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Postby Cilla » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:25 pm

Hi,

Well, the best way of getting help is not to allow the site to be used for insulting or making false accusations against those who are trying their level best to obtain this medical intervention for you.

The doctor I have tried to engage says he is not coming on to any site to be treated like this.
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Postby tamtam » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:33 pm

Could people be so kind to send the link
http://www.silentsuperbug.com
to as well national as international Institutes.
Thank You.

Also I advise You to seek litigation.
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Postby in_the_uk » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:43 pm

Cilla: what do you mean "treated like this"?
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Postby London » Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:11 pm

Well C'mon you guys; no time for bickering.....let's get organized!

Why don't we say that each of us that gives a damn and wants to get Tams video out there to the Universities, pick 3 each to send it to....

or more if one is so inclined....

Example: I (London ) will choose three now:

1. Stanford (My favorite)

2. Berkley

3. Arizona

I will make a promise to get Tams video link to these 3 Universities
By tomorrow night (Sunday, April the 2nd)

What one can do is simply look up the University of their choices' website, then like go into their Microbiology and Immunology Dept. and click onto staff and then it will most likely give you various web addresses to send to professors.

I'm going to go back and pull ups southcity's generic coverletter about the video to send along with it.... But remember to modify it>

take out the crossinglines link and put in the new one.
*****************

Please people, let's work together on this and make a powerful effort
to get this video out there.....

If you want to do this, please list in your post which three you are picking and I will try to keep a running post current with the Universities
that have been chosen and written to.

Thank you!

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Postby in_the_uk » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:34 pm

Hi, I've got a question..

As I have said in a previous post, talk of protiens and DNA goes over my head. I'm an engineer and understand flow over aircraft wings and safe working loads. tamtam's video suggests that the fibre disease (my understanding is that the fibre disease is essentially the same as what is being called Morgellons disease) is a product of a biology experiment. Morgellons disease was first documented and symptoms described in the 1600's. So how come the cause of the sypmtoms is now synthetic? The reason for my question is simply that if there is going to be a concerted push for a deeper understanding and acceptance of the problem - and hopefully a cure, then wouldn't it be more useful to push from one direction of the count of 3 rather than several directions?
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Postby ukguy » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:33 am

Cilla wrote:Hi,

Well, the best way of getting help is not to allow the site to be used for insulting or making false accusations against those who are trying their level best to obtain this medical intervention for you.

The doctor I have tried to engage says he is not coming on to any site to be treated like this.


Hi Cilla.

Cilla, I don't understand your post I'm afraid. Was it directed at Helen?
If so, why? She didn't make any false accusations as far as I can see....

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Postby ukguy » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:39 am

in_the_uk wrote:ukguy,

Yes I am in the UK. By complete coincidence I am living bang on the border between Lancashire and West Yorkshire. I must admit that the technicalities of filiments, etc, that people discuss on this board are a bit beyond me. However, I do know that in my little town there is a raging case of what appears to be Morgellons. The understanding is that it was transported here in the wood of a packing case in which an engine was delivered to a company here. The engine (and case) came from the Bay area of California. My friend is very ill with it and has been trying to deal with it since last July. He has been diagnosed as delusional and has been on a 28 day section (detained against his will in the psychiatric hospital) because of the diagnosis. I had not seen him for some time and I bumped into him 2 weeks ago, in the garden centre. He was buying more chemicals to try and rid his business premises of it. He showed me a fibre protrude from a gaping lesion on his thumb. His shoulders were round his ankles and that night I searched the internet and found a complete set of his symptoms, as he had described them on the Morgellons Research Foundation web site (before I knew of the engine crate). We went to his GP and presented loads of papers printed off from the internet. They are still not convinced. This last week he has had some sucess with his premises by using his steam cleaner to introduce white vinegar into the environment and particularly up into the beams (it's an old mill).

NOW I have fibres coming out of my hands. Last night I found an itchy site on my leg and sure enough I produced a fibre from it and a "projectile" that went off into the room somewhere. I have spoken to the GP. He says that I have no fibres coming out of my hands. I have the contact details of a physician in Bolton that I received from Mary Leito. I am going to make an appointment on Monday before it gets a grip of me and my home and my cat. Also, last night I sent an email to the Calderdale and Kirklees Health Protection Unit, as Mary Leito had requested in her email reply to me.

Who else is doing what in the uk? What is the most effective way of dealing with it?

Helen


Hi Helen.

