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Postby FiberSymptoms » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:48 pm

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Postby London » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:03 pm

Randy, No, no hard feelings. Yet I still do not see what is paranoid. I truly do not. Anyway, what do you mean by you saying my double posting? I'm trying to learn here...do you mean like right up above where I did the two post in a row, trying to reach you...? I will gladly combine those if that is what you meant. I was not online when you wrote your post to me about Ginger..so I was not ignoring you.

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and this is to whomever said in that long post above:

No one will care about your health as much as you - they will just watch you disintegrate in public - googling yourself to death

Well, I say they can watch me google them to death too b/c that is just what I'm doing. They know it/ you know it.

but I will admit; you are right. I do need to look into my health a little bit more....but since they deemed us DOP, I thought, hey, someone might as well live up to it. And I don't give a flying rats behind what the hell it makes me look like....do you actually think I'm going to sit next to them
at the next biotech co or science co next dinner party???
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Postby London » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:13 pm

oh, I just re read your post; I do believe I know who you are.....nice to meet you...you are just about exactly the way I imagined you to be...

[Moderation note: I do not completely delete this post but I cut most of it, just to tell that this was exactly the kind of thing that do not have its place on this forum. Personnal fights and wars are not to be fought on this board - Canalon :evil:]
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Postby Barz » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:40 pm

Here we go again :shock: .
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Postby canalon » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:29 pm

Barz wrote:Here we go again :shock: .


Yep so I have to put my head out and say a few words:
- Limit your posts to relevant information. AND TELL WHY YOU THINK IT IS RELEVANT! I am tired of long copy of websites vaguely related to a biological field. Rather post a link and a title than a full article.

-When you are saying something prove it, or at the very least do tell why you think that what you are telling is not just random techno babble. You say there is a quorum sensing link, you tell us Why. You say there is a link with any weird (myco)bacteria, tell us what makes you think that.

Mods will enforce the rules by deleting posts, warning AND banning users.

And I hope you will all behave yourself before we feel that the whole thread need to be locked and or deleted.
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Postby RANDY » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:32 pm

London:

I ask you to do me one huge favor. Ok?

Go back to page one of this thread.

Cut and paste all of your threads and then place them in a binder and then take the time to read them all back to yourself.

You will see what we are all talking about honey.

Highlight every time you have known what it is and highlight every time you have accused someone of something, include the government in this number.

I do believe this would be a good way to understand what we are all seeing.

Also let me know how long it takes for you to do this..cut and paste and how long it takes you to read all your posts plus all the articles in your posts.

Then you can see from our point of view what we are seeing.

Okkedoke....I am only trying to help here. Honest I am.

You need a mirror to see yourself as we are seeing you and as others will see you when they join or look at this forum.

YOu have some good ideas but like the boy who cired wolf..no one is listening anymore and that is a shame because you just may hit onto something one day and no one will be paying attention.

Do you understand how I am trying to help you here?

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Postby Cilla » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:59 pm

Hi Southcity,

First of all, I would like to say that I am still thinking about you and your girlfriend, and the terrible tragedy that you both suffered when you lost your precious little baby.

I have been thinking too about whether this terrible disease could have caused this. If so, I hope that anyone who did knowingly cause or allow this unacceptable situation to continue is brought to justice, because that really would be unforgivable. If this is true, and the people who may be involved in this know full well that it could have led to such a tragedy, then I believe that God will intervene.

As far as attaining legal justice in respect of this apparently new disease process goes, you could only make advances if you applied legal reasoning, which is a very different way of thinking than that employed generally in everyday life, and is also quite different (in some important respects) from employing reasoning of a predominantly ethical nature.

It is very dangerous to confuse law and ethics, as they are not the same, although certain legal and ethical principles will of course merge at times.

Many legal discussions can sometimes become heated academic exchanges concerned really with what the law should state, rather than what it actually does state. That is wrong, because any hope of legal action must be based on what the law, in the particular jurisdiction in question, actually states. If applicable legislation can be invoked to substantiate the argument this is generally a much stronger base than utilising any relevant common law, although much depends on the seniority of the court where the decision was made.

In addition to all of that, the focus for seeking evidence has to be quite specific, and really quite narrow.

Therefore, if a citizen of the European Union (EU) is informed that there purportedly exists a letter from the ECDC, apparently confirming to the submitter of a report (or other communication), that certain research can pose a risk to human health, some legal rights begin to flow.

If the same EU citizen is dealt with inappropriately, e.g. by improper use of, or by misapplication of the mental health legislation, more legal rights flow, and potentially strengthen those mentioned supra.

However, it would probably be the case that such rights could only come into being if such a person (or, preferably their lawyer), wrote to the ECDC, demanding that the existence of both the original report, and the answering letter from the ECDC, be confirmed or denied. The lawyer would know how to word everything properly, e.g. including such legal phrases as 'without prejudice... etc.' This sort of attention to detail can make a big difference in any subsequent legal action that may arise, and any matters involving possible deadlines should be considered under specialist advisement.

