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Postby Skytroll » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:55 pm

Nestin:

Oh yeah:

http://www.nhnscr.org/

Look at these suckers move:

http://www.nhnscr.org/6slowsmall.mpeg

Right where the CONTROL CENTERS ARE:

http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/fu ... /9357/FIG1

There will be more

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:57 pm

Not from agrobacterium then it has to be this:

Gene control:

http://www.neuromics.com/ittrium/visit? ... 1y1x10b5x1

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:59 pm

buying and selling of genes The new dot com business. EXCELLENT!

http://www.neuromics.com/ittrium/visit? ... x1y1xe31x1

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Passive agressive

Postby RANDY » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:59 am

Barz wrote:Randy,

Please ask Citovsky why the MOST PULBISHED MAN ON AGROBACTERIUM in the world can't get funding for this? This is just the funniest thing I have read yet. We need to contribute to his funding. Lets reasearch how many times that has happened to him before. And hell, if the leading researcher for Agrobacterium has already identified it in morgellons patients wel. . . .


I presume this is a no. I already told you in a PM why he needs money as does Randy Wymore. But if your way of saying no is to say he does not need it..so be it. Just for a hint: That is called passsive agressive behavior.

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Postby London » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:37 am

I said this way back when this fiber strand was shut down and we had that 14 page other one open......that I predicted Salmonella would play a role in our disease.....I think I'm right. I had remembered when Sue from Lymebusters was telling us what all Josh was diagnosed with.

Well, I just read that yes, there is a protein in Salmonella that: 1. is STEALTH and 2. it multiplies in the macrophages......(in other words, they are causing our immune system not to function properly. You guys, this is just like Jill said...."It is rather Layered!" I do not think this agrobacterium Ti is the biggest cause, although it is significant.

So, it's the isolated protein they (the biotech A-holes) used that is also doing some damage. I will try to look it up and post the name of it later.
________________________________

So you want to know where one should focus their studies of this disease?

Carbon sequastration, Plasmas, wastewater, uranium.

Here you go, it's Princton Prettys doing a bad-A Plasma Lab **NOTE the name GOVERNMENT in the hyperlink below???? HUH???? Yes the US friggin warped ARSE gov't. They make me sick.......example

"Well Mr. US Gov't, why did the US not drop rations via helicopters to the dying individuals in New Orleans during the Hurricane Katrina Horror?

" WELL Mr. Interviewer that is a good question, and the simple answer is THE FACT THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE SITUATION DOWN THERE....'' >>>>>>BIGGEST COP-OUT IN HISTORY.....THE F-STICKS SUCK ROCKS.

OR,,,,,,, CONDELICA ON A LYING WARPATH JUST LAST WEEK WHEN SHE LIED ABOUT 9-11 AND RECIEVING BRIEFS 2 MONTHS BEFORE THOSE REMOTE CONTROLLED LANES CRASHED INTO THE TOWERS......

YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAID AND BY GOD GOT AWAY WITH????? SHE SAID SHE JUST DID NOT RECALL BEING BRIEFED ABOUT IT.

I KNEW IN MY HEART OF HEARTS WHEN THE HURRICANE HIT LAST YEAR THAT HELL YEAH THE GOV'T WAS BEHIND IT......ESPECIALLY
WHEN I WATCHED IN COMPLETE SHOCK AND HORROR AS THOSE POOR-ARSE PEOPLE SUFFERED FROM HEAT AND NO WATER OR BATHROOM FACILITES. CANADA RESUE WORKERS WERE THERE BEFORE WE WERE......WAY BEFORE........

AT LEAST FIDEL CASTRO PUT SOME FIRE ON THERE ASSES AND MADE THEM LOOK LIKE DUMB-F.-STICKS WHEN HE CALLED OUR GOV'T AND OFFERED TO SEND HIS OWN DOCTORS TO HELP SINCE WE HAD NONE ON THE SCENE........

I HATE OUR GOV'T, HATE THEM.

OH WELL, HERE'S THE HYPERLINK:

http://www.pppl.gov/

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HEY ADMINISTRATORS OF THIS SITE: THE 3-D THING IS ACTIVATED AGAIN.....AS I'M TYPING THIS, I CAN CLEARLY SEE THE HOLLOW HOLE WITH THE EMOTICONS IN THE BACKGROUND. AND THE DARK BLUE LINE THAT SAYS ADD ATTACHMENT WILL SHIFT TO THE RIGHT, THEN BACK TO THE LEFT. WHAT IS UP WITH THIS????

http://www.pppl.gov/

Also, here is what they don't want us to find out......I think it will become more important than the Agrobacterium. It is:

Rhodobacter sphaeroides,


it is a microbe that grows under a variety of conditions using a variety of electron acceptors. Its diverse abilities include metal reduction, nitrogen fixation, and the assimilation of carbon dioxide. Additionally, R. sphaeroides can produce abundant amounts of hydrogen, which could potentially prove to be a source of renewable energy. Many of these abilities are linked to R. sphaeroides' photosynthetic apparatus.

So do some googling on sphaeroides and let's see what we can get.....I also said coal would be involved>>>just had a deep feeling that was what was behind those damn black specs that all kept saying chiton......bullshit, if it was anything like that it would have been lichon. (sp?)

Well I think I may have been correct (re: Coal) but do not know for sure/// what? It';s FLY ASH!!!!

NOW I GAVE 3-4 GOOD THINGS HERE AND WOULD SO APPRECIATE IT IF ANYONE HAS THE TIME TO CHECK THEM OUT AND REPORT THEIR FINDINGS BACK TO US.
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Postby Nadas Moksha » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:47 am

order up!

