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Postby London » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:25 am

Morganella Morganii- I remember Mr. Kern saying it was not bad. Read here:

Pathophysiology: M morganii has been associated with urinary tract infe
tions, sepsis, pneumonia, wound infections, musculoskeletal infections, central nervous system infections, pericarditis, chorioamnionitis, endophthalmitis, empyema, and spontaneous bacterial peritonitis.

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Now what does this mean?

Occurrence of hemolytic activity in the skin secretion of the caecilian siphonops paulensis.

Schwartz EN, Schwartz CA, Sebben A.

Department of Physiological Sciences, Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Brasilia, Brasilia, DF, Brazil. efschwa@unb.br

The skin secretion of the caecilian Siphonops paulensis (SpSS) induces a time-and dose-dependent hemolytic response on red blood cells (RBC). When RBC from various animals species were subjected to the action of SpSS, a range of sensitivities was evident, sheep erythrocytes being the most susceptible, human, mouse and rabbit having moderate susceptibility, cow, snake and toad erythrocytes being more resistant, while S. paulensis RBC were entirely resistant. The hemolytic activity of SpSS was inhibited at temperatures higher than 60 degrees C. Both trypsin- and chymotrypsin-treated SpSS were ineffective in inducing RBC lysis. The treatment of SpSS with sheep RBC ghosts reduced its activity. There is no phospholipase activity in the SpSS. Copyright 1998 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
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Postby canalon » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:56 am

London wrote:Morganella Morganii- I remember Mr. Kern saying it was not bad.


No, not really. It has been observed as an opportunistic pathogen, as many bacteria that can live and survive in our gut. But this far from being a threat to your health if your Immune system is OK.
In fact it seems that the biggest problem would be its food spoilage ability, because in the creates huge quantities of histamine that causes allergic reaction when the food is ingested. Since it is essentially found on fish, beware not to eat rotten fish...

London wrote:Now what does this mean?
Occurrence of hemolytic activity in the skin secretion of the caecilian siphonops paulensis.


That if I were you I would be careful not to touch this ugly snake like amphibian found in the forest of central america. Not likely to be found in your backyard though. A pic here

A question: what is the link with the morgellon disease and those snipets of info? :?
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Postby canalon » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:09 am

About skytroll's posts:

You should learn that gold is a non reactive metal easy to work. And then is widely used in biology to transfer DNA in cells (read about biololistic), and to mark targets in electron microscopy (who cannot always detect all biological structure, because they do not react with the electrons)

More on electronic microscopy, and atomic force microscopy: those techniques allow to "see" at the atomic level. So seeing nanotubes is not a feat... But colors in all cases are netirely artificaila and added after image treatment to show whatever the researcher wants to show (height above the plan, local electrical conductivity, and so on), So the blackness of carbon nanotubes is nothing more than a choice of the operator.

As an aside protons are particles at the atomic levels they do not have genetic material, and the nucleus they belong too is only semanticaly related to the nucleus of a cell. On the other hand introns are part of a gene (in cellular organisms at least), they do not have genetic material, since they are just part of the genetic material itself.

I definitely recommend you to take basic science courses, they are a very good antidotes to irrational fear of science. You know scentist are not bad people? Many do even have a real willingness to improve the world.
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Postby Skytroll » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:49 am

Canalon,

Isn't carbon black?

What I find are black ribbon like fibrils that unfold.

this is not organic, this what I am saying.

A crossover of organic/inorganic.

Isn't the periodic table measure elements by weight.

Do nanotubes have weight, and can they self-multiply if given the right conditions?

Can matter bio/chemicals be organized in such a manner as to form shapes and replicate?

If the weight of polymer or carbon equals that of proteins or is less, can it not move through proteins?

I am too old to go back to school, so am learning the best way I can.

I do know of the Helyxzion.

Genetics the next big thing along with the nano,
right?

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Postby Skytroll » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:52 am

Gold just might react to ion pathways and carbon nanorods, tubes etc?

To electrolytes in our blood, and the fibrin?

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Postby befour » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:52 am

Hi TamTam,

Thank you once again for your advice and valuable info on treatments for this awful disease.

Will Diflucan work as well as Itraconazole? I was finally able to get my GP to prescribe it for me, she gave me a 2 month supply (100 mg, once per day.)

I think she would have given me anything that I asked for on this visit, because she could tell that I had been suffering so much with my ears. She was horrified when she saw how infected they were.......and told me that my right ear drum had ruptured!! She gave me a shot of Rocephrine, Azithromycin tablets, Prolex-D and the Diflucan. I was really a mess......I thought if I died, I would feel better!!

Anyway, that was on Tuesday and I am finally feeling much better, and I can hear out of one ear....WOW!

The appt. with the ID dr. was a total DISASTER. He said that he had never heard of Morgellons........but I knew he was lying because of some of the questions he asked me. For instance....He asked me how I cleaned my wig and how I disinfected it. He said that contamination of the wig could be a concern, and a source of re-infection. DUH......REALLY??? He looked at my shaved head, with all of the bumps and bulges, patches of dark course hair, places where no hair grows........and said NOTHING!! He told me that since I did not have an open lesion, he could not treat me.

I asked him to look at my ears because they had been hurting for several days and the right ear was even red and swollen on the outside. He looked at the right ear and said that "Yes" it was infected and had a lot of fluid in it. HE DID NOT EVEN LOOK IN THE OTHER EAR........AND......HE DID NOT GIVE ME ANY ANTIBIOTICS OR DROPS TO PUT IN THE EAR!!!

I normally would have not left his office until I got the proper medication, but all I wanted to do was run out of his office before my head exploded!!!! What a creep!!

