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Postby Chirality » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:00 am

German? You say? two greats come to mind.
Hans U, and P. Ehrlich- but of course he is deceased.

The Gene microarray is a problem in that it in itself can create more
variant targets.

I am aware of a rapidly changing society is amongst us due to the new scientific/medical advances that now exist. I am from the old school and do not think we needed any of this in the first place. I come from a long lineage of pure German blood. I am 76 years old . My eldest Grandaughter and two of her four children are suffering from this affliction. She still lives in Argentina with the two sick children. My beloved wife and I now have custodial care of her other two.

I may be old compared to some of you people but I am still sharp as a tack. I will give some credit to the younger generation for one thing and one thing only. The computer. It is quite an amzing invention. My
grandchildren had their way with me and I gave in and purchased one for them last Julio. Although, I mastered the internet over time, I still have diffulty typing. I am aware of these new emerging diseases and I do not like them. I'm going to find a way to end this.

Thank you for allowing an old man like myself to participate in this conversation of utter science horror.

I am still reading up on the governmental policies from various countries. Can anyone tell me how many continents this Lyme or this human Fiber affliction crosses?

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Postby amoebapower » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:15 am

isnt lime disease from ticks?
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Postby Chirality » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:48 am

You mean Lyme Disease? Yes as well as other things. From what I'm reading, the American Government gave it to the ticks. I have citizenship ( dual), one being in America but I really hate admitting that sometimes.

So, to the person above me asking about ticks and Lyme, do you have any symptoms yourself? My great grandchildren are showing numerous signs of this affliction as well as their Mother. She is 43 years of age.
They are and were living in Agentina when this began for them back ... quince de Mayo.
Anos- 2004
Where are you residing?

Thank you kindly,

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Postby C3 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:58 pm

Chiral Hirsch III from Belize,

Your reference is interesting as well as Your age.

In relation to prototheca and quorum sensing
(e.g 1960)

What do You remember about this episode,

If I make the statement that cyano represents the source code,
how would You elaborate?

The identification of this target has been done with German literature.
But the target represents a fusion with what it seems a trypanosoma like element.


Sincerely,

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Postby Cilla » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:18 pm

Hi Uk Guy,
You are very welcome. It's a horrible thing to suffer from, but, with all the help and interest now coming on board, I think that you are going to beat this disease.
Hi Chiral,
Thank you for your input, and I wholeheartedly agree with your view that we did not need this. I am so sorry to hear about your daughter and her children. I hope very much that you will be able to find a way to end all this suffering. I believe that one of the main writers on this, Cliff Mickelson, has said that he has reports of the fiber disease from virtually everywhere in the world, except the Antarctic.
I know of a parasitologist who has published accounts of live insects being found breeding in adults' scalps. These included tick nymphs and a caterpillar from the lepidoptera species. Different adult insects were found living on some of the afflicted patients' lesions.

How exactly did they get there?

I am not a scientist, so would like to ask Tam tam about cloning C3 at the cellular level, and whether, from the cloned amalgamation of the bacteria with the lepidoptera, a fully formed caterpillar could emerge. How do the fully formed helminths get there? What about these tick nymphs? And the other adult arthropods and insects? Have all been there, in juvenile form, (eggs and larvae), from 'conception', or are some environmental adult insects subsequently attracted to the de novo lesions because of some pathological change that has occurred, making human skin and subcutaneous tissue suitable for their breeding? I know that fungal infections would seem to be part of this, and maybe it is the smell from the dermatophytes that is attracting the environmental insects. Maybe they then engage in breeding, thus making the conditions even more attractive for certain other types of insects. Some of these will bring certain micro-organisms with them, e.g. flies could bring bacterial infection. Maybe this is why some people with the fiber disease also test positive for having been exposed to Lyme disease, (i.e. if they have had, as the parasitologist mentioned above discovered in the case he wrote about, ticks breeding on them, or living on them for a short time). If Dr Schwartz states that the helminths living under the skin are tapeworms, (I'm not certain that this is his professional and final conclusion yet), how did they get there? Is it all to do with what has been cloned, (in your opinion, please, Tam tam), or is it more to do with subsequent infestation and infection? Or, is it a mixture of both?
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Postby Chirality » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:13 am

I think you might be referring to Ritter and his friends-

If so, I was so young then, I just remember hearing my Papa speak of it and always in a cursory fashion.