U.S. Pat. Nos.

5,225,539; 5,530,101; and 5,585,089),
veneering or resurfacing??????????????????

Completely human antibodies which recognize a selected

epitope can be generated using a technique referred to as

"guided selection." In this approach a selected non-human

monoclonal antibody.
The activation of a death-domain receptor.

The invention may be associated with heterologous

polypeptides, heterologous nucleic acids, toxins, or prodrugs

via hydrophobic, hydrophilic, ionic and/or covalent

interactions. In one embodiment, the invention provides a

method for the specific delivery of compositions of the

invention to cells by administering polypeptides of the

invention (including antibodies) that are associated with

heterologous polypeptides or nucleic acids.
A nucleic acid encoding the immunoglobulin may be

chemically synthesized primers hybridizable to the 3' and

5' ends of the sequence may then be cloned into replicable cloning vectors using any method well known in the art.
It is engineered so that the cleavage recognition site is

located near the 5' end of the mRNA; i.e., to increase

efficiency and minimize the intracellular accumulation of

non-functional mRNA transcripts.
As in the antisense approach, the ribozymes of the invention

can be composed of modified oligonucleotides (e.g. for

improved stability, targeting, etc.) and should be delivered to

cells which express polypeptides of the present invention in

vivo. DNA constructs encoding the ribozyme may be

introduced into the cell in the same manner as described above

for the introduction of antisense encoding DNA. A preferred

method of delivery involves using DNA reconstruct

"encoding" the ribozyme under the control of a strong

constitutive promoter, such as, for example, pol III or pol II

promoter, so that transfected cells will produce sufficient

quantities of the ribozyme to destroy endogenous messages

and inhibit translation. Since ribozymes unlike antisense

molecules, are catalytic, a lower intracellular concentration is

required for efficiency.
Antagonist/agonist compounds may be employed to inhibit

the cell growth and proliferation effects of the polypeptides of

the present invention on neoplastic cells and tissues.
The present invention further includes an expression vector

comprising phage operator and promoter elements operatively

linked to a polynucleotide of the present invention, called

pHE4a. (ATCC Accession Number 209645, deposited on Feb.

25, 1998.) This vector contains: 1) a

neomycinphosphotransferase gene as a selection marker, 2) an

E. coli origin of replication, 3) a T5 phage promoter sequence,

4) two lac operator sequences, 5) a Shine-Delgarno sequence,

and 6) the lactose operon repressor gene (lacIq). The origin of

replication (oriC) is derived from pUC19 (LT1, Gaithersburg,

Md.). The promoter sequence and operator sequences are

made synthetically.
The polypeptides of the present invention are preferably fused

to other proteins. These fusion proteins can be used for a

variety of applications. For example, fusion of the present

polypeptides to His-tag, HA-tag, protein A, IgG domains, and

maltose binding protein facilitates purifications. (See Example

5; see also EP A 394,827; Traunecker, et al., Nature, 331:84

86 (1988)) The polypeptides can also be fused to heterologous

polypeptide sequences to facilitate secretion and intracellular

trafficking (e.g., KDEL). Moreover, fusion to IgG-1, IgG-3,

and albumin increases the halflife time in vivo. Nuclear

localization signals fused to the polypeptides of the present

invention can target the protein to a specific subcellular

localization, while covalent heterodimer or homodimers can

increase or decrease the activity of a fusion protein. Fusion

proteins can also create chimeric molecules having more than

one function.the polynucleotide constructs are administered as

naked polynucleotides via electroporation. However, the

polynucleotide constructs may also be administered with

transfection-facilitating agents, such as liposomes, viral

sequences, viral particles, precipitating agents, etc. Such

methods of delivery are known in the art.this example, the

plasmid shuttle vector pA2 is used to insert a polynucleotide

into a baculovirus to express a polypeptide. This expression

vector contains the strong polyhedrin promoter of the

Autographa californica nuclear polyhedrosis virus (AcMNPV)

followed by convenient restriction sites such as BamHI, Xba I

and Asp718. The polyadenylation site of the simian virus 40

("SV40") is used for efficient polyadenylation. For easy

selection of recombinant virus, the plasmid contains the

beta-galactosidase gene from E. coli under control of a weak

Drosophila promoter in the same orientation, followed by the

polyadenylation signal of the polyhedrin gene. The inserted

genes are flanked on both sides by viral sequences for

cell-mediated homologous recombination with wild-type viral

DNA to generate a viable virus that express the cloned

polynucleotide.
A typical mammalian expression vector contains a promoter

element, which mediates the initiation of transcription of

mRNA, a protein coding sequence, and signals required for

the termination of transcription and polyadenylation of the

transcript. Additional elements include enhancers, Kozak

sequences and intervening sequences flanked by donor and

acceptor sites for RNA splicing. Highly efficient transcription

is achieved with the early and late promoters from SV40, the

long terminal repeats (LTRs) from Retroviruses, e.g., RSV,

HTLVI, HIVI and the early promoter of the cytomegalovirus

(CMV). However, cellular elements can also be used (e.g., the

human actin promoter).
The engineered fibroblasts are then injected into the host,

either alone or after having been grown to confluence on

cytodex 3 microcarrier beads. The fibroblasts now produce the

protein product. The fibroblasts can then be introduced into a

patient as described above.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7078186.html

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Postby London » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:50 pm

Nadas,

Don't take this the wrong way, but "I love you man!" :wink: :lol: :lol:

Good one. I'm in pain today...legs hurt v.bad at the top of inner thigh. Feels like glands are swollen. Blah,blah my miserable life goes on.....

and on.....oh God, how long do you think we have Nadas? Skytroll, what's your take on it? I mean 9 months or 2-4 years, or 15 years?

