington from Western New York in 1981 and have progressively gotten sicker with strange symptoms since then. There are, however, now people in New York and every state reporting this disease. There are even people in Ireland, the U.K., Greenland and the Netherlands with this disease.

There are at least eight people in Washington registered with Morgellons, one of the organizations studying this. There are many more who are not registered, in my area, which is an agricultural area with lots of dairies, feedlots and the accompanying flies and stench. It has been proven in court that the animal waste sprayed into waste fields can travel airborne up to five miles (Bosma Dairy lawsuit)

The waste from waste fields here has been found to contain Giardia, E. Coli, salmonella, Crypto and four types of intestinal parasites.

There are many people using animal medications, out of desperation, because they are so sick and are getting not only no help from doctors, but are treated with outright hostility.

It seems as though the only prescription drug that people with these symptoms can get from doctors and dermatologists are antipsychotic medicines such as Orap. These drugs are prescribed for delusional parasitosis, even though their manufacturers do not recommend them for this condition, and the physical symptoms are not addressed overtly (note that these medicines contain drugs in the benzimidazole family, many of which are anthelmintic and fungiostatic).

There are many symptoms in addition to the skin lesions, including visual
deterioration, diarrhea, bowel and bladder leakage, lumps under the skin, hair loss, rapid tooth decay and loss of teeth, unexplained bleeding in the skin and mouth, loss of body hair and eye lashes and eye brows, strange hair growth, nasal growths and other problems, problems in the ears, similar or identical strange-looking items being discharged from the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, vagina, anus and skin. There are also neurological problems and problems with concentration, etc. which doctors can easily use to diagnose a mental illness where there is not one.

Many of the lesions have what appears to be hair or fiber in them, as well as tiny white, moist particles, all having the same texture and shape. The skinlesions, when certain substances are applied, eject the hairs, fibers, blackspecks, white specks, what look like tiny white worms, and what look like insects.

There is an article written by a parasitologist, Dr. Omar Amin, entitled,
“Neurocutaneous Syndrome (NCS) - A New Disorder,” where he describes skin lesions containing fibers and insect parts.

There is also research being done on a so far undiagnosed illness involving
skin lesions under the terms, “Scleromyxoedema-like cutaneous diseases,”
“Scleromyxedema-like fibromucinosis,” and “Nephrogenic fibrosing dermopathy”.

There is obviously more than one thing at work here.

We have Onchocerca Americanus here now.

Some people have been diagnosed, in America with Onchocerca, myiasis,
Collembola and Rotifera in the skin, unidentified nematodes in the skin and unusual unidentified fungal infections.

Many people are now testing positive for chronic lyme disease, which can cause almost every symptom you can imagine and which can require long, expensive treatment which insurance companies do not want to pay for.

Many standard tests for lyme disease are inaccurate.

Many communities do not want it publicized that lyme disease is occurring
because it hurts tourism.

Strains of lyme not included in the CDC's list have been found in people; if
these strains are not tested for, they will not be found.

As the many, many people with similar symptoms have such a variety of exposures to different things, the common denominator could be insects, water or even our food.

Chlorine does not kill these organisms. Many people have applied many
substances to try and get rid of these, and the only partial success has been with anthelmintic and antifungal medications.

Interestingly, many people have developed increased symptoms when their doctors told them that they had scabies and prescribed medication for this - none of these people were actually examined using a wood's light or other apparatus that would make scabies identification definite.

The skin lesions have a very striking and characteristic look. They feel and
behave in the same way in all of us who have them. We all find the same things in them and coming out of them. We also find the same things in our nasal secretions, ears, and feces.

I removed two organisms from my feces that I kept alive in a moist container for two weeks. When I put them in, I put them on the bottom. They eventually climbed up the sides. They are shaped like a rounded triangle with a slit in the bottom. The underside looks like the underside of a snail or slug. They have a little “foot” they can extend at one side of their bottom. After two weeks, fine white filaments filled with black specks appeared on them. These filaments then grew into larger white and black filaments with black balls at their end (at 400x). They appear to be fungal so maybe there is a fungus with the parasite. These are the same “fibers” which are coming out of people's skin.

Tonight I took an apple out of my fridge. It had a large black oval-shaped spot and a hole with puckering around it. It reminded me of the skin lesions. I put thiabendazole on it and watched the skin pucker more and then tiny fibers with balls at their tips emerged from the apple. I have found things in store-bought meat that are the same shape as some of the organisms people are finding in their stool. They have fibers in them. I have opened Minute Maid orange juice concentrate, with oranges from Florida and Brazil, and found many tiny fibers in the liquid. I have removed thin sections from the skin of oranges with this characteristic shape (like a lesion in the orange skin) and observed the sameorganisms that all these other people are describing as coming out of them. I have found these things clinging to the inside walls of my fridge. Under a magnifying glass or microscope, they are all the same.