When I told my Dr. about my visit with the "specialist", she was shocked and embarrased by his behavior.....and apolgized for referring me to him. But she had no way of knowing.....that he would be an idiot!!

Thank you for your suggestions in treating my ears, it did help to relieve the pain!

After I finish this coarse of ABX, my dr. gave me another prescription for Bactrim, to take twice daily (800/160 tabs) for 2 months. Is this OK to take along with the Diflucan?

Thank you again for all of the help that you have given to US!

Best regards,

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Postby London » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:51 am

Patrick,

Is there a certain reason you are signaling myself and Skytroll out?

I’m curious why you have not asked TamTam that.

But, since you are the moderator, I will oblige. You asked why I think some of my snippets relates to Morgellons Disease. I’m sure you recall the 300 year-old history of Morgellons disease. How the photos show the strange shapes coming out of the pores on the back of these individuals, right?

Well, my last post above was on Morganella Morgannii. I chose this b/c first of all, the name is just too
Peculiar to not think something is up as regards to it relating to Morgellons disease, but most importantly
Because of the pore formation. See Below:

Pore formation in the artificial membranes by the secreted hemolysins of Proteus Vulgaris and Morgana Morgannii


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract

Also Patrick, that second article of mine at the top was not about the snake that I had in question, but of the hemolytic activity. For you see, I think as I have said before, our disease will relate to both Staph. and Strep infections. I.E., have you heard of this-....Synergistic hemolytic activity of Staphylococcus?

And I know that a couple of months before I got really ill, my pores enlarged. And, a lot of us who are
Ill with Morgellons disease have strange things that come out of our PORES.

http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articleren ... tid=174736

PS: and, my immune system is not okay! Nor is anyone elses that has
this disease.
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Postby London » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:23 am

okay, I have said since June the 3rd that I knew what our illness was or what is was going to be blamed on. As I was researching some of my previous studies last night, I came across an article that was co-written by Ms. Ginger Savely where they had researched this same thing just last month. Does anyone know why we did not hear anything of this? I'm very curious...it's good in a way that it confirms what I have held in suspect but bad in the way of I do not want to have this.

Sorry if that sentence did not make sense. I went to the MRF website and did not see a thing. also this paper I refer to was in addition, written by Mr. Stricker as well. There was no abstract available.

thanks-

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Postby hartuk » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:39 pm

Hi Befour,

I know you addressed your note to TT and I am not he, but I have taken both Itraconazole and Diflucanazole.
Itraconazole works much more effectively.

Do not take anti-biotics with Diflucan or Itraconazole ever.

For your ear infection you can use a dilution of Hydrogen Peroxide.
Arrow may well be able to give you further info on this or search online...
peroxide and ear infections.

I had an ear infection earlier this year which responded to Peroxide after a very heated debate with my dogmatic GP.
The junk from my ear was a pale green/blue...(I Know...)
Some Doctors may prescribe a product with a cortico-steroid for your ears. Do not use this.
It will only damage (however slightly) your already pressured immune system.
My scalp is also a mess, I can see a tangle of what appears to be hair worm under the suface and I exfoliate daily, but progress is slow.
Currently I am using DMSO and Chloroxylenol(from an over the counter product) and Diamataceous Earth which I use as a scrub....
Now though, I am convinced that only surgical intervention will remove this Junk after reading more about Protothecosis.
OK the meds may well kill this algae, but what is left in my body seems to be composed of Cellulose.... and we don't deal with cellulose at all....

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/4/1495

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pd ... 05.10124.x

Images :

http://jcm.asm.org/content/vol43/issue4 ... 50002.jpeg

Immune suppression caused by Prototheca :

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract

Petroleum-degrading achlorophyllous alga Prototheca zopfii :

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v2 ... 423a0.html

and on and on

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Postby London » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:27 pm

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Postby canalon » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:03 pm

London,

About Morganella morganii: It got its name because of the first biologist to study it: J de R Morgan, it was named Proteus morganii until 1978, when it was reassigne to its own genus, and since it was the only species in it, well, they derived the genus from the species name. No link with the morgellon disease.
As for the pore forming during hemolysis, this is a very common feature referring to the digging of holes (pores) into red blood cells (erythrocytes) by the bacteria in order to release the iron sequestrated in the hemoglobin into the environment. Nothing to do with any of your skin problems. Except if you are very tiny, with a reddish complexion and live inside somebody's blood.

As for Tamtam, he is risking to be banned if he goes on prescribing treatments on this board. Unless, and here I challenge him, he can bring any proof that could make logical sense of all the BS he is giving on this board. I am not expected a scientific paper, but anything that look like facts, hypothesis and explanation. Not just a meaningless of words picked up in scientific paper without the least understanding of them.
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Postby befour » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:49 pm

Dear Hartuk,

Thank you for your concern and suggestions.

My ear problems have been going on for over a month now and had gotten to be a rather serious condition, which was the reason for the ABX injection and oral antibiotics. I am SO much better today, and I feel that I may live!!

I had tried the peroxide in my ears, both diluted and straight out of the bottle, several times...but it did not help. I had also been using the mint oil/terramycin mixture that TamTam recommends. It helped to ease the pain but didn't clear up the infection. Normally it would have worked, because I have been using it for about 6 months now, on a regular basis.

What I have been getting out of both ears are white worm looking things....some are quite large, about 1/4 inch long. Even as I am typing this, it is hard for me to believe this is really happening to me.....even after 5 years!! But there is always something new waiting for us to overcome. I pray that God will continue to give us the strength to keep on fighting this disease.....until there is a cure!!

Thanks Hartuk!!


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