I really would like you guys opinions. Hey Nad, please answer back and be v.honest- I can take the worst, b/c I have already thought that
these last two months. I also wanted your opinion on this....is there anything one can do to reverse it? I mean there is out there something called virus inactivations.....and Nadas, say you knew the answer to that and it was a vehement NO, then do you think there is anything to do
to prolong whatever time we have left? Like, of course (hypothetical here) AIDS :arrow: the first batch they made up, well, we know that lifestyle choices and so on will indeed benefit one in this area....but from my reading, if this goes (or finally test positive for) what I think it will be-which is multifocal leukoencephalapathy, then there is nothing that can be done. It is a v.progressive, incurrable AIDS.....WE NEED TO THINK OF A NEW ACRONYM FOR AIDS LIKE : A-HOLES, IDIOTS & DELUSIONAL SCIENTIST........YEAH, THAT WORKS. HAH.

HEY, I'M SORRY TO ALL TO BE SO VOCAL ABOUT MY LOVE OF MY COUNTRY, I MEAN THAT TOO. LET'S JUST SAY I WISH I WOULD HAVE SAID I DO NOT CARE FOR THE WAY GOV'T ARE RAN. I MEAN, I HATE OUR SOLDIERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER THERE BUT I LOVE THEM AND CARE FOR THEM AS WELL. I KNOW THAT THEIR COMMANDERS :arrow: G.I. JOE Bosses told them to go kill and that there were no rules....okay, sad, so snap snap...."subject change"

Let's see......I miss TAMTAM does anyone else? TAMTAM are you okay?
Please just drop in and say something stupid sounding (although it won't be stupid, it will just sound like it) PLEASE????
And TamTam, I may not be posting here after I finish reading some great new documentation I have found-it may take me a week to read all of it. If so, then that is when I will decide, but since I'm talking to you/about you right now, I just wanted to go ahead and say that I'm very grateful for everything you have done for us. I mean that too. You only made me wanna slap you once or twice for confusing me with uranium or the bird flue or antibiotics to the animals??? and you would not say yes or no if those 3 were involved or not. But hey, I think they all were / are involved. I also got weirded out when they said the Morg Research foundation was a farce and right afterwards> maybe 2 weeks later I heard you and Mary L were buds.....well, it was most confusing. Not that she has done anything wrong, hell, I dunno. I certainly have not seen any proof. so thanks again TamTam, I love you man too!

I'm gonna do a you: The fibers are a stray target that will differentiate.
Nota Bean. Fibers are a product of pretome. Fibers are quoram sensing.

The target represents a fusion of a mayor parasitic protozoa including multiple mammal gene in-put and multiple insect cell in-put.
Silk worm is not excluded.

Lepidoptera is dominant in culture.

The target is brought in culture.
Observation is based on about 180 cultures.

Multiple gene expression synomymous with multi lineage differentiation is fact: thus stem cell related.

This dominant type gene expression in the form of a semi autonomous and sensing fiber is in fact a break away group cell.
A variant form (a re- combination)

Lepidoptera is one dominant gene in-put

Its overall character is in-between plant(cellulose) and insect (chitin)cell.
Hence multi lineage differentiation synonymous with stem cell related.

Fibers show in-between behavior like:
"plant cell that think they are insect cell"

All elements are quorum sensing
All elements differentiate

Its intermediate stage resembles a (quorum sensing) transparent gel (agar) that actually constitutes a protoplasm and indeed this protoplasm may be loaded with plasmids
(vector in the form of virus or DNA mimicking protein)
This feat may indicate DNA transfer.

Multi lineage differentiation is fact.

Fibers constitute protein most resembling cellulose.
Specks are chitin like polymers

keywords: insect cuticle/ sensillae/ artificial skin

Colors of the fibers relate to the colored wing pattern of lepidoptera.
Actually fibers constitute variants with a semi parasitic nature.

The systemic disease you suffer from is caused by a set commensal resembling quorum sensing made micro organisms.

Its base architecture is a cyanobacterium fused with a mayor parasitic protozoa
(to include cyclical and variant glycoprotein properties)

Multiple dominant gene expression can be observed in culture.

Also random re-combination is fact.
Re-combinations represent variant.

Fibers are variant
(novel plant/ insect like cell)

Hence; multi lineage differentiation is fact.
Multi lineage differentiation is in particular stem cell related.
Also quorum sensing is a stem cell like property hehehe......those were my favorites.....I did not know what in the hell you were talking about. Now, I kind of do. I have learned a lot this past miserable year and I'm most appreciative of you. You know what else? About 4-5 months ago, I came to the conclusion that you were just trying to throw us off- distact us, now, well now I believe every word of what you are saying.....about the micro organism anyway.....I do but I just have a new perspective on it now. It must be from the fusions that they made this lil bitch. I 'm assuming (and yes, I know, it's stupid to "assume") but I am anyway and that is maybe that it is the synthetic beast from hell created from a simulator.??? HUH? Damn, won't you give me that much info before you go and I croak- won't you Tam? I have been your best student (I think) so go ahead then, tell me........ :) I miss you already. How come the other of your followers are not filing law suits? Well, maybe they are.

Tam, one last thing, You think we would have a better chance if we grouped together, yeah right? Well, if we did not and went solo, do you think that there is no way a law suit would have a chance then?

