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Postby Skytroll » Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:46 pm


This article is long but ties into the one you talk of. The one about the cream not being made to heal the bacteriological weapons damage.
Wonder if it ties into this one.......some people there it never affected but the release affected everyone else around the lab.

This is about 4 strains of Anthrax.

And.......remember the experiment by Jan Smith, it does not burn.

Anthrax does not burn..........and 4 strains?

"International experts found four different strains (of the virus culture—author's note) of anthrax. Four different bacteria! Different, you understand? If a bomb exploded, would there really be four strains? How can you explain that people fell ill 50 kilometers away, but on the military base, where this explosion supposedly occurred, no one fell ill? Next door to the base is a tank division—two fatal cases…Believe me, if this was a single military release, two or three days and everyone would be finished!

Meanwhile, no one writes that several carcasses of cows with anthrax were brought into the brick factory to be burned in the furnace. But anthrax does not burn in a fire! The spores could have been carried off to anywhere through the chimney. The spores themselves live hundreds of years. As an example, no one has been able to live on the English island of Gruinard since the second world war. Biological weapons were tested there, including anthrax…"

No one fell ill with the anthrax at the military base!

And where was anthrax found here, in MD.

People lets look at Medelson's studies and the Ken Alibek fellow. .........MORE........snips......in conversation.......

Yevstigneyev: There was a shop where we really did make 4 samples of the American one-pound, two-pound and four-pound bombs. The worker, literally on his knees, made these "toys". But there was no other way—we had to learn how to evaluate the biological situation, if such weapons would be used. We assembled munitions, went out to an island in the Aral Sea, set up biological reconnaissance equipment, observed what kind of cloud formed, and so on…Now we have magnificent calculations which everyone is using, beginning with the Ministry of Defense itself and ending with the Ministry for Emergency Management.

But this was done considerably before the epidemic. In 1979, in a refrigerator of the laboratory of Sverdlovsk-19, only a few ampoules of anthrax bacteria were stored for vaccine testing. All of the powers that be knew this, which is incidentally why they pointed the finger at us.(11)

Following the accident at Sverdlovsk, Moscow had established a new biological warfare R&D facility in the isolated city of Stepnogorsk in Kazakhstan, to fill the potential production gap after the Soviets had to stop producing anthrax at Sverdlovsk. Here, an even more-virulent strain of anthrax, known as Alibekov anthrax, after Ken Alibek, who developed it, was produced that was three times as lethal as that produced in Sverdlovsk. The full extent of the Stepnogorsk operation – which had an estimated production capacity of 300 tons of anthrax spore in 220 days - and the environmental remediation challenge it presented did not become known to the U.S. until after Kazakhstan became an independent republic following the breakup of the Soviet Union and a U.S. team of scientists and officials were permitted to visit the facility in 1995.(12) The effort to clean up the Soviet biological warfare installations continues today, as does the effort to determine if any of the sinister expertise or the products of this hellish operation has made its way into the hands of hostile powers or groups in the world.

more info and full article:


inside this report you will find the word
"Sarcophagus" and look at its duplicate meanings.


Things are not as they seem............

And then Randy on the other hand, you have the bio/artificial life integration. (your second article) That one shows the eukaryote/prokaryote symbiosis. The one-celled and multi-celled become one. ETc.

Seems like we have more than one war on what could be called "The Fiber Disease" for us to fight. Wonder which is causing the most damage?

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Postby befour » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:22 pm

The government is building a highly classified facility to research biological weapons, but its closed-door approach has raised concerns.

By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, July 30, 2006; A01

On the grounds of a military base an hour's drive from the capital, the Bush administration is building a massive biodefense laboratory unlike any seen since biological weapons were banned 34 years ago.

The heart of the lab is a cluster of sealed chambers built to contain the world's deadliest bacteria and viruses. There, scientists will spend their days simulating the unthinkable: bioterrorism attacks in the form of lethal anthrax spores rendered as wispy powders that can drift for miles on a summer breeze, or common viruses turned into deadly superbugs that ordinary drugs and vaccines cannot stop.

