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Postby Sabrina » Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:42 am

Dear UK Guy,

My heart goes out to you. Sorry you suffer. Everyday I hear of new cases of this :( and remember how I felt when I learned I had this nightmare too. It turned my world upside down and it is a surreal experience that no human being should have to go through. At least you are not alone now and many of us treat ourselves as best that we can, some claim to be cured too. Sorry to tell you but if you are looking for a doctor to help you your chances are slim to none!

The best we really have right now are Lyme doctors and Dr. Schwartz. The first test to get if you have not ruled out Morgellons yet is a Lyme test and the lab you use is very important. Lyme is everywhere now so please do not think your country is immune. We also now know that it can be spread sexually too.

I caution you as Cilla has to be very careful how you present this disease to any doctor! However, I have to disagree with using the word “parasite” at anytime when conferring with your doctor.

Please read my post here and I am sure you will find something useful on how to proceed with your attempt for treatment as well as how you finally will be able to figure out if you have this disease or not. I have posted a few good techniques on how to detect it. Hope it helps.

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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:54 am

Hi UlkGuy,

Very sorry but I have not been to this forum in a couple of
days. I did not persue Dr. Schwartz protocol due to a hell
of a lot of advice from people at Morgellons calling him
a quack. So much for what they knew, Eh? Funny to watch
them backpeddling now! I do not judge any treatment
with this heinous disease. I will try to find out for you
though. I believe you can order it for $29.00 (US)

Good Luck, let me know if I can be of any help.
Thank you for the hyperlink!

I care.

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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:50 pm

TamTam,

Is this going to all come down to C. Elegans and Pseudo A.?


Thanks,

London


To everyone else: I beleive someone that knows quite a bit about our disease is AND THE CLONING INVOLVED IS: Dr. Qing Guo.

and guess where he works? At the University of oaklahoma. Now isn't this where Dr. Wymore works? This is not the first time I have read something involving that University. I think something funny is going on.
I intend to try to find out as well.
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Postby ukguy » Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:07 pm

Sabrina

Thanks for replying Sabrina! I really hope you and your family find
some peace very soon.

That link was very interesting Cilla, thanks. I do have a UV lamp and
have witnessed the fibers/fibres on me / my clothes etc. I've witnessed
the 'sensing' fibres too but dismissed this at first. We always try to look
for a rational explanation. I've seen the fibres shoot up also and seen
some come back to me stick to my hand or arm. Again, there are other
ways these things can perhaps be explained (heat convection, static etc)
but when you see it yourself it seems quite different.

For all the symptoms I have (including the visiting bugs at night) no one
can give me an explanation of why I can affect people around me very
quickly - they start scratching their face, arms, legs etc...THIS was the
turning point for me...and it has happened SO many times that it is NOT
coincidence or mirroring body language etc.

One major problem of course is that while there is ALOT of information
out there...it's all very fragmented because people are driven to helping
themselves and each other. I really hope it get's proper recognition soon
but I can't see that happening for quite a while.

Back to your post you listed Sabrina...the tea tree oil test sounds like
a good one. I received some today and I have a few more packages on
the way. I'll certainly give it a try.

Thanks once again Sabrina and I will keep in touch if I have anything
I think may be of use :)

Take care....

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Hi London

Thanks for getting back to me.
I think you're right regarding treatment...always have to have an open
mind. I'm getting a list of treatments together from various sources so if you have anything that has helped you then please share (PM if you like).

London, TamTam has been quiet of late...something on the way?

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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:04 pm

For what it's worth:

The Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) stipulates
that all known toxicity information be disclosed in a pre-manufacture notice, but it does
not require that any specific testing be performed prior to manufacture and marketing of a
new chemical product.
Thus, the chemical industry has less of a regulatory incentive to
pre-screen chemicals under development for potential toxicity. While the stated public
positions of the American Chemistry Council (ACC) and the Chemical Industry Institute
of Technology, Centers for Health Research (CIIT) describe a desire to broaden the
understanding of potential health risks of chemical products, the regulatory context and
incentive structures are leading to a focus on revising risk assessments of existing
products that the industry believes overestimate true risks (e.g., Greenlee et al. 2003).
Thus, the CIIT is applying toxicogenomic and systems biology approaches to compounds
like formaldehyde and chloroform, in order to more fully elucidate cancer mechanisms
and potentially demonstrate non-linearity of cancer dose-responses. The CIIT asserts that
systems biology will provide a “valuable payback” by reducing uncertainty and that
reduction in uncertainty will affect environmental standard compliance costs, presumably
by allowing more relaxed exposure standards.

and........


Foreign compounds include therapeutic agents, carcinogens, plant metabolites, environmental pollutants, foodstuffs and other dietary components as well as industrial chemicals. The biotransformation of foreign compounds (xenobiotics) is often regarded as detoxification because it usually converts compounds into more water-soluble, readily excreted substances. This tends to decrease the exposure of the organism to the compound and therefore tends to decrease toxicity. However, in some cases the reverse occurs and a metabolite is produced which is more toxic than the parent compound. For example, drug- metabolizing enzymes may activate some carcinogens, and interindividual differences in cancer susceptibilities, have been linked to polymorphisms in drug-metabolizing enzymes.


