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Postby Cilla » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:53 pm

Hi Doc,

Sorry for being so sensitive, but (maybe for the first time in my life) I am genuinely trying to help people, for nothing in return, and I do feel hurt when they are a bit rude to me.

I thought that I might have mixed you up with Accudoc, so thank you for clearing that up.

I do think that your credentials matter, and I do believe that you have cured yourself, (at least to the level of functioning normally), which is wonderful.

London is not well, and is coping with great courage, although she should not say derogatory things about organisations or people.

I think it might be this illness, (at times), that can make people momentarily believe quite paranoid things about others. Fortunately, this would not seem a permanent effect, and, while I do feel sorry for them, I do not believe it is insurmountable, and I think that they could obtain some of the advised treatment and calm down (a lot).

However, I am not minimising the horror, and I believe that they do momentarily believe these things, so it is a shame, really.

I think it might have been you who said that a lot of the ranting is because of the temporary or momentary episodes of neuropathy that this illness can cause. Unfortunately, if people do not get a grip on this, they run a very real risk of being diagnosed as mentally ill if they let rip in a doctor's surgery.

While, of course, you would never diagnose or prescribe on line, I do not see why you could not set out the regimen of drugs, including doses, (that you took), that a person can then take to their doctor. You are not advising that they definitely take these, you are merely outlining a possible regimen, which they must ask a doctor to consider prescribing.

You could send me a pm of what you took, precisely, and I could in turn confidentially pass this on (only verbally, to a registered medical practitioner) for consideration.

You seem to have a very good grasp of the possible neurological effects, and it would be interesting to learn more of your theories in greater detail.

People on this site owe you, and Tam tam, a tremendous debt of gratitude.

Randy has also been very helpful in disclosing the regimen of medication that she had prescribed for her, and, if she was instrumental in bringing the expertise of Dr Schwartz into all of this, she is, as I have said, a heroine for doing so. Charity covers a multitude of sins!
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Postby canalon » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:40 pm

In defense of the unnamed Mod:
I can take humor, but I refuse the use of humor as a weapon and when it is going to start a flame between posters. And I try to keep unrelated posts to the minimum when the thread is already so big that is, for all intent, almost impossible to navigate.
As for credentials, I maintain that no title can really be trusted on internet where I could easily claim to be a PhD as well as a leader of a terrorist group. The important on our forum is what you post, and if in contrast to other posters Doc44 seems serious and knowledgeable, that do not prove anything.

And I recall to everybody that all clinical advice on the net sould be checked with a health professional before complying.
And I should say that the use of antibiotics without clear bacterial role is at best useless, and may damage your health as well as tour ability to use anttibiotics in the future by selecting resistant bacteria. So beware of some advice published here!
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:27 am

Cilla or Randy,

Would you know of any doctors or scientists that look at "live blood" and what would their credentials be.

I do so think that looking at blood as a live entity rather than as dead, once leaves body.

Before any spinning or adding of anything, there are certain things in the blood.

Somatids which evidently cannot be eliminated.

Any of you biology experts know of this? or believe it?


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Postby RANDY » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:52 am

I bet on the list of scientist docs that I left for those to contact..I contacted all in Virginia yesterday..you could find someone. They have their credentials listed.

I also found this and contacted them and got this repsonse. I have all the attachments they speak of and if you also want to contact them, let me know and I will send them to you.

Also I sent this to Wymore to see if he wants to talk to them. It is where we may have to go in the long run to get a cure for this, I believe.


Dear Ms. Yaskal,

I am one of the transplant coordinators at Northwestern. We do indeed
treat specific autoimmune diseases that have been refractory to
conventional therapy and pose threat to organ function.

I am attaching generic information on stem cell here at Northwestern. We would be able to see you have you see a dermatologist in conjunction with Dr. Oyama.

Please read the attached "intro" letter and submit the requested records, information about your disease course, treatments and response.

Thank you,

Kimberly Yaung
Clinical Nurse Study Coordinator
Northwestern University
Chicago, Illinois 60611
312.503.1435

This is my letter to them:
From: "Randy Yaskal" <cisfl2004@netzero.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:29:41 pm +0000
Subject: NCT00278642, DIAD Derm.Auto2001: - Hematopoietic Stem Cell
Support in Patients With
Autoimmune Bullous Skin Disorders

Doctors:

I have an unknown skin disorder that may fall under research for this study.

I believe it is stem cell related. People have this and have had chemo, radiation and interferon and HIV treatments ( for other ailments, not this) and it has not killed this.

This is a foundation that has some good pictures of what I have:
http://morgellons.org I call it Fiber Disease.(The new plague of 2006)

This is the CNN show they did on us. CNN LINK on our disease.(Syndrome)

http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=morgellons

I am willing to do anything to find out what this is and why the pigment is missing after a lesions heals after 6 months. Why I have fibers that
cause non-healing skin lesions that will not close up and keep opening and oozing. This is very bizarre.

I have ALL my medical records. I have COBRA , BC/BS. No one knows what is wrong with me. I do not drink, do drugs, smoke or eat a lot of meat
products I am mentally healthy and can pass any mental evaluation.

I can fly to meet with you from Virginia, where I reside, (near UVA.)

Let me know if you or anyone you know is interested in studying this.

Randy Wymore from Oklahoma State University is doing research but he is using his own money and the work is very slow and he has not gotten an
NIH grant thus far.