(article continues...... at the following link)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 92_pf.html
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Postby Nadas Moksha » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:09 pm

too late...

anyone outside between 6am to 9am witness ... not the chemtrails but
THE SPACE BETWEEN.. the odd anthropamorphic shapes that "condensate"in the space that trails were not... like giga trilobites/cnidera spawning smaller copies getting hosed or cloaked in a chem blanket?
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Postby nettimo » Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:02 am

Hey folks,

Without going thru 200+ pages of posts, may I compare my fiber symptoms with yours?

Mine usually consist of barely visible or microscopic to a couple inches of white or colored fibers (mostly blue) regularly presenting from nearly every orifice (except my ears, as far as I am aware).

I pee fibers. Do you? Also flecks (like baby powder) and a hair sometimes.

They (tiny fibers) come out my nose when it itches, along with the specks, mucoblobs (which nearly always contain fibers: white, blue, red)--usually barely visible.

My skin symptoms vary. I assume I am in the ?early, or perhaps different manifestation of the disease. Often I feel prick like I am being stuck with a pin, and see a tiny lesion. I don't know if something is coming or going; I suspect both (i.e., autoinfection). I have had various bites, bruises, small plaques.

Most disturbing are the facial bites, especially around the eyes. I swear a week ago I exited the shower, found a fresh hole right under my eye, and seconds later an itch in my nose revealing a one-inch blue wavy fiber in my nose. I can't help but wonder if it came out under my eye and was re-entering my nose!!

I also have intermittent perianal itching, bites, lesions, and if I look on the TP, fibers there too. Several days ago, I passed a 10+ inch "hair" from my rectum, after intense itching/burning. This hair is very peculiar. It looks similar to regular hair and I wonder if others have "hairs" but do not recognize this as a symptom. And, as has been described, my hairs have "hairs" (white filaments) wrapped around them, some microscopic.

Worst of all was an episode of an immediate bite through my solf palate which scared the hell out of me. I was trying to clear, rinse, and gargle what I knew were critters in my mouth (brown bugs, scabs, white blobs, and fibers/tiny hairs). I was using wild oregano oil under my tongue, followed by listerine rinse and salt water gargle, with special attention to tiltling my head back to clear the slime from my nasopharynx. -- I got an immediate reaction, with a coughing spell like no other and swelling, with a hive and pinhole lesion in my soft palate. I swear the salt water rinse channelled from my frontal sinus into my mouth.

My fear is that if this bizarre critter can do that, it can enter the brain. Are we doomed?

I simply must know if any of you have these same symptoms.
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Postby SarahConnor » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:23 am

To Nettimo - I will say a big YES!! to your questions. All sounds too familiar, so sorry to hear you have this too.
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Postby SarahConnor » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:29 am

To Nadas Moksha - I looked at the link you provided with regards to Nanotechnology.

I found this link yesterday:


The reason I am rather interested in the Nano being involved in this is because this is something rather new to us, our environment etc.

I am aware that Nanoparticles are being used in a lot of stuff, ie. make up and apparently there hasn't been enough research done or evidence - which ever comes first - as to the overall safety and human health risks.

By the way - anyone on this website had a reply from the CDC? I have written and have heard nothing.

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Postby London » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:34 am


I have not been here in 2 days and I am currently reading your postings 2 pages back....so excited and just wanted to share.....and, as I clicked onto the next page to leave a post to you, I see there are many great post and new posters- this is great; can't wait to finish reading them.

Nadas, I saw in your first post on the last page where you mention a few things but in particular bees/wasp and you said HIVE...do you know what that is?

a simulator that accurately models the physical world at a nanometer scale.

I think it is called a nanohive if I'm not mistaken.

Hey, where are you TAMTAM?

Dear Systemic, I'm now reading your post (middle of last page) about the man that died from the stomach being eaten away from the parasite. Well, Systemic, I must say as I was in the middle of your post a light went off- yep, oh Relman, eh? From Stanford. I know of him. He has written a plethora of studies on the new cloned "Molecular Cat-Scratch Disease which is (for a fact; late stage HIV).....Hmmm, going to go finish your post but wanted to say thanks to you...