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Postby Chirality » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:19 am

I also meant to ask that fellow, Tam Tam, if he could have also been asking me if I was referring to or knew about Bolstein or Stoudt.

Thank you kindly,

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Postby London » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:06 pm

I've been studying the Niipah Virus. It is quite interesting.

The University of Arizona have came up with A tobacco plant that
protects one ( a vaccine) from catching the "PLAGUE."- wonder
what plague they might be referring to?

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... d=rssfeeds

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Postby ukguy » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:50 pm

Cilla: ..thanks Cilla for making those points and for articulating thoughts I'm finding difficult myself due to the complexities of the subject matter!
I'd be very interested in hearing a response on these points.

TamTam: Would you be so kind as to explain the mechanisms here - is it possible that the processes
you have described could attract other insects? Many people have stated that there seems to be an increase in 'activity'
when in the vicinity of other people. Conversely, could arthropods / insects be attracted to these organisms in some way?

Finally: Could someone direct me to the body of work shown so far by Dr Schwartz or is it only available by purchasing
from his website at http://www.healingresearch.org/ ?

Thanks
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Postby Chirality » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:18 pm

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Postby London » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:34 pm

Mr. Hirsch,

I did. Perceptual learning. Also note:

Mammalian cell invasion by the protozoan pathogen Trypanosoma cruzi is critical to its survival in the host. To promote its entry into a wide variety of non-professional phagocytic cells, infective trypomastigotes exploit an arsenal of heterogenous surface glycoproteins, secreted proteases and signalling agonists to actively manipulate multiple host cell signalling pathways.

Also:

Connective tissue growth factor (CTGF) is a cysteine-rich peptide synthesized and secreted by fibroblastic cells after activation with transforming growth factor beta (TGF-ß) that acts as a downstream mediator of TGF-ß-induced fibroblast proliferation. We performed in vitro and in vivo studies to determine whether CTGF is also essential for TGF-ß-induced fibroblast collagen synthesis. In vitro studies with normal rat kidney (NRK) fibroblasts demonstrated CTGF potently induces collagen synthesis and transfection with an antisense CTGF gene blocked TGF-ß stimulated collagen synthesis. Moreover, TGF-ß-induced collagen synthesis in both NRK and human foreskin fibroblasts was effectively blocked with specific anti-CTGF antibodies and by suppressing TGF-ß-induced CTGF gene expression by elevating intracellular cAMP levels with either membrane-permeable 8-Br-cAMP or an adenylyl cyclase activator, cholera toxin (CTX). cAMP also inhibited collagen synthesis induced by CTGF itself, in contrast to its previously reported lack of effect on CTGF-induced DNA synthesis. In animal assays, CTX injected intradermally in transgenic mice suppressed TGF-ß activation of a human CTGF promoter/lacZ reporter transgene. Both 8-Br-cAMP and CTX blocked TGF-ß-induced collagen deposition in a wound chamber model of fibrosis in rats. CTX also reduced dermal granulation tissue fibroblast population increases induced by TGF-ß in neonatal mice, but not increases induced by CTGF or TGF-ß combined with CTGF. Our data indicate that CTGF mediates TGF-ß-induced fibroblast collagen synthesis and that in vivo blockade of CTGF synthesis or action reduces TGF-ß-induced granulation tissue formation by inhibiting both collagen synthesis and fibroblast accumulation.—Duncan, M. R., Frazier, K. S. Abramson, S., Williams, S., Klapper, H., Huang, X., Grotendorst, G. R. Connective tissue growth factor mediates transforming growth factor ß-induced collagen synthesis: down-regulation by cAMP.



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Postby Chirality » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:14 pm

Hello,

London,

Will you PM me on information on Krause and the other gentleman
you spoke of-I can not think of his name at the moment. I would certainly appreciate it.

Thank you kindly,

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