I feel for your friend and for you if indeed you have this disease.
There are other people in the UK with this disease. I have talked
with one person over the phone and he most definitely has it.

As you can see from the way your friend has been treated, our
doctors are very much in the dark about this. I had heard that
a doctor in the UK was treating this and was promised his name
and no. It never came despite repeated attempts. Please don't
mention his name here or anywhere else for that matter but
I would very much like to be able to contact him.

Helen, I've sent you a PM (Private Message) through this board.
If you log in and go to your messages at the top of the screen
you'll find it there.

Take care and I hope to speak with you soon.

Best regards
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Postby in_the_uk » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:16 am

ukguy - thanks for your reply.

Helen
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Postby in_the_uk » Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:14 pm

OK, this is how I am going to begin my resistance to this thing.

Each day from this point forward I will stick to the following regime (it may be improved upon):

At least 1 bath with dettol, wash with dettol soap.
Any itchy sites that appear spot with tea tree oil.

1000mg echinacea root extract
1 multi vitamin tablet
the 2 above are for immunity boosting

3g salt and 3000mg vit C 4 times a day plus 2 litres water
this is from the lymephotos web page

1000mg garlic
this is anti bacterial

2 x vega acidophilus bifidus tablets
peppermint oil capsules
remove yeast and sugar from diet - I am already vegan so I don't take dairy
this is part of a candida cleanse

burn peppermint oil in oil burners around the house

When I return from my friend's mill, remove my clothes at the door and place in a bin liner, then fill the bin liner with fly spray. After some time wash my clothes and then soak them in a 1:1 white vinegar/ water mix. Wash again. Meanwhile I go straight to the shower or bath.
Soak hand towels/ bath towels in bleach before washing.
Bleach and vinegar produce dangerous chlorine gas when mixed - just a reminder.

Hopefully that should give me a chance.

Helen
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Postby J Jill » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:00 pm

in_the_uk wrote:Hi, I've got a question..

As I have said in a previous post, talk of protiens and DNA goes over my head. I'm an engineer and understand flow over aircraft wings and safe working loads. tamtam's video suggests that the fibre disease (my understanding is that the fibre disease is essentially the same as what is being called Morgellons disease) is a product of a biology experiment. Morgellons disease was first documented and symptoms described in the 1600's. So how come the cause of the sypmtoms is now synthetic? The reason for my question is simply that if there is going to be a concerted push for a deeper understanding and acceptance of the problem - and hopefully a cure, then wouldn't it be more useful to push from one direction of the count of 3 rather than several directions?



Good question, Helen. I've been wondering the same thing.

You have put together a good action plan. Let everyone know how it works for you?

As to the distribution of this grunge (pathogen) in your area, I doubt if it's limited to a delivery from California.
"When you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon."
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Postby in_the_uk » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:25 pm

The reason that my friend is so convinced that the crate is the source is that he was badly bitten one night when he was working in the area that he had the crate. After that the problems started. I will encourage him to do some posting. If it isn't the crate then what do you think that the source is?

I have been taking each dose of 3g of salt in luke warm water and using the soln to wash down the vit c tablets. It is definately achievable but I recommend to do before or after eating - when the salt soln has got something solid to sit in. I think that I will look for some salt tablets.

And also, in my strategy I think that I need to do some heavy duty vacuuming - particularly where I drop my clothes, in the bathroom and the bedroom and under the radiator that my bath towel lives on. I was just looking at steam cleaners. I wonder if I could drop some peppermint oil in the steam cleaner water and steam clean the bathroom, steam clean my bed, steam clean the linnen basket? Where did my life go?

One thing that I would like to know is how dangerous are the fibres that come out? I know that my friend defines them as either "alive" or "dead" depending on whether they drop to the floor or go floating off or "shooting" off. Also, what kind of intelligence do they have? If you grasp one of the thin ones between your finger and thumb and introduce a finger of the other hand close to the fibre, be careful not to make any disturbance by breathing too hard, the fibre will be attracted to the finger that has been introduced. Is this static electricity or some kind of heat/ life seeking sensor?

Helen
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Postby Linn » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:23 pm

Hello Helen,
welcome to this board! :)
Just wondering if your friend still
has that initial crate
in possesion?

And how is the regimen you described helping?
Do you actualy use white vinegar on your
skin?
I have been sympton free for a few months
now, I think (but not sure)
due to my diligent use of vinegar, every day after
my shower.
At the very least it helps keep the lesions disinfected
and is the
only thing I found to releive the itch.
Take Care,
Lynne
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