Bye........My lil TAMTAM........ :( :( :(

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Look, to all guilty parties that may read this board here, I'm tired of strring up problems and saying mean things, I'm very ill. If I quit the namegame (and I really have not even warmed up), will someone in your secret robotic,space, cloning, electrical grid and wastewater fraternity, please tell us what will help us in the biggest of ways? don't say use this oil or take this herb......i'm talking like will that oxygen thing help? Tam said no (I think he did, could be mistaken here) or, what about that blood recirculating /cleansing thing.....kind of like Magic Johnson did. Will that help?

Look, I'm being truthful, I'm sorry if I have said things about your organization but one thing, I did not lie.....My intentions are not to hurt and destroy/or cause waves but dammit, I'm so ill. Please, I beg of someone to just email or PM me or hell, post it here. I will give this another week. Have a heart for a day Biotech Monsters, okay?
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And, maybe I was wrong, maybe those three forums I have been affiliated with are not all in cahooots together.......I don't know and don't care to find out anymore......I just need to know basically if rthe above things( treatments/thereapies) will do any good or not (or any other recommendations, And I really do need to know a time span I have left.
I am completely broken now and hate to w/draw the only money I have left (My retirement money) if there is a chance this will let us live another 10 years or so. Please, someone tell us?

I will take a polygraph test and state that I will not ever post again if I get the above things answered.

And Randy, no offense, I promise, but I still stand by what I said this disease def. caused......b/c I used a very wide, but correct name for it (which encompasses a lot) when I said a MITOCHONDRIAL DISEASE> a dimyelation of the neural sheath.......in other words it could also be called one of the X-Diseases.......this is very layered......the outcome of what we have........dementia, bad plasma, r arthritis, genes translocation and friggin branches of a gdamn plant coming out ofmy bicep!

Hey, Biotech person that I just know is going to give us some pointers: " tell me about shower filters?" So we need a certain kind? Please disclose.

Sincerely,

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Postby J Jill » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:32 pm

London,

Per your request, I went Googling-

Found the link below but can not open the Zip files- one of which interest me a great deal- "draft analysis- Oak Ridge Nat'l lab". Ah well.


http://mmg.uth.tmc.edu/sphaeroides/

Excerpt:

Rhodobacter sphaeroides

The bacterium Rhodobacter sphaeroides, shown here undergoing cell division,belongs to the a-subdivision of the Proteobacteria. This group of bacteria are among the most metabolically diverse organisms known, being capable of growing in a wide variety of growth conditions. For example, R. sphaeroides possesses an extensive range of energy acquiring mechanisms including photosynthesis, lithotrophy, aerobic and anaerobic respiration. It can also fix molecular nitrogen, synthesize important tetrapyrroles, chlorophylls, heme, and vitamin B12.

It has extremely facile methodologies for genetic manipulations, gene transfer, genetic analyses, chromosomal mobilization, etc. In addition, R. sphaeroides 2.4.1 has been shown to detoxify a number of metal oxides and oxyanions and is the subject of ongoing studies on bioremediation. R. sphaeroides 2.4.1 is also the first free living bacterium known to utilize the regulatory systems associated with quorum-sensing. Other recent findings reveal that the methods of motility and environmental sensing in relation to bacterial taxis, and movement in R. sphaeroides, are unique both genetically and physiologically. This organism also possesses a number of traits and characteristics which show interesting similarities to those of the mammalian mitochondrion.

end excerpt

I can see where this would be handy to use for a variety of reasons.



Like yourself, I believe there are a number of variables involved in this disease. As I said, it seems to be layered.

IMO, the Mycoplasma is the catalyst- all else follows;


Below is a post I made on a board some time ago-

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I've been reading the research of Boyd Graves and I think he is on to
something here. The only point where I disagree with him
is in the area of the 'target'. I believe this scourge to be equal opportunity.

http://www.boydgraves.com/flowchart/

The images that he presents of Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus- found
in the liver

of a person with AIDS- prove the origin of the disease.

Since reading the work of Garth Nicolson years ago, I've come to understand the

origin of much of what we
term 'emerging diseases'. It all goes back to the mycoplasma.

Excerpt:
According to Dr. Shyh Ching Lo, the infectious agent of
HIV is a "new" strain of
pathogenic mycoplasma, with "special" biological properties for escape
of immune surveillance.

If what we say is true, then we should be able to compare E.M. photos
of ESP-1 virus and
Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus and find a perfect match. The 1971
ESP-1 E. M. Photo is located
at Nature New Biology, Volume 232, pp. 140 – 142, and issue 31. To
compare with HIV E. M.
photos. See, Science, January 1985, Volume 227, pp. 173 – 177.
end excerpt

http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/death_by ... e_from.htm
Fair use

**

Keeping in mind our information re: the many applications of
mycoplasma, the link

below by Boyd Graves is very informative- confirming actually.

**
http://crm.ncmonline.com/news/view_arti ... bf6e203e68

***

A bit of good news, some are making headway with HIV/AIDS. Dr Antelman for one- Silver is at the heart of the healing protocol.

I do not believe that I have HIV/AIDS, but I do believe that if you are DX'd with any of the "Emerging Diseases", you are on your way.

Out of many, ONE.

My DX was Fibro- also I have Osteo ( I call it Lyme arthritis). Then, there is the prolapsed mitral valve - that is new in the last 10 years. New to me, that is.

