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Postby London » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:29 pm

Lecture 17 (easy to read.....and important)

http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Bact303A/lecture17kt.htm
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Postby in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:30 pm

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Postby Cilla » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:17 pm

Hi all,

Many thanks for the information on the map of geographical locations that is being charted by Alex, Yet Again.

However, I was actually thinking about the specific points on a specific map, as mentioned by Befour, and tracing all areas between these where the sea, or other water inlets, may ebb and flow. I say again, what do we know about the UK? Crates arriving by sea is one thing. If we are not to dig too deep into the sea, London, what might you consider the opposite?

Cognition and Dreaming.

Lucretia is big on the theory of dreams, and of knowledge stored within the brain. Cliff Mickelson has mentioned the way in which this condition can affect the process of thinking to a very unusual degree.

Have any of you ever experienced anything to do with this condition, perhaps when attempting to remove fibers, or small parts of 'hairs' (which are perhaps not really true hairs), either from your scalp, or from irritating 'hardened' eyelashes, that resulted in something like a momentary 'replay' from a previous dream?

Experience of Panic.

As you know, the formation of the hard plaques of 'skin', (which is perhaps not really true skin), is termed the 'callus' by Cliff Mickelson, who thinks that this serves as a virtually impenetrable shield for the breeding ground of helminths below. This 'callus' has never ever been seen before, and the fibers, coloured and otherwise, seem to emerge from a space, or lesion next to it. Cliff has mentioned that parts of this infection, of which he has so far identified five, seem able to communicate with each other to a very pronounced degree. Like many other living organisms, the major parts of it seem to depend on oxygen and glucose. Have any of you, in successfully removing, (e.g. by effective suffocation of the callus, by the application of a totally air tight seal of cream), actually experienced the feeling of panic probably being undergone by the borg?

What do you think about the notion that the callus, protecting helminths and fibers underneath, is possibly genetically programmed to respond, at least up to a point, defensively to medication? E.g., could it lift up, trying to remove its precious cargo from, for instance, antihelminthics in the blood stream? (Naturally, these drugs, while necessary, are not sufficient. The whole arsenal of the drugs included in the Schwartz protocol are needed at the prescribed dose and time).

Could it shrink down, or move laterally, or send out thicker, baser fibers, (some white and layered in arrangement, some of which may be feathers), shooting to the side, if it is simultaneously smothered from above at the point where the level of the drugs is calculated to be optimum? Do you think that, what with its dogged persistence, these new offshoots will try to grow a callus again?
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Postby Skytroll » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:19 pm

I do think so, Cilla, the baby begets babies.

It is the matrix

And there are satellites.

Is this where oxalate will come in, maybe?

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Postby Cilla » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:22 pm

Hi Helen,

I have had a read of your hypothesis of the feather, and the way in which you suggest it might shoot out from, or become elongated suddenly from a 'seed pod' does sound right.

From those who have experienced this I would expect to hear a report of something being shunted along, with deliberate purpose, within your subcutaneous tissue, usually in the scalp. It might feel like a pulley, or a sharp thick needle, moving quite quickly. If it hits a nerve cell, you would feel very sharp pain.

This would certainly fit in with the infection, perhaps in the form of something that initially looks like clear protoplasm, possibly going into the hair follicles (stem cell by definition, as stated by Tam tam) of the sufferer.

This clear protoplasm must contain things, and maybe the rudiments of such seed pods are among them.

Apply Topical Solutions.

I have read that the thick black fibers, and indeed the tan coloured ones, can sometimes be gently but very firmly combed out of a scalp that is swollen, or is arranged in 'ridges', which also may account for the subjective accounts of 'skin tightening' and 'moving hairs' as reported to the Morgellon's Research Foundation.

Obtain Treatment from a Doctor.

Such combing out of any of the different aspects of this infection/infestation would be best accomplished if accompanied by the advised prescribed treatment, both topically and systemically.

As Tam tam has said, it is best to vary the treatment, partially because of the protozoal element, and partly because of Cliff's view that the borg can quickly learn (temporary) methods of resistance to the range of measures that may be applied topically, (i.e. directly to the skin).

Plant Technology and Insects.

Systemically means the treatment that would be prescribed to be taken internally.

Lucretia has noticed that Tam tam has mentioned the plant technology that is part of this, and the fact that this might bring its 'systematic' insect life. She thinks that he might mean the systemic insect life that can abound in plants, and, considering that English is not his first language, we perhaps ought to have thought of that.

A doctor would not expect you to be infected or infested by insects that only live systemically on plants. NB, this means that, if true, the insect life would be existing inside the cellulose type fibers. We must await Tam tam's answer, as to whether this is what he meant.

Remember that Tam tam has said that this is an infection that thinks it is an insect, and, sometimes, thinks it is a plant. Therefore, it is very important to treat the infection with the appropriate antibiotics, in addition to the other drugs that should be prescribed.

C3.

Lucretia, when she heard the term 'C3', thought of Containment Level 3 Laboratories, which is to do with legislation in the UK governing certain experiments with certain microorganisms, (potentially dangerous ones).