Thank you,

Randy Beth-Eve Yaskal
434-974-7128
cisfl2004@netzero.com
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:20 am

Randy,

Thank for info. I am a bit hesitant of contacting Univeristy of Michigan, since they at the infectious disease center labeled me DOP, but, who knows, maybe it has changed. Maybe sometimes the right hand does not know what the left is doing and vis a vis.

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Postby London » Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:19 am

To Doc 44,

Man, refresh my memory, but did I say you were the Mushroom man?

Did I even imply that? Hmmm....don't think I did. What made you even

think that? Certainly not any feelings of guilt or feelings like you were

busted or anything, huh?

Well, I will go ahead and apologize for huring your feelings right now.

I'm sorry Doc 44 if I implied you. I hope you will forgive?
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Now, here's what else I'm dealing with......

Somedays are better than others......but all it will take is one more scare

tactic done towards me......just one....and that will be it.

Not that anyone cares......but I had wires cut in three autos that I own

and all 3 were supposedly damaged by squirrels.....yeah right....funny,

no-one else that lives by me had their car wires destroyed by squirrels...

To make a long story short, one of the autos got it twice ! ouch....but

here's the really sad part........I got that call, that dreaded call from my mechanic today........

........................the damage done to this third car wil cost me only

$ 3,553.00 to be fixed........Now, how does this relate to Morgellons Disease????????? I think my wires were cut by someone not

liking me for what I know......Yes, I said that, and if it happens again, that

will be all it takes......I'm not going to live in this frightened little world they tried to create for me......Screw that.......

I will bring them down when they bring me down or EVEN ATTEMPT TO BRING ME DOWN......just one more time is all that it will take.....
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Has anyone heard from JJill?
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Postby London » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:58 am

Okay, I'm sitting here listening to Cliff and the gang on the Jeff Rense show.......

chas just praised Senator Feinstein.....whoopi.....you people should do your darn homework on her too.......origionally, the stuff I pulled up on her was positive to my ears....for i love liberals, but pleeze......

she supported this big forest project (there we go, just like I told you all this will boil down to.......to save the trees and rainforest) but she's got some deals in her wheels with some science organizations as well......

Is that all good? Hell no; at least it's not in my OPINION but what do I know- besides what this illness really is.....

Regardles, I would do some checking on her before I go touting she is in our favor.........
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Postby London » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:19 am

oh, thanks Cilla, for some reason before I ever wrote earlier, I did not see your post , nor skytrolls on this page....strange. Anyway, I just saw it and wanted to say thanks for speaking on my behalf; you do speak elegantly and keep me grounded as well :)
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:21 am

London,

Descriptions of photos were excellent. Pat did wonderful job. Cliff also.

Hey, hang in there and remember we are in this together for the long haul, Supersleuth.


Tam Tam,

Do you think this construct has any artificial intelligence to it?

Hey, I found white flies here and examined one under microscope, it had antenna with black circles
at certain intervals same distance apart and black specks were present inside the body of this insect.

Did not look like the normal white fly with the short antennas. These fly straight at me, off grasses, or yards. They seem to like damp shaded areas.

Also, on the wing was a spot similar to the ones you talked of on the lepidoptera wing. Could this be a form of higher intelligence, or artificial intelligence, say sensors on wings, signals on antennas? And the the black spots the seeds for unfolding the fibers. Say, a form of fiber intelligence? Say, from a flagella? or from artificial fibrin? I know the Royal Society of England Press has published some interesting studies on muscle fibrils and how they move. Also, a synthetic flagellated bacteria was created in Japan, sorta like a robotical e-coli.

Just wondering if you suspect other types of intelligence used.

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Postby London » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:01 am

Hi Skytroll,

Long time/ no talk, I hope you're still feeling okay. Yes, very interesting what you pulled up on the Royal Society ......um hummmm>

guilty in my book anyday.....but damn that was interesting...Now here is an answer for you re: the insect wings.....They have what looks to be like eyes on their wings......it's a natural defense mechanism for

for predators......Did not know if Tam Tam would get that right or not, you see, I asked him that a long time ago, but he just ignored.......and You know, come to think of it too Sky, he did get his geography a lil off.....

Remeber when he said that Y(I can't even remember the name) but said it was less than a mile away from Lackland Texas? hehehe well, it was a lil more than a mile.....for it was in the Netherlands.......

Sorry Tam, but you knew damn good and well that was a farce....dunno if you had been smoking wacky weed that night when you wrote that, but you were waaaayyyyy off there.....but no hard feelings, we all still love you.....

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Postby London » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:28 am

AND Sky,

This is something i heard as well on the flagellum:

presents the bacterial flagellum as the premier example of a biological system that, because he judges it to be both complex and specified, must have been actualized by the form-conferring action of an unembodied intelligent agent. However, a critical examination of Dembski’s case reveals that, 1) it is built on unorthodox and inconsistently applied definitions of both “complex” and “specified,” 2) it employs a concept of the flagellum’s assembly that is radically out of touch with contemporary genetics and cell biology, and 3) it fails to demonstrate that the flagellum is either “complex” or “specified” in the manner required to make his case. If the case for Intelligent Design is dependent on the bacterial flagellum, then ID is a failure.
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Dunno, if that helps or hinders....
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Postby Sabrina » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:21 am

The media coverage has been wonderful, for the most part, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why not one reporter so far has not filmed the fibers emerging directly from the skin??? If I was a reporter that would be my first request to my interviewee!


Somebody in the UK has been reading my mind! 8)

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