As I stated, the Myco (Fermentans incognitus- meaning man-made) is present in all of us- according to Dr Maurice Hilleman, chief virologist for the pharmaceutical company
Merck Sharp & Dohme (see below):

Excerpt:

MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases
Several strains of mycoplasma have been "engineered" to become more
dangerous. They are now being blamed for AIDS, cancer, CFS, MS, CJD
and other neurosystemic diseases.

Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 8, Number 5 (August-September 2001)
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazine.com
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
From our web page at: http://www.nexusmagazine.com

(c) by Donald W. Scott, MA, MSc (c) 2001
President
The Common Cause
Medical Research Foundation
190 Mountain Street, Suite 405
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada P3B 4G2
Tel/fax: +1 (705) 670 0180
PATHOGENIC MYCOPLASMA

A Common Disease Agent Weaponised

There are 200 species of Mycoplasma. Most are innocuous and do no
harm; only four or five are pathogenic. Mycoplasma fermentans
(incognitus strain) probably comes from the nucleus of the Brucella
bacterium. This disease agent is not a bacterium and not a virus; it
is a mutated form of the Brucella bacterium, combined with a visna
virus, from which the mycoplasma is extracted.

The pathogenic Mycoplasma used to be very innocuous, but biological
warfare research conducted between 1942 and the present time has
resulted in the creation of more deadly and infectious forms of
Mycoplasma. Researchers extracted this mycoplasma from the Brucella
bacterium and actually reduced the disease to a crystalline form. They
"weaponised" it and tested it on an unsuspecting public in North
America.

Dr Maurice Hilleman, chief virologist for the pharmaceutical company
Merck Sharp & Dohme, stated that this disease agent is now carried by
everybody in North America and possibly most people throughout the
world.

Despite reporting flaws, there has clearly been an increased incidence
of all the neuro/systemic degenerative diseases since World War II and
especially since the 1970s with the arrival of previously unheard-of
diseases like chronic fatigue syndrome and AIDS.

According to Dr Shyh-Ching Lo, senior researcher at The Armed Forces
Institute of Pathology and one of America's top mycoplasma
researchers, this disease agent causes many illnesses including AIDS,
cancer, chronic fatigue syndrome, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes,
multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, Wegener's disease and
collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and
Alzheimer's.

Dr Charles Engel, who is with the US National Institutes of Health,
Bethesda, Maryland, stated the following at an NIH meeting on February
7, 2000: "I am now of the view that the probable cause of chronic
fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia is the mycoplasma..."

(note- lab doc's confirm that Bb (Lyme pathogen) and Chronic Fatigue pathogen look the same under the scope)

I have all the official documents to prove that mycoplasma is the
disease agent in chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromyalgia as well as in
AIDS, multiple sclerosis and many other illnesses. Of these, 80% are
US or Canadian official government documents, and 20% are articles
from peer-reviewed journals such as the Journal of the American
Medical Association, New England Journal of Medicine and the Canadian
Medical Association Journal. The journal articles and government
documents complement each other.
How the Mycoplasma Works

The mycoplasma acts by entering into the individual cells of the body,
depending upon your genetic predisposition.

You may develop neurological diseases if the pathogen destroys certain
cells in your brain, or you may develop Crohn's colitis if the
pathogen invades and destroys cells in the lower bowel.

Once the mycoplasma gets into the cell, it can lie there doing nothing
sometimes for 10, 20 or 30 years, but if a trauma occurs like an
accident or a vaccination that doesn't take, the mycoplasma can become
triggered.

Because it is only the DNA particle of the bacterium, it doesn't have
any organelles to process its own nutrients, so it grows by uptaking
pre-formed sterols from its host cell and it literally kills the cell;
the cell ruptures and what is left gets dumped into the bloodstream.***

end excerpt

*** could this be the fibers ??? the dead cells?

Or is there another step in the process?

Perhaps fungus/parasites drawn to the individual (QS) with the above condition/s- the additional or new pathogens are also Bioengineered- such as London's Wolbachia wasps/ticks/bees/mice/etc- and add a new dimension ? Maybe the combinations causes the cellulose fibers?

Back to the good news:

Excerpt:

Harvard researcher Gerhard Scheuch stated that nasal inhalation of a
simple saline spray can stop the flu virus and tuberculosis dead in
their tracks. For reasons perhaps best known to Merck and others, this
potentially life-saving information did not receive wide distribution
in the popular press.

SNIP****

http://www.curesnaturally.com/Articles/ ... sc145.html

The basics can help- salt- in so many forms.

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Re: Hey guys

Postby standby » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:28 pm

Texasrose,

Still doing your mentors dirty work I see. Calling the very person who is responcible for so much recognistion (for your cause I should remind you) a lier. Trying to appear 'united' and helpful while It's evident there is no support from yall in this area so why have people email? Harrasement maybe? So highschool really, but I guess it makes yall feel BIG and important? Thing is, Miss Christy K B. you and your mentors ongoing childish tactics are actually quite helpful. This ain't highschool anymore.
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Postby Beth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:48 am

Sabrina,

My heart goes out to you and others.

I did some searching...

Brazil is where a lot of "amazing new things" come from. We should be up on it.

http://www.paho.org/English/HDP/HDR/ACHR-02-Simpson.PDF


The Federal Government decided to expand the genome project at the national level and launched the Brazilian Genome Project (Dec. 2000)
-Part of the National Program of Biotechnology and Genetic Resources (R$250 m)

-Comprises a network of 25 sequencing laboratories
-Objective: to sequence the genome of

Chomobacterium violaceum
..........................................

-abundant... in the waters of the Amazon Region

-opportunistic human pathogen (infection is fatal)
-produces violacein of trypanocidal and antibiotic activity***

-Produces a polyester similar to propylene and polyethylene***
............................................
from Brazil...

