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Postby carriescamp » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:13 pm

WHERE IS CLIFF AND SCHWARTZ AND THE SHEEP LIVER FLUKE???

YES THIS IS OUR DISEASE...THE SHEEP LIVER FLUKE...WHERE ARE THESE GUYS?

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Postby London » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:18 pm

Skytroll


I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT. MAYBE YOU NEED TO STAY FOCUSED. NONE OF MY THINGS CONNECTED??

HOW BOUT:

DAPHNEA = CHECK

C ELELGANS'=CHECK

PHI X= CHECK

BACTERIOPHAGES=CHECK ( NOW, GRANTED THIS WAS OUT THERE YOU ARE THINKING BUT NO ONE EVER BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE I DID.

AND.....Subject ALKALI METAL COMPOUNDS;CARBONACEOUS MATERIALS;CHALCOGENIDES;COAL;ENERGY SOURCES;FOSSIL FUELS;FUELS;HYDROGEN COMPOUNDS;HYDROXIDES;INORGANIC ACIDS;MINERALS;OXIDES;OXYGEN COMPOUNDS;PETROLEUM PRODUCTS;PROCESSING;REACTOR MATERIALS;SODIUM COMPOUNDS;SULFUR COMPOUNDS;SULFUR


Let’s see, I do believe that I said the computer industry would be involved= another check

Connunications industry involved= another check

I even said Gene Fusion on page 14 of this forum-imagine that>go check it, it’s still there.

I know I was the first on this site to post about Recombinant DNA, and

According to if your man Tamtam is correct than I also put out this: chytryiomycosis-

Which is the frog disease/ which he confirmed to us a day or two later.

I just do not get how you can truly say that this does not connect

Your belief in Tam says it does? And who are you to say that I'm knocking

Anything he has said. I have not said that at all.


And the last time TAmTam addressed you, you in turn told him you were

Staying out of it b/c you were leaving it up to the science guys and then he turned

Around and said that my guess of Histone H2A variants H2AX and H2AZ


Was correct (you can find this at bottom of page 40) . I believe he said London, I’m going to clone your nose for the next bio-reactor…or

Something to that effect. And certainly not to be rude or pompous in any way to you sky troll

But I do recall him saying more than once that London is prestigious .

I just can’t believe as much as you and I have researched you could say such a thing you said.

That’s sad Sky, real sad.

Now to quote yourself “Let’s all stop playing around and do keep focused.” and Sky

I think it’s time for you to get back on the trail instead of preaching to us to do so.

Now to cut to the chase, Skytroll, can you tell me why Bacteriophages

Encode Toxins and other virulence factors?

T. You,


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Postby London » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:54 pm

Now here is part of that cyano and bacillus article. Incase you missed it too:

of genetic engineering techniques n1 for production of proteins that are toxic to insects such as larvae of mosquitos and black flies. These swamp-dwelling pests are the source of numerous human health problems, including malaria. It is known that certain species of the naturally-occurring Bacillus genus of bacteria produce proteins ("endotoxins") that are toxic to these insects. Prior art methods of combatting the insects involved spreading or spraying crystalline spores of the insecticidal Bacillus proteins over swamps. The spores were environmentally unstable, however, and would often sink to the bottom of a swamp before being consumed, thus rendering this method prohibitively expensive. Hence the need for a lower-cost method of producing the insecticidal Bacillus proteins in high volume, with application in a more stable vehicle.
n1 Basic vocabulary and techniques for gene cloning and expression have been described in In re O'Farrell, 853 F.2d 894, 895-99, 7 U.S.P.Q.2D (BNA) 1673, 1674-77 (Fed. Cir. 1988), and are not repeated here.
[**3]
As described by appellants, the claimed subject matter meets this need by providing for the production of the insecticidal Bacillus proteins within host cyanobacteria. Although both cyanobacteria and bacteria are members of the procaryote n2 kingdom, the cyanobacteria (which in the past have been referred to as "blue-green algae") are unique among procaryotes in that the cyanobacteria are capable of oxygenic photosynthesis. The cyanobacteria grow on top of swamps where they are consumed by mosquitos and black flies.

http://w3.uchastings.edu/patent_01/Hand ... df#search=

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Postby carriescamp » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:33 am

If you want people to stay on track with Cliff and Schwartz...tell me what have they found? With out all the lingo. What is it? What is the name of the fluke they have found...please, why is this being held back? Are you telling me they know it's a fluke but don't know which one? Come on...what's going on here and why is this information being with held. This is no mysterious fluke disease...give me a break!
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Outside the box

Postby Maggie Mae » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:47 am

Hypothetically, of course, but why not??

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... sors+human
I think it kinda works like this....only being tested in humans
Hey, give us a disease then see if we can "see" it.
http://clu-in.org/download/studentpaper ... ensors.pdf
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bi ... ns&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... biosensors
So,
This is strictly hypothetical but ya know, I just got a feeling.
Mm
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Postby Skytroll » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:49 am

Maggie Mae,

That about right, I think, too.

