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Postby showmeproof » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:50 am

I agree with Dr. Swartz. I have watched the video many times and while the video and photography are very good, without any data or proof of scientific analysis, one must simply conclude that all you have shown is some very pretty pictures. without the data it means NOTHING, nothing more than some good pictures, which others have also taken by the way. perhaps not so clear, but the same none the less. WHY IS YOUR THEORY ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THEIRS. without proof it isn't. without proof and data it is empty words with no merit. Where is the DATA, without it your words mean nothing except to those that WANT to believe you. without proof or hard data your words are the same as your claimed credentials. which you have given NONE of. give some substance or please stop with your mockery and amusment at those who suffer from this expense. enough games, it's time to put up or shut up.
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Postby Michelle » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:05 am

DJ wrote:
Also, are there any accredited studies that I can look at of research pertaining to pathogens, patients, or fiber/speck samples from a Morgellons sufferer? Thanks in advance.


Here's a study published in the New York Journel of Entomology:
http://www.headlice.org/report/research/index.html

here is a recent press release:
http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/augus ... _havoc.htm

Most people do not want to accept the NPA's findings for reasons unbeknownst to me (maybe them too). BUT it is the only scientific study conducted on sufferers of this disease. and yes this is all one disease..morgellons etc...it's the same thing. As of yet, nobody has been able to prove the NPA wrong. People with influence over a majority of these sufferers can make unsubstatiated statements, spread nasty rumors and out and out lies about the NPA and their study, but nobody can actually prove them wrong, cuz they can't. It's all politics...
It's unfortunate and pathetic that sufferers themselves are not willing to support the study, they're just prolonging their own suffering by doing so.
The NPA has been consistent in their findings, and continue to be consistent. There have also been several reports or papers written over the past century about collembola infestations. I find it hard to believe all of these scientists are all making the same mistakes.
Even now, entomologists are finding collembola in people's skin scrapings but they attribute these findings to "poor hygiene" or "domestic infestations" or "contamination of samples either accidentally or (impossibly because of this particular collembola's minute size) on purpose." What needs to happen is for entomologists to get past this juncture, basically, then more research can be conducted and perhaps some sort of cure will follow.
Historically, most medical or scientific discoveries were scoffed at when they were first introduced. For example, Louis Pasteur was laughed at when he proposed that microbes can cause disease. But now we know differently. This is exactly what the NPA has had to go through over the past few years.
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Postby GregV » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:14 am

Dr. Schwartz does not have a firm belief. I am very cordial with Dr. Schwartz, I spoke to him the other day, and he knows me well.
He has NO FIRM BELIEF!
He does not believe THIS yet that has been discussed on this forum.
But I have FIRST MADE HIM AWARE OF THIS TOPIC!
It wasn't until about 2 months ago perhaps that he even thought a Parasite was related to this.
He was holding onto the 1 Culture that he had taken in February. I know of a Patient who saw him personally, "from California" who tried to convince him that she had Parasites and he did not believe her. Now he does. Don't be so firm on things that you don't know what it is that you are talking about.

Truly Dr. Schwartz has not so much been as interested in finding out the true cause of this, as he has been of trying to find out how to treat it by trial and error, and he is still experimenting in that mode.
I am not discrediting him in any way, for any reason, he has made this Disease his life, and has helped many of us including me myself.

Perhaps some have developed Colembolla Infections, but if they have what I have It is not the base cause.

My catalog of Images is one of the most quantitive that has ever been exposed publicly. Nobody has shown yet some of the organism varieties and forms that I have at my sight. There are Many forms of Parasitic Organisms Never Viewed Before at MorgellonsUSA.com
And some think they are a bird, some think they are a squid, some think they are an insect, (These are only the Pictures that I have SHOWN on the sight, there are many, many, many.......)

As many have already stated, and TamTam has explained in graphic details how,
COLLEMBOLA DOES NOT EXPLAIN THIS DISEASE!!!

I have spent almost a year Researching this by Actual Eye Contact, and I have the Images to PROVE THE NPA WRONG!
So how does that tickle your fancy? Open up your Mind, you've shut it down and closed it up to be able to understand knowledge.
I've never been to college, and I can SEE what these Educated Professionals are speaking of
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Postby GregV » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:19 am

When I say this, I have to study what they say indeed, but I am slowly following along......

Whoever stated that this is Gibberish apparently has done the same...
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Postby London » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:31 am

TamTam

Are they not trying to use this cell-wall deficient bacteria to treat basal
cell carcinomas.

I do believe I observed the stromatolitic microbial mat community when I was foraging for things while diving in the ocean. Could you be so kind as to tell me if this is correct?

