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Postby ukguy » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:41 am

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Postby RANDY » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:16 am

SOME NEW NEWS.

Those with lesions. Try and place some Blistex on them and report back after 48 hours.

Camphor. Phenol and Menthol in combination with each other works better than just Gold Bond alone.

Please those with lesions rub a little bit of Blistex on your lesions and get back to me.

Thanks!

Someone has tried this and his lesions are peeling off.

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Postby London » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:53 am

rANDY i DID THAT A WHILE BACK> COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO i THINK SOMEONE HAD POSTED IT. iT DID GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WROTE IN. mE? i COULD NOT TELL A DIFFERENCE ON THESE MINI-ROCKS UNDER THE SKIN ON FOREARM.....

gOD THEY HURT TO TREMOVE.....THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR NEARLY 5 MONTHS NOW (CHRISTMAS) SO

THAT'S NOT BAD IS IT?

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Postby RANDY » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:11 am

Someone already mentioned it? I thought I was being original. It peels off teh really roght scabs that the Gold Bond allows to heal. Usually they are moist and come off and never, ever heal. The Gold Bond actually dries them so they start acting like regular boo-boos (for lack of a better word) and then the blistex peels off the hard scab and tons of little pebbles under the scab and then heals the skin underneath. This happens so fast it will knock your socks off.

If you have bumps under the skin without lesions, perhaps you need internal stuff like Lamasil, Flagyl or an antibiotic to work internally first.

Wish I could help more.
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Postby Sabrina » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:38 am

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Postby London » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:46 am

Randy, I will try it again. But i use campor a lot for the smell supposedley repels bugs......

no , my arm sesions are dry but they are in what I call a biofilm of layers that has crystalized. I have taken off I bet 6 or 7 layers.....then there are still some further under that....... but , I left the arm alone for two or three weeks and what did it so.....you know everyone that saw me said ohh, you should leave that alone....so i did.

Well, it just spread!!!!! thanks for the tip. Randy, what about the photos in that article a couple of pages back that these insects caused??? did you see it??? It looked just like the photos that you posted of your friends cheek.
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Postby Barz » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:02 pm

John Kern,

I believe you to be a complete fraud. People, please do not give into this. Did you see how quickly he posted after Tam? Tam is right. How quickly the leaves turn.

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Postby ukguy » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:47 pm

Can the next person waiting to be knocked down please take the chair ......
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Postby Cilla » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:45 pm

Hi Carriescamp,

Of course you were not offensive to me.

I have read of some greyish fiber (more than once) that people with this disease, or who think that they may have this condition, have described as moving in this fashion, even after being removed from the lesions.

They have noticed this because all the other fibers that they have removed do not move autonomously thereafter. The people concerned have definitely all said that it moved towards flesh, (e.g. their finger), and possibly towards artificial light. This is weird.

However, if none of you have ever either seen this for yourselves, or even read about it, I think we should just forget it. Maybe those who asserted this on other sites are wrong. I'll pass this fact on.

This is exactly the best way to proceed, i.e. ruling out the things that would appear to be false. That way, we can concentrate on what is left, i.e. that which is verifiable as statistically significant symptoms, experienced by a lot of you. I think that this may be what John is getting at, with his emphasis on statistics.

Hyphae.

If you read any article on human tinea infections you will see that hyphae are clinically visible. Maybe John would be kind enough to expand more on his return.

Same (Unrecognised) Illness Throughout the Centuries.

Do you believe that this disease is the very same Morgellon's disease of old, and that doctors have a. recognised it initially and b. stopped recognising it and c. are still not doing so?

If so, do you also believe that patients of old, (and it was often the mothers of children affected who noticed, and who would remove the wyrms or hairs from the child's skin by rubbing it with a hand moistened by milk from the pail, in the evening sunlight), a. recognised it initially, b. stopped recognising it, until hundreds of years later, whereupon c. some now do, while others are still not doing so?

Double Curtsying.

This would only be necessary if you were asked to meet the British Royal Family! Even then, a single one would more than suffice.

Stuffed Shirt Consultants of the Old British School.

What they like is deference, they ask the questions, the patient supplies the answers. Once they are scientifically interested enough, and believe that, this time, (for the first time in their clinical career), the hoof beats on the plains of Arizona are not only exotic striped zebras, but a veritable herd of flashing scarlet elephants with bright yellow bows and ringing bells on, everything will change.

First you have got to hook them.

I've told you all before that the insults and libel will preclude them even appearing.

You cannot hook someone who has walked away.

Hi Sky,

I never thought you were using me as a scapegoat. I do not have a vast unending horde of medical specialists and scientists to call on.

That is really rather the whole sad, even to the stage of being elegiac, point.