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Postby ukguy » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:32 pm

London wrote:TamTam,

Is this going to all come down to C. Elegans and Pseudo A.?


Thanks,

London


To everyone else: I beleive someone that knows quite a bit about our disease is AND THE CLONING INVOLVED IS: Dr. Qing Guo.

and guess where he works? At the University of oaklahoma. Now isn't this where Dr. Wymore works? This is not the first time I have read something involving that University. I think something funny is going on.
I intend to try to find out as well.


London, how did you find Dr Qing Guo?

The name struck a chord with me...;) No pun intended ===>

TamTam=Gong(A gong having a metal disk struck with a felt-covered hammer or stick used in a gamelan orchestra)

Qi gong (Mentioned by TamTam for whatever reason - A Chinese system of prescribed physical exercises or movements performed in a meditative state)

And now we have Dr Qing Guo...

Apologies for this, it just came to mind..:)

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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:01 pm

UKGuy,

Actually I wrote that to him- just trying to get a reply/comment from him on that. To no avail.

BUT, when I found that earlier this morning ( relating to Doc's name),
I too noticed that exact same similarity! I will see if I can find it for you.

And you know what else? I think that it's great that they are trying to find something that will help CF but I'm looking for help with Morgellons
whacked out disease. Is he implying they cloned this f-up mess while trying to find the CF answer?

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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:12 pm

TAMTAM,

Here is something that may help you-

The CF glycophenotype of increased Fuc α1,3GlcNAc, expressed in the
Lewis x epitope may be a reason for the increased rates of pulmonary infection in
CF. To decrease bacterial binding to these carbohydrate epitopes on the
surfaces of CF airways, our laboratory is exploring the possibility of the
administration of synthetic carbohydrates which are structurally similar to the...........

I'm sure you know the rest.

Are you going to help us????

Germany is becoming more and more attractive to the world’s best and the brightest. But that doesn’t just mean that more money is pouring in: a new immigration law in the works will make it easier for foreign researchers to conduct their research and work in Germany—together with their families. The plan is to make Germany into an “idea factory,” one in which prosperity and security are guaranteed. The former German Federal President Richard von Weizsäcker said it best, “Today’s new technology is tomorrow’s bread and butter.”


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Postby London » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:51 pm

Why hell, they're playing more than the Name Game!

UKGUY,

To me this also has a lot to do with the Communications Industry-
specifically computers and also cell phones!

They have this crap named after some damn game. They meet
at clandestined places all over the worrld. also there is a certain group
of scientist/Doctors that meets every 18 months. This has to do a lot with the idealogies( sp?) of Darwinism vs- ? ( can't think of word right now)
Is this not some crap? I also think the bromilane ( pineapple) has something to do with our disease, I'm refering to the giant bacteria
that hides inside the rose part. It is the flattened part that traps a lot
of rain, thus a breeding ground for bacteria.

I have some photos of some wild crap! Also I have photos where one stupid-arse F-stick was Dumb enough to take a picture of this new computer box hook-up attachment they use. Well in this photo that they took of their computer it had names,,,,listed right there on their computer screen. Private investigation materials that's for sure!

A damn game- uses names like warrior, zenith, etc.,

PS and the nicknames? check out the faculty names- nevermind, this one I will PM to you.

You know uk guy, the more I think about it the more I see them making the money. In the cure as well as the hunt for treatment.

Watch the dermatology area increase in financial gains-specifically the sale of Imiquimod- is this medicine out yet? I think it is but so not know.

Watch cancer drugs spring into mega bucks. Andyou know, this frog disease that I spoke of as well did TamTam last week, well I do not think it is on the rise at all. I think they are using this as an excuse for the skin lesions they caused from the anthrax!

Watch this too>> they want increased hydrogen production!!! This is if anything what the Govt wants the most!

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since we are on the topic

Postby Barz » Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:05 pm

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Postby Skytroll » Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:38 pm

more.....Barz, thanks......

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/85/6/2298

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Postby J Jill » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:56 pm

TamTam,

I'm confused- please help?

On October 31, 2005- you stated:

Lepidoptera is dominant in culture.

The target is brought in culture.
Observation is based on about 180 cultures. **********180 Cultures*********************

Multiple gene expression synomymous with multi lineage differentiation is fact: thus stem cell

related.

This particular affinity is two fold.
1/ because its quorum sensing
2/ because a reject in the form of a keratin pump

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On Nov 7, 2005, you stated:

The systemic disease you suffer from is caused by a set commensal
resembling quorum sensing made micro organisms.

Its base architecture is a cyanobacterium fused with a mayor parasitic protozoa
(to include cyclical and variant glycoprotein properties)

Multiple dominant gene expression can be observed in culture. *********Culture of what?

Also random re-combination is fact.
Re-combinations represent variant.

Fibers are variant
(novel plant/ insect like cell)

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On Nov 8 you stated:

"tamtam" just gives a description of what can be observed in culture.
Fibers can not be cultered - to my knowledge
. *********If Fibers can not be cultured, what was cultured?

**

If I understand the information correctly, you state that you cultured 180
'targets'- Multiple dominate gene expression observed (in what?)


Thanks in advance for any help in the understanding of this matter.

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