There appears to be, as I said, several things going on or one thing with very different developmental stages. These organisms behave partly like a worm, partly like a fungus. They are very strange looking. Many of the ones from the holes in the skin lesions are white and moist, they have a scalloped edge on what appears to be the top, a head-like appendage that extends on a neck from the main body, and a pointed prong or tail at the other end. They remind me somewhat of an acanthocephalan worm (which, by the way, have been found in canned tuna and other fish).

These organisms, whatever they are, when put in a mix of a antiparasitic
medicine and water or oil, can sometimes be observed to be slowly moving
through the liquid, as if trying to get out of it.

I have found these things clinging on the inside of my toilet, after I have
flushed and cleaned it and ascertained that nothing was there. One of the ones from my stool would have covered a quarter and was the characteristic rounded triangular shape with the bottom slit and foot. It was grotesque.

Many, many people have written their local health departments and other
agencies that are supposed to be concerned with the health of citizens, and it is astounding to me how many people are not interested, say they think this is awful but it is not their department, or answer with some other bland patronizing attitude.

In response to my letter of concern regarding my skin lesions, diarrhea andother symptoms, the CDC responded that they did not deal with “skin,” and directed me to the NIH/NIMH.

There are also documented cases of humans being parasitized by Gordian worms, which are not generally considered pests and for which no elimination methods are used.

These worms can cause intestinal and tissue damage.

There are organisms being created through the use of trans genics; they have combined a nematode worm with a fungus, to be used for agricultural purposes.

A nematode has been combined with a fiber.

They are making spider silk in goat's milk.

You would not believe what “they” are doing.

The reduction and elimination of the use of organophosphates has resulted in many organisms not being destroyed that once were.

Biologicals are a big industry.

How do we know that some of the organisms being used and created for use in agriculture, in insect control and the textile industry, to name a few, are not able to not only survive in us, but thrive?

The use of antibiotics in feed animals has resulted in many “superorganisms” that have incredible resistance to medications used to control parasites and other disease-causing organisms.

The military has “weaponized” many organisms.

The suffering that so many people are enduring makes a mockery of our medical system. Doctors should be screaming that they want their patients diagnosed and treated for this. Scientists should be clamoring to investigate it. Health
departments should be on the doorstep of everyone who calls them. People have died from complications resulting from this.

A woman named Sue, with a husband and children, at forty plus years of age, with lesions all over her body, died when her heart stopped after developing E. coli and staph in a nursing home. She was there for hip surgery related to a bacterial infection, they say. Those of us with this disease and the knowledge of it know it killed her or greatly contributed to her death.

A man named Elliot with this finally killed himself; he could no longer take
the pain of the disease and the disdain of the doctors.

An R.N. in Tennesee who worked in Public Health for thirty years came down with this and received the same treatment that most people get, and was told to take Orap for delusional parasitosis.

She had skin lesions, had lost all of her hair, was losing her vision and
having neurological problems.

She ended up at a psychiatrist's and he was furious with the treatment she had gotten.

He ordered MRI's and other tests.

The MRI's showed lesions in the white matter of her brain.

Eye tests showed unidentified particles in her eyes (she was almost blind by this time).

She had to go all the way to Texas to find a doctor who would help her and has now been diagnosed with chronic lyme disease, which has gone through her entire system.

It is detestable that all of us with this have had to buy microscopes, learn
about parasites and other diseases that “do not occur in our country”, learn
about the engineering of organisms and all of the other related activities for
profit, while the professionals wheel and deal and take in their money. We have had to learn about “Neuro worm,” a synthetic, chemically engineered organism, made in Germany, capable of exhibiting behavior, reproducing sexually and asexually, and being programmed for medical tasks. They do not know whether it has consciousness.

Thousands of us can talk about this together and know exactly what each is talking about. The doctors look at us with bemused or irritated expressions when we come to them with something less ordinary than a cold or flu they can diagnose and write a prescription for in ten minutes or less.

The people who belong to the organizations I listed have a lot of very
first-hand knowledge of this. We have many specimens but are at a loss as to where to send them to find someone who cares.

I have personally talked with microbiologists who have been threatened with the loss of their jobs if they talk about this.

I have talked with people in labs who have been ordered to lie about specimens or to destroy them.

Some of the people researching this have received death threats.