Actual copies of the documentation could be asked for, but success in obtaining this could well depend on the lawyer being granted the appropriate court order.

As I have indicated before, it would really only be someone with the required 'legal interest' who would have the right to request information such as this, or to be acceded to in their demand to be told the source code for the putatively cloned culture.

In the case of the EU citizen outlined supra, there would be a legal right to request the information if they are apparently infected with a novel clinical condition for which they are not receiving adequate diagnosis and treatment, and (particularly) if they can demonstrate that they have been alarmed by any substantial threats involving invoking the mental health legislation should they persist in seeking such treatment. Any use of this legislation to forestall the patient's rights in being referred to a specialist is, in some circumstances, highly actionable.

The army of lawyers concerned with the mental health legislation is huge. If a person's rights under the European Convention of Human Rights are also contravened, the legal rights become stronger still.
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Postby London » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:37 pm

get this thru your head; you will only exacerbate the situation Randy.

What, so you all are freaking out b/c the lil secret was busted....and that big of a stink all about TAM Tam???? Hmmm ....was'nt it you my friend that started the screaming over and over of how big of NIMRODS we were to believe him??? HUH????

So, tell me what is the problem now? I honestly do not get it......and alll those hours and papers that just seem to piss you off until no end is insight....

Well, I will do you all a favor.....I will sum it up for you nicely......

READ MY LIPS:

SIMPLICITY; OUR DISEASE IS A MITOCHONDRIAL ONE.

THEY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS BECAUSE OF SIMPLY STATING GENETIC /HEREDITARY MAKE UP.....

BUT ONE CAN ALSO ACQUIRE THIS MITOCHONDRIAL PROBLEMS THAT RANGE ANYWHERE FROM ALZHEIMERS TO HIV.....FROM THE DESIGNER BACTERIA THAT THEY PUT INTO THE INSECT.

THE END. NOW COMEON BACK WITH SOME MORE SLAMMING AND i START NAMING NAMES.
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Postby RANDY » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:46 pm

London,

I am not typing or talking to you again until you get back to normal.

You have no idea what this is. No one does. That is reality.

You are living in your mind.

Prove it. Prove it. Call the CDC, Wymore anyone at all and prove it.

Then come back to the site with a full report on how they believed you.

Until then..I have nothing to say to you.

When people go into manic mode when they are bi-polar they think they can conquer the world and have grandious visions, ideas and a false sense of reality... you are there now.

I have nothing to say to you. You have cried wolf for the last time in my book. Youa re unstable and a threat to us being believed and taken seriously.

Perhaps you are who you say we are..the queen of dis-information. I hope not. (That was done to see how you make others feel when you falsely accuse.)

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Postby London » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:50 pm

AND I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS..i WAS CERTAINLY NOT MEANING TO BE rude when i spoke of Ms. Savely knowing what this is...

I said that because of the paper she has written on the 26th of June, 2006.
That is the only reason I said that and...I do admit and apologize, that is does sound rude and to that I'm very sorry and I will go fix that post.

I was actually also being nicfe by not posting the name of her paper!
My bad.....but you know what? you get put like you're on deaths row from an insect with a desighner bacteria cloned in and well, every now in then it starts to eat at you....
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Postby London » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:57 pm

You got it! I highly doubt it will be on here but it will be done...just for you ""Randy!

don't worry; you will not miss it; for I will send you and the rest of em a hyperlink....later.....

HEY Randy, at least i have an excuse for mine; what's yours???
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enzyme into lysosomal, peroxysomal or mitochondrial enzyme deficiency (see lysosomal disease, peroxisomal disorder and mitochondrial diseases.

Another type of classification is based on the topographical pattern of abnormal myelin distribution.

The destruction of myelin is due to deficient catabolism of portions of the complex proteins in the myelin sheaths, resulting in accumulation of different catabolites in the various diseases of this group. The clinical picture is one of progressive weakness, long tract signs and visual and auditory deficits progressing to frank dementia, spasticity, and unresponsiveness. In most patients the disease is evident early in the first decade. The common leukodystrophies (metachromatic leukodystrophy, Krabbes leukodystrophy and Canavans disease) are transmitted by an autosomal recessive pattern of inheritance. Adrenal leukodystrophy in the classic form and Pelizaeus Merzbacher disease, found only in boys, are inherited as sex-linked recessive disorders.

The MR picture is that of progressive white matter lesions eventually resulting in diffuse cerebral atrophy. Although the disease pattern on MRI is similar for all of the leukodystrophies in the later stages, there are some distinguishing features early in the disease course (see Cockaynes syndrome, adrenoleukodystrophy and Alexanders disease).
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Postby canalon » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:49 pm

London:

Provide proof or at least a logical thread of thought thak link mitochondrial disease and morgellons. With any other thing you 'll come up with in the future before I start making space in the database....
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