Oh yeah, good luck with Gore....he's in with the Stanford crowd...oh, yes he is....bad news....
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Postby Sabrina » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:30 am

SarahConnor wrote:By the way - anyone on this website had a reply from the CDC? I have written and have heard nothing.

Dear Sarah,

I never wrote to the CDC however I did get a response. 8) :D

Sabrina wrote:Here is the response I received from the CDC as promised.

“Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Atlanta GA 33033

Dear Ms. ///////

Your e-mail to the National Institutes of Health regarding the condition some refer to as ‘Morgellons’ was referred to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for appropriate response. I am sorry to learn of you and your child’s difficulties. Please excuse the delay of this response.

CDC shares your concerns because affected persons are clearly suffering. However, CDC scientists currently have insufficient information to determine whether persons who identify themselves as having Morgellons have a single cause for their symptoms or what the risk factor(s) or possible control measures are for their condition.

Given the current limited knowledge of the condition, CDC is forming a multi-specialty internal working group, consisting of medical experts in environmental health, chronic diseases, infectious diseases, and mental health, to first define this condition. The working group will review available data to help us understand this pattern of illness or syndrome. Our aim is to gather information on people reporting this condition to see if they share common traits, experiences, or anything that might have put them at risk for these symptoms. At this time, the methods for information gathering are still being defined including methods for collection of any samples. We hope to learn enough about the condition so we can offer useful advice for control or treatment, something that is not possible now because too little is known. The chair of this working group will report to CDC’s Office of the Chief Science Officer.

Since CDC has no clinical center or hospital to evaluate or treat patients, we urge persons who believe they are suffering from this condition to or who have distressing symptoms to seek evaluation and medical care from their local healthcare providers. Health care providers can send inquiries to [email protected].

Thank you again for your inquiry. I hope this information is helpful.

Julie Louise Gerberding, M.D., M.P.H.

Dear Nettimo,

Yes, these are my symptoms too. I hate those hair like ones and they can be very long.

It is just as Tamtam has said, the “hair” becomes a pathway, I have seen this with my own two eyes. The “hair” has white/clear tiny fibers inside the shaft, I watched them exit before, very freaky but true! :shock: Had I not seen this, I would have never have known.

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Postby tamtam » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:13 am

Important links as earlier posted:

"The diagnosis of these rare infections is based largely on detection of characteristic structures observed on histopathologic examination of tissue"

Copy link by Mr. Barz:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1081399

Response J. Gerberding (CDC Atlanta) to Mrs. Sabrina,
Excerpt letter:

"The (CDC) working group will review......available data...... to help us understand this pattern of illness or syndrome"
Excerpt link London:


"Various dermatoses are clearly associated with either superficial or systemic infection by many Gram-negative organisms, most notably Pseudomonas aeruginosa (....)

However, it is unreasonable to compare mechanisms of cutaneous disease from colonising Gram-negative bacteria to those due to cyanobacteria .....solely...... on the basis that both organisms contain LPS"
"In our opinion, the sole natural exposure route that might explain aquatic cyanobacterial LPS-related illness is via inhalation of aerosolised cells or fragments"

"protein allergens in some cyanobacteria may provoke symptoms"

New Scientist Breaking News - Dietary neurotoxin linked to Alzheimer's
Neurotoxins from blue-green algae present in certain foods or water can accumulate in proteins and might cause brain diseases like Alzheimer’s after many ...
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6229 - 42k - Cached - Similar pages

"Its about CBL (Cyano Bacterial Like micro organisms) that gather in a biofilm.
This biofilm represents a lysate that will recombine. Because of its quorum sensing property, more organisms may tune into one and the same multi cellular process"

"A number of mysterious and uncomfortable diseases, in which microbes were never convincingly implicated in the past, are now attributed to bacteria growing as a biofilm"


Important note for the histopathologist in relation to infection with a novel CBL:

"The globose budding cells of L. loboi may resemble the “mariners wheel” form of Paracoccidioides brasiliensis in tissue; however, the consistent diameter and chain-like arrangement of the yeast cells of L. loboi distinguish it from P. brasiliensis. L. loboi is usually intracellular, although extracellular forms may be seen"
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Postby tamtam » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:22 am