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... D%26sa%3DG

Of the biological point of view, the importance of the microorganism is related its capacity to

>>>>produce polymers with characteristic of polypropylene (plastic), <<<<

with a great advantage: to be biodeagradável. “The knowledge of the genoma of the bacterium will be able to assist the production of this type of plastic in bigger amount for applications in medical and odontológicas próteses”, exemplifica the Tânia teacher. Already in the biotechnological area, studies come showing that the bacterium is capable to hold back metals heavy.

(that was a translation)
...............................................................

They do move....

They are motile. They are aerobic and facultatively anaerobic.


they do have color...

The violet pigment violacein is produced by many strains. Other related genera may be

Janthinobacterium and Iodobacter.


http://www.microbionet.com.au/chromobacterium.htm

Chromobacterium Species Profiles

Click Here



Species Profiles

These are Gram-negative, non-sporing non-acid fast small rods or coccobacilli (0.6-0.9µm x 1.5-3.0µm), which exhibit bipolar staining. They are motile. They are aerobic and facultatively anaerobic. They are oxidase-positive and catalase-positive. The violet pigment violacein is produced by many strains. Other related genera may be Janthinobacterium and Iodobacter.

Genera

Chromobacterium: There is currently only one species recognized within this genus; C. violaceum. It is motile with a single polar flagellum and up to four antigenically and structurally distinct lateral flagellae. It is a facultative anaerobe with a growth range from 15-40°C. Optimal growth is achieved at 30-35°C It charactistically produces violet colonies on nutrient agar. It can reduce nitrate to nitrite and carbohydrates can be fermented. It will grow on ordinary media. The GC content of the DNA is 65-68 mol%.

Species Profiles

C. violaceum
.........................................................
I hope this is of some use to you and I trust you will give it out to the necessary people, you know better than I who they are.

Bless you... and best of luck to you and your family.
They have all kinds of new things out recently and
they will have something for it if they know what it is.

if this is not that helpful you can always contact people in Brazil and give them info and ask questions.


ADDRESS Av. Prof. Lineu Prestes, 1374 Ed. Biomédicas 2 05508-900 São Paulo SP Brazil
Phone: ++55 11 3818.7499
Fax: ++55 11 3818.7354
E-Mail: cfmmenck@usp.br



FAPESP - R. Pio XI, 1500 - Alto da Lapa - CEP 05468-901 - São Paulo/SP - Brasil
Tel.: (+55) 11 3838 4000 Fax. (+55) 11 3645 2421 - E-mail: info@fapesp.br

Regards.... Beth
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Fiber Disease

Postby Beth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:00 am

Fibers constitute protein most resembling cellulose.
Specks are chitin like polymers


There is a big difference between cellulose and polymers!

Sabrina... I'm new and I hope you saw my other post... I just grabbed the above off another persons post because I think I saw that cellulose business on a Morgellons sp? site...

I'll paste it here, my 1st post, in case I made an error.



Sabrina,

My heart goes out to you and others.

I did some searching...

Brazil is where a lot of "amazing new things" come from. We should be up on it.

http://www.paho.org/English/HDP/HDR/ACHR-02-Simpson.PDF


The Federal Government decided to expand the genome project at the national level and launched the Brazilian Genome Project (Dec. 2000)
-Part of the National Program of Biotechnology and Genetic Resources (R$250 m)

-Comprises a network of 25 sequencing laboratories
-Objective: to sequence the genome of

Chomobacterium violaceum
..........................................

-abundant... in the waters of the Amazon Region

-opportunistic human pathogen (infection is fatal)
-produces violacein of trypanocidal and antibiotic activity***

-Produces a polyester similar to propylene and polyethylene***
............................................
from Brazil...

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... D%26sa%3DG

Of the biological point of view, the importance of the microorganism is related its capacity to

>>>>produce polymers with characteristic of polypropylene (plastic), <<<<

with a great advantage: to be biodeagradável. “The knowledge of the genoma of the bacterium will be able to assist the production of this type of plastic in bigger amount for applications in medical and odontológicas próteses”, exemplifica the Tânia teacher. Already in the biotechnological area, studies come showing that the bacterium is capable to hold back metals heavy.

(that was a translation)
...............................................................

They do move....

They are motile. They are aerobic and facultatively anaerobic.


they do have color...

The violet pigment violacein is produced by many strains. Other related genera may be

Janthinobacterium and Iodobacter.


http://www.microbionet.com.au/chromobacterium.htm

Chromobacterium Species Profiles

Click Here



Species Profiles

These are Gram-negative, non-sporing non-acid fast small rods or coccobacilli (0.6-0.9µm x 1.5-3.0µm), which exhibit bipolar staining. They are motile. They are aerobic and facultatively anaerobic. They are oxidase-positive and catalase-positive. The violet pigment violacein is produced by many strains. Other related genera may be Janthinobacterium and Iodobacter.

Genera

Chromobacterium: There is currently only one species recognized within this genus; C. violaceum. It is motile with a single polar flagellum and up to four antigenically and structurally distinct lateral flagellae. It is a facultative anaerobe with a growth range from 15-40°C. Optimal growth is achieved at 30-35°C It charactistically produces violet colonies on nutrient agar. It can reduce nitrate to nitrite and carbohydrates can be fermented. It will grow on ordinary media. The GC content of the DNA is 65-68 mol%.

Species Profiles

C. violaceum
.........................................................
I hope this is of some use to you and I trust you will give it out to the necessary people, you know better than I who they are.