This is not an isolated problem that will go away. These organisms are
permeating everything. They even get into fabric and cause clothing to shred and become deteriorated at an alarming rate. If this sounds impossible, read about the military's use of nematode worms that could “eat” enemy pavement and concrete. They were supposed to destroy enemy territory. Unfortunately, one cannot tell a worm to only eat the enemy's property. Project scrapped.

These organisms can encyst and survive in a dry state for a very long time; they are not killed by boiling, microwaving, crushing, freezing or being given such things as Sevin, Drano, Lime Away, bleach and much more.

People who worry about the future need to realize that it has been here for a long time.

While many doctors and others who work supposedly for the public good sit someplace as I write this, complacent and self-satisfied, financially more than comfortable and with egos intact, thousands sit crying, wondering whether they can go on another day or night because they are so sick.

Thousands of people as you read this feel as if there are hundreds of wasps stinging them all over their bodies; thousands of people are having up to their tenth course of diarrhea for the day; thousands of people cannot read or even watch tv because their sight is going; thousands of people have no hair on their heads.

If you are reading this late at night, say, around midnight, know that there
are many, many people shopping at all-night stores because their faces are so disfigured by lesions that they do not want any more people to see them than necessary.

While you sit with your families, know that many people sit alone because their own families are afraid to be near them and catch whatever this is or because they make their families stay away so as not to give it to them.

If you are a veterinarian in your local feed store buying supplies, the person next to you buying Ivermectin for horses might be buying it for themself because, in spite of the fact that their doctor cannot or will not diagnose or treat them, and in spite of the fact that they have begged their doctor for parasitic medicine, they have been told that “we do not have parasites in this country” or that they are delusional.

As you read this in your warm and safe home, know that people are receiving foreclosure notices because they are too sick to work and, without a diagnosis cannot get disability or financial aid.

As you go forth in the world with confidence and self-esteem intact, know that many, many people venture out in shame because they are disfigured and sick, and have been told that they are delusional while continuing to suffer from all too real physical symptoms caused by a disease that does not exist in America.

Then think about the news stories concerning biological warfare and Cloning and the environment. Think about the fact that many environmental pollutants are tiny and spore-like and that the ash from Mt. St. Helen's traveled around the world three times. Think about the garbage, filled with living organisms, floating in waters that eventually merge. Think about the big pharmaceutical companies and large health agencies here in American who have experimented and purposefully caused diseases, for which the drug companies then develop cures and are applauded for their humanitarianism (see mycoplasma experiments, Merck, CDC and NIH by the Scott brothers, Canada). Think about the fact that when large numbers of feed animals are crowded together in huge feedlots, infection and parasites increase, as do flies who carry disease and waste that travels as dust through the air you breathe.

Would you be surprised to read that many diseases, such as M.S. and Aids, can be caused on purpose? Would you be upset that a simple tribe ofpeople living in Hawaii (the Fior) were experimented on and almost wiped out , and then when their disease was “discovered” someone involved in causing the disease won a Nobel Peace prize for their work on this? These people were given the equivalent of mad cow disease and the brains of 65% of them turned to mush. There is now mad deer disease, mad elk disease and more.

There is research being done. There are still a few people in America who give a damn. The hordes of people who are suffering with this will not quit or give in and die off. We will keep writing to our officials and to anyone else we can think of. We will organize and put pressure on where it is needed.

There is an old song, “Someone is Crying to be Heard” (Traffic).

Somebody had better start listening.


Cathy McDonald
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Postby Cilla » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:11 pm

Hi All,

In my opinion, Tam tam is a scientific genius, and is furthermore a wonderfully good and kind person to have related all of the information that he has, which has illuminated the nature of this condition.

Without him, I do not think that very many people would have thought of genetic modification being at the roots of the likely aetiology of Morgellons disease.

Others have hypothesised thus, but only Tam tam brought this into clear and convincing focus, when he related exactly what the components of the cloned mix are.

He has merely advised those who think that they may have this condition to request that certain drugs be prescribed by their medical practitioner. This the doctor should only do after performing a thorough examination of the patient, and only if he or she concludes that a suggested drug would be clinically indicated.

As has been noted, some doctors do indeed concur that certain drugs would help prevent, and ideally stop, the growth of dermatophytes in a given infection.

Skytroll, Tam tam told you, when you described the indicative pattern under your skin, to research apical growth. I advised you to do this with respect to dermatophytosis. I think that this would be a much more prudent subject for detailed research, which would be pertinent to what you apparently have. You could then see a doctor for possible systemic antifungal treatment, and you could buy some topical remedies over the counter, under the advice of your pharmacist.

London, if you are fit and willing to go to San Francisco so readily, would you not consider becoming a patient of Ginger Savely, the Nurse Practitioner who specialises in treating this disease? I am very impressed with this professional's accounts of how she treats this condition.