Interesting photo/ reference page:

http://www.micrographia.com/specbiol/al ... la0100.htm
http://www.micrographia.com/specbiol/ba ... ct0200.htm

and a rare mentioning of the genesis of a parasitic filament;
compare: nuclear transfer

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Postby London » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:27 am

Spirogyra eh? I thought that was a name of a jazz band TamTam... :)


Study Of Tiny Worms On Micro-Sized Chips Sheds Light On How Memories Are Formed In The Brain

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 231914.htm


Engineers Create Gecko-inspired, High-friction Micro-fibers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 121445.htm

Nadas, wow, I just came back online and read your man and computers post,,,,what do you think? Robots....you wanna know what I think? I think these lil fibers are neurolnetworks.....

Hey Nadas, what did you think of that anonymous poster about 5 days ago talking about jet fuels and how he infected himself, etc.,? You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe him.

TamTam, look here, you say aerosols....Researchers prepare to get a fix on microbes that trap carbon from air

By Nancy Garcia

The sky isn't exactly falling, but burning fossil fuel certainly has pumped enough greenhouse gases into the air to auger changes in global climate if concentrations climb higher.

For that reason, DOE is funding a suite of programs at the national laboratories, including one led from Sandia, that include an examination of the ways microbes remove carbon from the atmosphere. The Genomes-to-Life projects, announced recently (see July 26 Lab News), include this $1.1 million, three-year effort to gain a better fundamental understanding that can improve predictions of climate change.

Computations will be a key component of the effort, says principal investigator Grant

Heffelfinger (1802), involving both computer modeling and analysis of experimental data.

The winning proposal examines the role of so-called "molecular machines" that remove carbon from the atmosphere over oceans. The carbon-fixing systems are found in marine cyanobacteria, a type of blue-green algae particularly common among plankton floating on the surface of nutrient-poor regions of the ocean, such as the Sargasso Sea or equatorial areas.

"It's one of the most abundant organisms on the planet," says Tony Martino (8130), who is principal investigator on the project along with Brian Palenik, a professor at the University of California, San Diego who is affiliated with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Evolving some 4 billion years ago, this simple unicellular creature launched our oxygen atmosphere by being the first living thing to pull carbon from the air. With photosynthesis, it uses the energy of sunlight to build atmospheric carbon into sugar molecules, releasing oxygen (from atmospheric CO2) in the process.

Plankton and photosynthesis

In the ocean, cyanobacteria account for nearly half of the photosynthesis carried out by plankton. Since oceans are where 40 percent of photosynthesis occurs worldwide, Tony said, this lowly bacteria is "a major player in global climate change."

Unlike plants that carry out photosynthesis in chloroplasts (rodlike units whose sunlight-capturing pigment confers color to leaves in spring and summer), the bacteria contain simple protein shells full of enzyme. The enzymes in these

"carboxysome" structures catalyze chemical reactions in which carbon atoms are joined into loops or chains of sugars or starches.

Although carboxysomes were first identified in the 1970s, much remains unclear about them -- whether they house more than one enzyme, how they take in carbon, and when a particular synthetic approach is favored (since the known enzyme has dual activity).

"These organisms are not well understood at all," says Todd Lane (8130), a microbial expert on this and related projects. "To improve computer models of the global carbon cycle, we need to understand the biology of these organisms in the marine environment."

Previous models assumed there was a purely chemical process involved in the carbon cycle. But plankton that are energized by sunlight form a "biological pump" by "fixing" carbon from air into cell structures and then sinking to the ocean bottom upon death. Besides cyanobacteria, that process also occurs in marine diatoms. Slightly more complex than bacteria, these single-cell organisms have a lacey armature that makes them heavy enough upon death to very reliably sink to form an ocean-floor sediment. (Such sediments are where fossil fuels have been generated over eons from decayed organic matter.)

http://www.sandia.gov/LabNews/LN11-29-0 ... ories.html
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Postby tamtam » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:52 am

This is a fine index of protein(s)
extra attention for lens like protein/ cyanobacterium via google


Research connection: amyloidosis/ microcystis/ cyanobacterium
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