Bless you... and best of luck to you and your family.
They have all kinds of new things out recently and
they will have something for it if they know what it is.

if this is not that helpful you can always contact people in Brazil and give them info and ask questions.


ADDRESS Av. Prof. Lineu Prestes, 1374 Ed. Biomédicas 2 05508-900 São Paulo SP Brazil
Phone: ++55 11 3818.7499
Fax: ++55 11 3818.7354
E-Mail: cfmmenck@usp.br



FAPESP - R. Pio XI, 1500 - Alto da Lapa - CEP 05468-901 - São Paulo/SP - Brasil
Tel.: (+55) 11 3838 4000 Fax. (+55) 11 3645 2421 - E-mail: info@fapesp.br

:) Regards.... Beth
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Postby Beth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:49 am

Sabrina... more info.


Seems a bacterium can be used as a source of biodegradable plastics.
I heard about it a long time ago... so they may have been experimenting with this a while...

Seems children or immunocompromised individuals can be infected with this.

There is a lot of info.

See definition of polymers below...

Because polymer chains are so long, these interchain forces are amplified far beyond the attractions between conventional molecules. Also, longer chains are more amorphous (randomly oriented). Polymers can be visualised as tangled spaghetti chains - pulling any one spaghetti strand out is a lot harder the more tangled the chains are.


It is established already that C. violaceum has the capacity for the synthesis of
polyhydroxyalkanoate polymers (18, 19), which have physical
properties similar to propylene, making them an important
renewable source of biodegradable plastic.

In addition, we have
now identified ORFs related to cellulose biosynthesis (CV2675,
CV2677, and CV2678) that also might represent a valuable
commodity, because bacterial cellulose differs from that produced
by plants in its three-dimensional structure, degree of
polymerization, and physicochemical properties (62).


If this is what you have.... they have known about it for a while.


C. violaceum is considered a saprophyte,


....................................................

http://www.biocrawler.com/encyclopedia/Saprophyte

A saprophyte used to be defined as any organism which obtained its energy from decaying animal or vegetable matter. Most species of Bacteria and Fungi were considered saprophytes. "Phyte" means plant. Saprophyte is thus an obsolete term because fungi and bacteria that feed on decaying organic matter

are no longer placed in the Plant Kingdom.

They should be termed saprobes or saprotrophs.

No embryophytes are now considered saprophytes so the term is completely obsolete. Plants that were once considered saprophytes, such as Indian pipe (Monotropa uniflora), are now known to be parasites on other plants. They are termed myco-heterotrophs because a mycorrhizal fungus connects the parasitic plant with its host plant.


Here is an excerpt (most info here is from this site) and the site address.
You may want to pass it around, or give it to your Doctor.


Although C. violaceum is considered a saprophyte,
it is also an occasional pathogen of human and animals with most
cases of human infection occurring either early in childhood or
in immunocompromised individuals (43). However, the fact that
the Rio Negro is the source of drinking water for the population
living around it, without there being widespread infection,
indicates the low infectivity of this organism.
The lack of frequent human infection would be expected to
select against the retention of purely pathogenesis-related genes.
Thus, an unexpected finding was the presence of ORFs encoding
type III secretory system (TTSS) components similar to those in
Salmonella typhimurium (44) and Yersinia pestis (45). The TTSS
is thought to be strictly associated with the infection of both
animal or plant cells and acts as a molecular syringe for the
secretion of effector molecules that provoke cytoskeletal rearrangements
in the host cell (46). Because effectors with similarity
to phytopathogen-associated genes (47) were not found, it seems
unlikely that TTSS in C. violaceum plays a role in plant infection.
Indeed, the similarity of the systems found to those in human
pathogens suggests that they contribute to human infection.
However, a detailed analysis of the S. typhimurium-like TTSS
showed that some key ORFs including invI and invH [which have
been demonstrated to play important roles in invasion (48, 49)]
and sicP [a Salmonella invasion chaperone involved with the
secretion of the tyrosine phosphatase SptP (50)] are absent in C.
violaceum. The lack of these and other pathogenicity-related
ORFs may account for the generally poor ability of the organism
to infect humans. It is likely that the presence of these islands is
isolate-specific. In PCR-based assays we found evidence for their
presence in some isolates from natural Brazilian environments
but not in others (see supplementary information at www.
brgene.lncc.brcviolaceum). The similarity of the two TTSSs
with those found in other bacterial species, their presence in
pathogenicity islands, and the fact that they are quite distinct
from those found in the closely related opportunistic pathogen
P. aeruginosa are all consistent with these ORFs being present in
the C. violaceum genome due to recent lateral transfer.
Twelve ORFS encoding hemolysin-like proteins (CV0231,
CV0360, CV0362, CV0513, CV0516, CV0656, CV1917, CV1918,
CV2873, CV3275, CV3342, and CV4301) are found in both virulent
and nonvirulent C. violaceum soil isolates (51). Type I and II
secretory systems, both found in the C. violaceum genome, are likely
to be also operative in free-living conditions despite their role as
virulence factors in pathogenic bacteria (52, 53). The same holds
true for genes coding for ubiquitous components of free-living
Gram-negative bacteria (54, 55), which may also play a significant
role in stimulating immune responses in the infected host such as
the cell-wall-associated lipopolysaccharide and peptidoglycan.
this herbicide, were found closely positioned in the genome. In
addition, ORFs for the synthesis of medically relevant compounds
include a polyketide synthase (CV4293) and other
proteins applicable to antibiotic synthesis, genes for the synthesis
of phenazine (CV0931 and CV2663) with potential antitumor
activity, and hemolysins (CV0231, CV0513, CV1918, CV3342,
and CV4301) with potential as anticoagulants.