However, that is not to say that no-one else has similar access. I dearly hope so. Bring them on!

I also think that you have to focus more on the rodents, perhaps in relation to what Dr. Wymore meant in his review of Tam tam's video. Not just a 'rush through' remark about rodent fleas. What exactly was Dr. Wymore suggesting?

Then, perhaps in relation to the above, if, as Tam tam states, the lepidoptera are involved, (study video evidence, and Tam tam's prose), pay far more attention to a. lepidopterism and b. the 'like' conditions that Tam tam states this infection can result in.

If, as Tam tam has stated, the infection is as a result of a stray target, from what kind of tissue (precisely) might this have taken off from?

Hi London,

I had given absolutely no thought to you when answering Carrie, so do not know what you might mean. I do hope that you are well, though! I don't need polygraph evidence to know that you are not a disinformer! I like to think that my perception is a lot more acute than that! Why have you not answered my post re the post mortem and autopsy evidence? I am, after all, demonstrating a link between the remark you made and evidence that does, albeit at a prima facie level, de facto exist. I think, as I've said before, there is a lot of important points within your posts, including the one about DDT and aeroplanes.

Hi UK Guy,

Sorry for the delay in answering your question (re. have I viewed your video). Not yet, because I could not get it to play. I will try again at some point, but am hopeless with technical stuff. Yet again, I don't need to see the evidence on video, as I believe your verbal descriptions of the helminths. I pray to God that you will go and be given the right treatment for these.
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Postby Cilla » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:10 pm

Hi Again,

Now I do not know what to think! I go onto the Lyme site, as directed by UK Guy, and, after some reading I come across his description of a fiber that 'undulates' towards a finger, and towards exhaled breath, quite autonomously, after being removed!

This, NB, is not where I first obtained a description of a removed fiber behaving in this extremely weird fashion.

Yet, not one of you contradicted Carrie when she said that she had never heard of any fiber 'undulating' towards the flesh of a finger in this cobra like fashion.

Is this an epiphenomenon of this disease, or is it not?

You might recall, UK Guy, that I suggested, way back when, that you might consider consulting a doctor who practises Traditional Chinese Medicine.

My reasoning is that they can prescribe anthelmintic, or antihelminthic drugs.

This might still be worth keeping in mind, because even some UK university researchers have turned to these practitioners, because these drugs do work, and the thinking is that they might help sufferers of helminthic infections in the so-called Third World.

I think that I also advised that the practitioners of Traditional Chinese Medicine can also provide sufferers of this condition with an excellent form of 'Tiger Balm', to be applied to the skin. Many doctors who know about myiasis in tropical countries will tell you that this can stop flies pupating on the skin, or subcutaneous tissue! Some systemic antihelminthic treatments can also kill fly larvae.

The TCM centres should also be of help with supplying other types of anti-fungal shampoo and soap, and you could enquire about other anti-parasitical treatments, including those suitable only for external use.

The doctor within the establishment (many Traditional Chinese Medicine centres are located in shopping areas throughout the UK) may furthermore be able to prescribe something for your ear.

I thought that I would mention this advice again, although you would naturally have to tell the doctor concerned of any further treatment that you may be prescribed by the dermatologist when you see him or her.

Incidentally, I think that it only costs £10 or so, and that only as a 'one off' payment, after which you can see the Chinese doctor as often as required.

You do have to pay for the drugs prescribed by them, but, there again, you would have to pay for NHS prescriptions in any case.

I do not know if you have this available within the USA.

However, through my more recent reading, it would seem that the practitioners of TCM are now recognising Morgellon's disease! I think that they also call it something else, like adrenal insufficiency. It does not matter what they call it if they can treat it!
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Funny stuff

Postby RANDY » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:53 pm

ukguy wrote:Can the next person waiting to be knocked down please take the chair ......


It is like the Radio Shack commercial. Funny one. Really.
Do I have any other Blistex takers so we can do a little experiment.

Stray target..what does that really mean? MY spit on a windy day could be a stray target. What is a stray target?

Anyone?

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Postby Cilla » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:17 pm

Hi Randy,

I think the target is the microorganism concerned, and the 'stray' part means that it went astray. At least, I think that is what it means, but maybe someone who is sure could confirm?

Tam tam said that the interaction observed between MRSA and the protozoa reminded him of another target, 'your target'. Does this mean that the cyanobacteria concerned go inside the protozoa, using this as a gymnasium?

Please tell us, Tam tam.

From the link provided by UK Guy to Lymebusters, it appears that some people have had results from testing, carried out by a doctor, which would seem to include helminths being found in samples.

More people should have these stool tests carried out, and the appropriate treatment prescribed by their doctor.

Randy, what is gold bond?
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