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Postby Skytroll » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:50 am

Direct drug application to humans.

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Postby ukguy » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:04 am

Skytroll

Many thanks for the posts on Glasgow and Alzheimer's.
Both very interesting! The homeopathic route seems a
likely option for me but available on the NHS ? That's cool :)

Thank you.
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Postby givemeabreak » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:15 am

Linn wrote:hey everyone.
London. ukayguy, skytrol, barz, befour,Randy, fiberdisease, maggie, carrie,
and everyone who has this disease. (sorry if i forgot yur screenname)

Randy has a sincere web site just for us why dont you check it out?

VERY GOOD PHOTOS OF WHAT WE HAVE FROM SOMEONE WHO POSTED ON MY SITE.( HTTP://UNKNOWNSKINDISEASE.COM)

sincerely,
Lynne


Linn,
Is it Linn, or Lynne, or Lynn? Just wanted to make sure I'm typing it correctly.

There are a NUMBER of sites, authored by sufferers, with information about this disease.

http://www.morgellonsusa.com
http://www.dpref.com ****make sure and see the fiber video on here
http://skinlesionsandfibers.tripod.com/media.htm (all media links)
http://skinlesionsandfibers.tripod.com/links.htm (all reference links)

Symptom and Source database ****you should enter your data here
http://home.comcast.net/~usp-db/index.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~usp-db/DBform.htm

Organizations
http://www.morgellons.com
http://www.headlice.org/news/2004/pr071204.htm

Support forums:
http://lymebusters.proboards39.com
http://skindisease.proboards50.com

You already know about the others.

There are more links on the pages aforementioned pages (like EDRL) that you should also investigate.

Here is a petition to sign for more research

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/s ... sandfibers

I am sure I could come up with more, but that's what I have handy.
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Postby ukguy » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:34 am

To All...

We all have our opinions on C3's/TamTam's posts.
The information is not being presented in a manner we would like
it to be presented but we have to live with that.

Personally I've swayed this way and that with regards to the
information he has posted but that's natural. I'm trying to speak
with people in the UK about the video. I did ask C3 for a definitive
take on the body of his research findings and he didnt respond so
I'm going about it my own way and will report here when I have
enough information of interest.

I've said it before but alot of the information he has posted strikes
a chord with me. It certainly gives food for thought and avenues
to explore. By saying this I don't feel like I'm putting myself on
one side of the camp. People have enough to face without
further divisions being created.

If we treat this body of work as an avenue that is there to be explored
by anyone who wishes to explore it then we don't need two camps here!

Just my thoughts.

I am contacting people here in the UK and as I said I'll let you know when I have info worth posting.

Take care all and STICK TOGETHER!

Best regards
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These Flukes

Postby carriescamp » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:15 pm

Since I've been accused of basically being a trader...I'm posting this message on the two boards that I'm visiting right now...however this was written for the bio-board.

Why isn't anyone giving me their opinion about these fluke diseases? It appears to me that I'm being talked around...that's fine but I have some very valid information here that some of you don't seem to be interested in...especially if we all after the same answers...an end to this horrific disease! I posted a link to what I feel is very relevant to our fibers, hence, very relevant to our disease. Is there anything else out there about that? If there isn't a lot of knowledge on these fluke disease than speak up...knowledge is power. If you need to know how I feel regarding the relevance then closed mouth don't get fed...I just finished breakfast...I've got leftovers. We are not chasing a ghost invader as we know this monster is very real. If we sit around and wait for some one else to solve it for us then we are just as much to blame as our governments that have allowed them to happen for so long!

Like I said, I'd appreciate any and all comments on the link below...thanks again.
http://www.cvm.okstate.edu/~users/jcfox ... ecture.htm
Select Liver...then "Fasciola Hepatica" (Sheep Liver Fluke)...then click on the second "Sporocyct" listed.
Thanks again and I appreciate your time.
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Postby yyz » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:43 pm

Carrie,

I don't think you are wrong necessarily, but with so many different species of nematodes and trematodes, what you have may not be what someone else has. Different flukes have different vectors. I personally have removed what I believe to be flukes and cerceria from lesions. It was a long time ago and knowing what I know now, I would have saved them.

I think the fluke is a co-infection. While present in some, it may not be present in others. I do not think it is the underlying cause, but it is part of the complex for many. Have you tried biltricide? My opinion is that if it is only a fluke that is causing this, then all that should be needed is biltricide, ivermectin, etc. (scwhartz protocol). I havn't tried it yet. As of right now, I am rx free awaiting further testing next week.

The pathogen causing this disease is in the environment vectored by insects, pollution, cotton, who knows for sure. So even if you had all the drugs needed to rid your body of it, how long before you relapse? Lifelong suppressive therapy? That is the game they are playing isn't it?

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