It is so important to have the range of drugs required prescribed by a competent professional who also performs the requisite clinical laboratory tests, ensuring that the patient's blood count, e.g., remains within normal limits.

These drugs are not sweets, and it would seem that the professionals involved in treating this condition have to draw from a range of different drugs in order to treat the different elements of it.

If you have to pay a registered health care professional for this, I would say that it is money well spent, because the last thing you want is for it to become more 'embedded' in your skin.

If it were me, I would sell anything I had, including my house, if this was the only way to get this specialist diagnosing, (always remember, it may not be Morgellons disease), and subsequent suitable treatment.

An independent scientist has found a plant gene on the skin of some people suffering from Morgellons.

Some of you maintain that feathers have grown out of infected tissue, (the weirdest clinical feature of the lot, if true, i.e. you are not mistaken).

Some of you have witnessed small flies emerging from the lesions.

Have any of you submitted these for entomological analysis? Which species was identified? This is important. If you do a 'clap kill' with your hands, (enough to kill it, but not to squash it entirely), you could have this done.

If you have observed this phenomenon, together with the other very strange clinical features, I have the greatest difficulty in understanding why you do not embrace Tam tam's theories more wholeheartedly.

Who else has explained the red and blue fibers? If they are a result of the lepidoptera being part of the cloned 'borg', much more in the way of specific assessment and specific treatment has to be taken into account by the professionals themselves. Some topical treatments might work.

Quite independently, Dr Amin has attested to the fact that a live caterpillar, from this species, was but one of the insects extracted from an afflicted woman's scalp lesions.

Why does the small greyish fiber, (the fibers are not homogeneous, and should not be 'lumped together', if you wish to understand them, and to research how to kill them), the only one still to show life when removed from a lesion, characteristically undulating like a cobra, and exhibiting purposeful movement towards, e.g. a finger, not undulate, but convulse and immediately die in response to certain medication that acts against the specific neuromuscular junctions of the class insecta? What does this suggest to you? That it is a worm, a fiber, an insect, or some kind of weird clone?

People have asserted to the periodically awful smells that can surround the (different) fibers, particularly when one group is dying in response to treatment. NB, they do not like the smell of peppermint oil, but it is crucial that you do not let this get anywhere near sensitive areas, such as the eye. Your local pharmacist or chemist can give you further information, and advice on how to 'mask' the eye as a further precaution. They will tell you not to use on children.

Most experts in the field maintain that antibiotics are necessary in the treatment of this condition.

I have no earthly idea of how much proof you would need to see that Tam tam's theories must be true, given the corroboration of independent experts, as mentioned supra.

Furthermore, how can he know that the areas of infection within the skin become darker coloured when responding to treatment, (systemic and topical), unless he does indeed know and understand this condition?

Whatever way you cut it, the mere existence of this condition means that something very strange is going on.

None of you say very much at all about the callus, or about Cliff Mickelson's writing, in detail.

He too has been in contact with a scientist who seems to view the genetic modification theory as an extremely high possibility. Why do you not discuss how the infection starts, (hair follicle, yet more corroboration), and give a lot more attention to the role and function of the various macro and micro fibers?

The fluke shaped pieces of skin, the orchestrated hardening of these into the rock hard callus, the experiments (and excellent photographs thereof) done by Cliff and Geema to the extracted callus are truly earth shattering.

You should be researching all of this, in detail, (to my mind), and perhaps not exhausting yourself by trawling huge subjects that may, for the moment, only have a tenuous relationship to your condition. Time may prove differently, but I think that you should get back to basics, and apply deductive logic.

E.g. if a, b, and c are required, in the right amount, and at the right time, in order for the different stages within caterpillar maturation to occur, is there anything that scientists could develop to block this, and which would also be safe for humans to apply topically (on the skin)?

How did Dr Amin treat, (i.e. remove), the many strange unidentifiable fibers on his patients skin? I do not just mean the holistic dentistry. This gentleman is a top parasitologist. Read every word written by him, and see if some of the logic would apply to your situation. How do you think he removed the callus?

You are never going to be fully well, according to Dr Amin, if you have any sort of foreign body (such as a group of unidentifiable fibers)embedded in your skin and tissue, so read about how the experts remove them, and consult a suitable professional to do the same.

Research also into the product developed by scientists in Australia or New Zealand whereby fly larvae and eggs will show up under ultraviolet light. Other immature insect parts would probably fluoresce in a similar manner. Get this, and then have a doctor see the results. This would probably be much more effective than the hackneyed match box test, and altogether more convincing than home photographs or videos, which, sadly they would not seem to take fully on board.
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