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Postby London » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:01 pm

This is a “Type III Secretion”

Enterobacteriaceae

Biofilm formation by Gram(-) motile rods such as Escherichia coli, Vibrio cholerae and Pseudomonas aeruginosa (all from the gamma proteobacterial branch)

Instant Pathenogens: Shigella dysenteriae (5), Yersinia pestis (6), Mycobacterium tuberculosis (7) and may be indeed, as suggested above, V. cholerae.


Recombinant Y. pseudotuberculosis can secrete and even deliver ExoS into HeLa cells, just like YopE. Y. pseudotuberculosis can also secrete IpaB from S. flexneri and S. typhimurium can secrete YopE.

And cant forget the bezines can we?….-very toxiokinetic, if you will.
Subject ALKALI METAL COMPOUNDS;CARBONACEOUS MATERIALS;CHALCOGENIDES;COAL;ENERGY SOURCES;FOSSIL FUELS;FUELS;HYDROGEN COMPOUNDS;HYDROXIDES;INORGANIC ACIDS;MINERALS;OXIDES;OXYGEN COMPOUNDS;PETROLEUM PRODUCTS;PROCESSING;REACTOR MATERIALS;SODIUM COMPOUNDS;SULFUR COMPOUNDS;SULFUR OXIDES

Nonsocomial infections: wow, these can include so much.Enterococcus faecalis.

How about:
Lactobacillus and Streptococcus??? Oh how they have run rampant.

But let’s take a look at these..Tam Tam, I hope your
with me. I do like your feedback. First let’s look at:

************Prototheca wickerhamii**************

Prototheca is an achlorophyllic mutant of the green alga Chlorella.

And this brings me to my favorite: WOOD & CELLULOSE the building blocks
For chemicals.

Cellulose derivatives are use in many of the makings of pharmaceuticals. They do this by washing the wood.

"What has been the role of major U.S. foundations in supporting the implementation of Agenda 21 and in financing key sustainable development projects in the United States and around the world?"

hmmm.....Money is not at the root of all evil but the damn Rice plant is....Arabidopsis!!! I nearly go blind when I eat rice. They want to run the world off this plant. World hunger,fuels...you name it. They even used a Human Liver Gene.

and now the Replication of Norovirus murine norovirus 1(MNV-1) that should have stayed on the cruiseships.

Must run for now. I will return with later in a couple of hours. Again,
C-3/ TamTam...can you tell me if I'm on track?

And oh my-those carboxymethlylated fibers hurt me!! They are in a lot of womens feminine products and now even in diapers. Those poor babies.

Sincerely,

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Postby tamtam » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:02 pm

London,

The art is in excluding, not including.
Basal? I think this connection is correct but also a rather basal conclusion

Think about somatic cell nuclear transfer for a moment.
What does infect, if all looks so natural.
You put me to work.

I like to remind You that I have a blue print in front of me and not result of multiple screening.

Multi nucleated cell type langerhans and what next?

In fact You look at things not very known to most microbiologists.
Fission and multi lineage differentiation is key.
Pathway thus systematic.

Dr. Schwartz protocol is rather right except that prototheca is not very well covered, maybe better opt for amikacine.


C3 ?

If C represents cyano
What could represent 3 ?

Think about Blake and a hawling rose.
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Postby London » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:43 am

Tam Tam,

Can I "BUY"$$$ the answer??

Will report in later. So far it runs the gamut. Except for sister Rose....:
*Rosettes*
Caulonema cell at the tip of Funaria: freeze fracture of the plasma membrane. The protein molecules are partially arranged in rosettes. It is likely that these aggregates are a component of the cellulose synthethase complex (E. SCHNEPF,1986). The rosettes are thought to spin out
cellulose microfibrils while moving through the plant plasma
membrane. The diagram is simplified in that about six cellulose
polymers must emerge in association with each rosette particle.
In this way, thirty-six polymers can be synthesized in close
proximity and co-crystalize into one microfibril.

J.Blake?

How about apopstosis?? Cell Death? The environment required to be healthy is quite lonely.

Still unsure of answer for C-3: many deductions take time.

Dimensions are 3.

Could you be so kind to extrapolate information that you may have regarding the parasite? C-E-is this because of smell or b/c of blueprint?

Blueprint should be shared. Do you have this disease or do you have the blueprint? Guesstimate the % of world's population currently being effected by this please.

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Postby yyz » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:27 pm

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Postby yyz » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:58 pm

trichoid, a. hair-like. trichology, n. study of hair. trichome, n. hair-like outgrowth on the surface of a plant. trichosis n. any disease of the hair.
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Postby Skytroll » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:35 pm

:?:

Volvox?

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Postby tamtam » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:41 pm

That may again relate to a gene that codes for mold in e.g a nematode etc.

The article about cellulose brought already terminal complex.


Sleep and repeat number 3
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