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Postby Cilla » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:33 pm

Hi DJ,

You said:

'I am also completely qualified to take samples and make observations, and I never said I was going to assess someone's mental condition!!! This is crazy.'


I agree that scientists within a laboratory are qualified to receive samples that have been delivered to them by, e.g. the referring health care professional. They are then qualified to make observations on the samples, and subsequently to send a report on their findings back to the referring physician, or other health care professional.

You stated, in the post to which I was referring, that you wanted the patients themselves to visit you with their samples, and you would then make an assessment. You also wished one patient, who feels that they have this disease, to liaise with you, as their ongoing condition would augment your thesis, as you are not yet fully qualified.

I said that no reputable university would condone this, because you are unqualified, because the nature of this disease is as yet unknown, and because patients with such horrific clinical features need to be examined and treated by a physician.

Obviously, research is required, and I think that Skytroll is absolutely on the money when she suggests that scientists such as yourself should liaise with the Morgellons Research Foundation.

I think that you are open minded enough to see that there may well be a lot of truth behind the facts stated by the individuals who have opened their lives on this, and on other related websites. I am very glad about this, because research input from scientists is urgently required.

One thing I would say regarding your protestation about not assessing another's mental condition is that you already did so in an earlier post when you said that Ruth's account of her moth experience could not have come from a person who had a rational mind. You in fact advised her to consult a psychiatrist to exclude mental illness. You have yet to apologize, which I find sad, especially when subsequent posts, including one from the obviously highly knowledgeable Tamtam, have demonstrated that her account could well not only be true, but actually based upon her fine eye for detail.

Can you not imagine how Ruth must feel? This disease is dreadful, and people are suffering terribly. The things that seem to emerge from these sores, and the impact of apparently multiple squirming parasites, are so horrible and draining on the health of the affected individual that they almost defy belief. It is no exaggeration to say that their lives are in danger of being destroyed. The presenting clinical features are weird, and beyond anything ever seen by doctors before. This does not make them untrue.

In the past, patients suffering from particularly debilitating infectious diseases, such as pulmonary tuberculosis, were treated well.

I do not see much evidence of patients with the fiber disease, who are just as, if not more so, debilitated, being treated well at all. I think it is sheer evil if health care professionals choose not to listen to the patient's account of what is happening to their own bodies, and instead plump too quickly to a diagnosis of delusional parasitosis. Such a diagnosis can have devastating effects on a person's life, quite apart from the fact that they are still not receiving treatment for the actual condition they have.

Individuals like Tamtam should receive a medal. He is courageous enough to speak out, although I have a feeling that he has not yet divulged everything.

Thank God for the internet, and sites such as this. Had this happened, say twenty or thirty years ago, people would be isolated and very unsure about what might be wrong with them. People used to be much more cowed, and overly respectful of the medical profession. Not any more. People, such as the ones on this site, are not going to give up until a cure is found. More power to them.
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Postby Skytroll » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:51 pm

silica, nanowires, buckyballs

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:32 pm

fibritin, fibrils, foo

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:34 pm

red algae, zebra mussels

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:37 pm

Aliens in the waters.

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Postby London » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:57 pm

Very aware of Trichoid hair-they concentrate on the appendages. Had learned of this a while back from Mr. Merritt of Queensland.

and.....K + flow Inward into the dendrite depolarizes the cell. Active potentials involve voltage-gated SODIUM CHANNELS.

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Postby London » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:24 am

We're not going to take the chemtrail route are we? OR are we?

Clusters of 4? or shall I say formation = square?

I know about the warehouse in Glascow.

Scaling anyone?

I have seen the Rotifers. What about Mr. Duffy TamTam? What do you say about his antigens?


Again, had already posted about sporotrichosis......SAPROPHYTIC PLANTS ....
SEE:http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/lifeforms/saprophyticplants/

Fungi that are saprophytic normally cause subcutaneous infections...these fungi often change their physiology and morphology-often growing as yeast-like single cells instead of filaments to aACCLIMATIZE to life in their host.
When the fungus starts to grow the host's cell often respond by dividing rapidly resulting in warts and tumors. Yeast like cells can be spread thru the lypmphatic system.



Cortical Microtubuli



Cortical microtubuli in elongated plant cells. The microtubuli are labelled with indirect immunofluorescence. The pattern of orientation of the microtubuli correlates with the arrangement of the cell wall's cellulose fibrils. a: microtubuli in a meristematic cell of Allium (photo by L. CLAYTON and C. W. LLOYD, 1985). b: microtubuli within an apical protonema cell of Physcomitrella patens (J. H. DOONAN, D. J. COVE and C. W. LLOYD, 1985)

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Postby London » Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:09 am

TamTam,

Would you be so kind to exclude the gyrA muations if they're not relevant? I'm stuck on them at the moment.

Also the Rx Carrinsyn? what do you think?

THE EFFECT OF CARRISYN ® ON THE IMMUNE SYSTEM.
J. Measel and D. Denham (Spon: L. Allen). May 1998.

Carrisyn ® is a polysaccharide purified from the Aloe vera plant. The plant has been used as a medicine in treatment of burns. Initial experiments used murine spleen cells from BALB/c mice stimulated with Con A and/or Carrisyn ® . Radioactive counts and visual counts indicated that Carrisyn ® had a direct mitogenic effect on macrophages. Subsequently, a murine model using tumor target cells and macrophages stimulated with Carrisyn ® was utilized. Release of Cr 51 from labeled target cells was assessed. The results indicate that Carrisyn ® activated macrophages are upwards of 10 times more effective in non-specific lysis of tumor cells than non-stimulated controls. The effect of complement or non-specific antibody did not increase this phagocytosis. The results indicate that Carrisyn ® is a non-specific immune modulator which may be useful in the non-specific enhancement of macrophage.


Still searching the 3's but I think I have 3 good ones. Still searching. Are you thinking about the offer?

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Postby krisb » Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:23 am

Hi Sabrina and Tamtam, thank you for your postings. I do test positive for Lyme and have been treated with antibiotics with no result. I have the Morgellons skin rash and itching and also itching in my nose with brown sediment growing on the back of my throat (feels like hairs on back of throat). My children and I got this back in January after a lice infection. We are all miserable and frightened. The skin rashes and loss of hair is depressing. We are desperate for a cure. Could you please share with me anything that you have found that has been helpful--I am fearful the hair loss will be permanent. I am most frightened for my children (ages 8 and 13). Thank you, Kris
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Warehouse in glascow

Postby southcity » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:50 am

London, hi how are you. Could you tell me more about the warehouse in glascow.. I believe you are on to something. Caledonian is perhaps more specific? Just a hunch. definitely would like to know your train of thought here.. Thanks in advance.

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quote="London"]We're not going to take the chemtrail route are we? OR are we?

Clusters of 4? or shall I say formation = square?

I know about the warehouse in Glascow.

Scaling anyone?

I have seen the Rotifers. What about Mr. Duffy TamTam? What do you say about his antigens?


Again, had already posted about sporotrichosis......SAPROPHYTIC PLANTS ....
SEE:http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/lifeforms/saprophyticplants/
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Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
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Postby Skytroll » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:27 pm

going back to school

such a fool

will learn to be cool

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