It is established already that C. violaceum has the capacity for the synthesis of
polyhydroxyalkanoate polymers (18, 19), which have physical
properties similar to propylene, making them an important
renewable source of biodegradable plastic.

In addition, we have
now identified ORFs related to cellulose biosynthesis (CV2675,
CV2677, and CV2678) that also might represent a valuable
commodity, because bacterial cellulose differs from that produced
by plants in its three-dimensional structure, degree of
polymerization, and physicochemical properties (62).

Conclusions
The sequence and annotation data that we have generated reveal
that the adaptability and versatility that C. violaceum exhibits
depend on a large and complex genome containing a large
proportion of ORFs that are specifically related to the ability of
the organism to interact and respond to the environment. We
also demonstrate that this genomic complexity might have
practical importance in that it translates into the bacterium being
an important potential source of biotechnologically exploitable
genes. The identification of such genetic resources in C. violaceum,
a free-living tropical bacteria, justifies the contemplation
of strategic high-throughput programs to survey further the
genomes of such organisms. Their inclusion in the pipeline that
leads to the production of industrially useful genes, enzymes, and
secondary metabolites would benefit not only the biotechnological
and pharmaceutical industries in the developing world,
where most tropical biodiversity is located, but would also
provide a further stimulus to the preservation of the precious
ecosystems where these organisms are found.
The present and former staff from Ministe´rio da Cieˆncia e Tecnologia
(MCT)Conselho Nacional de Desenvolvimento Cientı´fico e Tecnolo
´gico (CNPq), particularly Almiro Blumenschein, Kumiko Mizuta,
Albanita Viana de Oliveira, Silvana Almeida Figueira de Medeiros,
Fla´vio Neves Bittencourt de Sa´, Fabio Paceli Anselmo, Maria da
Conceic¸a˜o A. de Oliveira, sper Abra˜o Cavalheiro, and Ana Lu´cia
Assad, are gratefully acknowledged for their strategic vision and enthusiastic
support for this project. Carlos Menck (Department of Microbiology,
Institute of Biomedical Sciences, University of Sa˜o Paulo), N.
Duran (Institute of Chemistry, Universidade de Campinas), Andre´
Goffeau (Universite´ de Louvain, Belgium), and Jenny Blamey (Fundacio
....................................................



From wikipedia....

Chemical properties of polymers
The attractive forces between polymer chains play a large part in determining a polymer's properties. Because polymer chains are so long, these interchain forces are amplified far beyond the attractions between conventional molecules. Also, longer chains are more amorphous (randomly oriented). Polymers can be visualised as tangled spaghetti chains - pulling any one spaghetti strand out is a lot harder the more tangled the chains are. These stronger forces typically result in high tensile strength and melting points.

The intermolecular forces in polymers are determined by dipoles in the monomer units. Polymers containing amide groups can form hydrogen bonds between adjacent chains; the positive hydrogen atoms in N-H groups of one chain are strongly attracted to the oxygen atoms in C=O groups on another. These strong hydrogen bonds result in, for example, the high tensile strength and melting point of kevlar. Polyesters have dipole-dipole bonding between the oxygen atoms in C=O groups and the hydrogen atoms in H-C groups. Dipole bonding is not as strong as hydrogen bonding, so ethene's melting point and strength are lower than Kevlar's, but polyesters have greater flexibility.

Ethene, however, has no permanent dipole. The attractive forces between polyethene chains arise from weak van der Waals forces. Molecules can be thought of as being surrounded by a cloud of negative electrons. As two polymer chains approach, their electron clouds repel one another. This has the effect of lowering the electron density on one side of a polymer chain, creating a slight positive dipole on this side. This charge is enough to actually attract the second polymer chain. Van der Waals forces are quite weak, however, so polyethene melts at low temperatures.

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Polymer characterization
The characterization of a polymer requires several parameters which need to be specified. This is because a polymer actually consists of a statistical distribution of chains of varying lengths, and each chain consists of monomer residues which affect its properties.

A variety of lab techniques are used to determine the properties of polymers. Techniques such as wide angle X-ray scattering, small angle X-ray scattering, and small angle neutron scattering are used to determine the crystalline structure of polymers. Gel permeation chromatography is used to determine the number average molecular weight, weight average molecular weight, and polydispersity. FTIR, Raman and NMR can be used to determine composition. Thermal properties such as the glass transition temperature and melting point can be determined by differential scanning calorimetry and dynamic mechanical analysis. Pyrolysis followed by analysis of the fragments is one more technique for determining the possible structure of the polymer.

Polymer known as polymer substrate is used for everyday banknotes in Australia, Romania, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Zambia, Vietnam, New Zealand and a few others, and the material is also used in commemorative notes in some other countries. The process of polymer substrate creation was developed by the Australia CSIRO.

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See also
Biopolymer
Electroactive polymers
Polymer chemistry
Polymerization
Polymer physics
Important publications in polymer chemistry
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External links
Polymer dictionary
Responsive Biopolymers for Drug Delivery and Imaging
Chemical Resistance of Fluoropolymers
Polymer Chemistry Hypertext, Educational resource
Polymer Chemistry Innovations
Materials for Organic devices
The Macrogalleria - a cyberwonderland of polymer fun!
Polymer & Plastics Glossary
International Journal of Polymer Analysis and Characterization
International Journal of Polymeric Materials
Polymer-Plastics Technology and Engineering
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