She advises you to read and re-read everything Tam tam has said, because so much has been possibly missed. She wonders what he might mean about this assembled infection being 'brought or bought' in culture. Already in culture? Who would sell this, and who would buy it, and to whom should any suspected leaks be reported? Is this what you did mean, Tam tam?

With her being fascinated by language, she also thinks that the name he adopted earlier might well mean something, but she cannot remember exactly what. She thinks the first part is a Greek word, and it is definitely to do with science, or a philosophy that governed science, a few decades ago. (The name beginning with G).
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Postby Cilla » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:55 pm

Hi Sky,

If this is so, with dogged persistence, and with the prescribed topical and systemic medication, you should be able to weaken it each time.

If the 'callus' skin breaks up, and you get it out, you may experience knotted hair, or knotted thick white or black fibers, that are tangled together. I know that such tangles have also been reported, and sent to the Morgellon's Research Foundation. I wonder if these are trying to take over the protective shield like role of the callus, until a new one may form. This must not be allowed.

You must deliberately assert control over your own scalp, and firmly tell the borg that this is what you are doing. I advise doing this silently, for obvious reasons. If panic ensues, (see above), tell it gently to go to sleep, that all is well. Remove the air tight seal of cream 12 hours later, (peruse various medical sites for advice, or ask your doctor), and keep everything as clean and aseptic as possible throughout the whole process.

Do not forget the osmotic pull of sea salt.

Matchbox diagnosis.

This was yesterday's problem. Hardly anyone smokes now, and matchboxes are not seen as often. Those who have this problem affecting their lungs, (in my experience of reading accounts), usually, in fact invariably, say, 'and I've never smoked'. Smokers get the condition too, but not, from what I have read, in their lungs. Could this be because nicotine is a powerful insecticide and repellant? I do not know, and I am most certainly not advising you to smoke.

You are correct about the attitude of doctors, generally, though. Unless you go to a doctor who already has been persuaded to believe in this condition, (and they can only be persuaded, 99.9% of the time, by other doctors or scientists), you will not usually succeed in convincing them by anything you say or do.

They will not, in the main, be persuaded by your photographs, videos, or logical argument either. They just won't. I know it is unfair, but I am telling you exactly like it is.

This is why I am so glad that there is a doctor in the UK who is recommended by the Morgellon's Research Foundation. Through time, he will be able to persuade others, although some might take longer than others. That's why it's good to get the trainers of doctors persuaded by another doctor. This is how the system works.

I am glad that you are here, Sky. I told Lucretia what you said to someone on another site who said that at least this condition was not going to kill you. You said, 'Excuse me, but no-one knows the long term effects that may be possible'. Lucretia says that you are right, no-one knows, but you must, after reading everything said, actively consider other possible hazards, so that these too can be circumvented.
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Morgellons objects identified

Postby John Kern » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:56 pm

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Postby London » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:58 pm

Off you guys topic above but this should be looked at,,,,,,
I found one object that was nearly one inch long in my home

last August when this disease happened to take it's gripp on me-

(I still have it too) The orkin man said he had no idea what it was?

Well it looked just like a Helicobacter pylori does...............

It's usually unheard of but hey, like MORGELLONS IS?
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Postby London » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:16 pm

I would urge you to ignore that morgellons blog above by john,

as well as I would ignore this statement / article here where it says aerosols for cancer therapy!

http://www.personalmd.com/news/n1013043905.shtml


I know for a fact that a can of glade air freshener causes CANCER-

i SAW THEM POST A PHOTO OF IT ON A CANCER WEBSITE.

THE F-ING LYING IDIOTS!!!!
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AND HERE YOU GO, ANY DOCTORS IN THE HOUSE TODAY?

MY NEW WORD FOR THE DAY IS : PLASMONS IT GOES WITH NANOPORES TOO; JUST SCROLL DOWN TO READ ABOUT IT.

So, just like I said, LIGHT is involved!

http://www3.ocn.ne.jp...u.htm
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Postby in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:31 pm

Look who I found:

http://familymedgaithersburg.com/

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Postby London » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:45 pm

Why thank you.

You are a sheer genius Helen!
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To all, wanted to give you another oldie but goodie...various topics. if you go down to the very bottom of the page, you can see where there

is many more pages there as well.

http://100777.com/taxonomy/term/46/9?from=100
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Re: Morgellons objects identified

Postby in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:50 pm

John Kern wrote:They found out what the object from Drew's lip were:

http://morgellonswatch.blogspot.com/2006/04/objects-emerging-from-lesion-on-childs.html

:shock:


Completely by coincidence I had a conversation with my friend Ed who has the mill where the crate was stored that brought the morgellons to me. His feet became very, very bad. They looked like they had a thick layer of mould on them. They were terrible. This weekend he said that he put his foot in the bath and felt something strange appening. He looked at this foot and the thick layer was peeling off. He described what came off as tissue paper. A thick layer of tissue paper. Photos are available. He has said before about tissue paper. He also makes a link between wood and paper and the disease.

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