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Postby London » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:30 pm

Okay, thanks John. So what is your take on it/ and Agent Green?
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This will be my last hyperkink today. It is a list of a lot of Pub Med articles on Nerve Agents:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... rnalSearch
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Postby John Kern » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:42 pm

London wrote:Okay, thanks John. So what is your take on it/ and Agent Green?


Fusarium has a lot of varaieties with varying degrees of specificity, so in theory it can be targeted to a particular plant. You'll note that previously the US Gov used harsh chemical herbicides to kill coca crops in Columbia, and this caused a lot of problems. I think they wanted to used Fusarium (in a particular variety named Agen Green, that specifically targets coca like plants) to minimize environmental impact. I think the project was cancelled for two reasons - firstly it proved more difficult than they though to target coca specifically, since fusarium does mutate fairly quickly (to include other plants). Secondly there was the legal aspect, where it could arguably be described as uing a biological agent on another country, and hence be biological warfare, technically violating internation treaties (even though it's a lot safer than chemical herbicides). It does infect humans, especially the immunocopromised, which probably infuenced the decision as well, to a lesser degree.

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Postby in_the_uk » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:01 pm

Hi John,

I don't know what the http://morgellonswatch.blogspot.com/200 ... where.html is up to but if it has absolutely nothing to do with you please accept my appologises for any connection that I have made between you and that site.

Best wishes,

gotta jet.

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Postby John Kern » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:17 pm

London wrote:Funny, If I take a cotton face-pad and drench it in Hydrogen Peroxide and then rub on my face, My eyes begin to burn severely and water too. This does not stop until I splash my face with water- rinsing the hydrogen off.

It also has a strange effect on my hands now. They begin to sting and turn white up to the knuckle area at the base of the fingers. This whiteness is uniform across the hand. is has never happened before when I would use hydrogen peroxide.
Have any of you experienced this as well?


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London, you should check the concentration of HP you are using. A 35% solution will cause the symptoms you are experiencing. The whitening is due to the formation of gas bubbles in the epidermal layer of the skin. You don't want to leave that on your skin for any length of time, as it can cause blisters and other damage. If it is a strong concentration, that's probably what is irritating the eyes. Be careful, it can cause corneal burns!

[edit] You really should not be using more than 3% on your skin for repeated use. Even then it can cause skin irritation.

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Postby John Kern » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:20 pm

I just posted the link - I think the guy is being rather sarcastic in some of his observations, which is not nice. But the fiber stuff is interesting - although obviously it does not explain everything.

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Postby London » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:26 pm

Thank You John, yet I'm still confused but I will work it out thru farther reading. Now john, please , you are smart- I can tell this. You surely do not believe everything the Gov't says do you?

They don't give a care that it is illegal! Do you know much about project sunshine? They do (the Am. Gov't) do fly-bys on poor South America and drop this wicked stuf on them. The people are so sick there.

We use the "War On Drugs" as a cover only so we can "Look like we are doing something legit like stoping out drugs.

I'm telling you now.......Marijuana has something to do with all of this....

Wait and see- I have no idea what that is but I just have a strong gut feeling about this, I have seen the photos of Jurvetson's friend, Ross Mayfield who owns a social text Company and that dabbles with the Gov't and the DOD a lot.> More specifically the photos show him getting his photo made with the Eustonion President while the other photos show his hotel room with these huge big bongs (paraphenalia for smoking pot) and his litle techie friends (University students perhaps?) all puffing on the bong.

There was this saying under the photos that basically said that the pot was not as bad for people as the Gov't makes us think it is.....

I can pull these photos for you if you'd like......
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And to all, I'm sorry, I lied. I have to post this hyperlink- it goes with something I posted on the other day.....PHOTONS. This is a short, very short animated film on how they work....it's all done via computers and the software....

http://www.shsu.edu/%7Echm_tgc/sounds/pee.mov
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Postby in_the_uk » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:34 pm

Hi John,

you seem to have a good manner and I like your scientific and critical approach. It is such a shame that you got tangled up with a link to a site that, for me, represnts every hurdle that anyone has to get over in order just to receive treatment. A right in the uk!

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Postby Linn » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:44 pm

Sorry about the confusion. The rest of my day is devoted to the leaflet. Lynne, did you manage to get anything together? If you did can you send it over. don't worry if you didn't the logistics are a bit difficult.

I am on page 6, finished, and am printing out 6plus more.
so you see I will be taking a looong time. I have some questions forSabrina, since those 6 pages are her.
will get bck to you.

Its ok if you want to go ahead without me, I need to
organiZe this in to catagories,and set up an access program.
But first I am going through this entire thread page by page with a highlighter and reading links.

Thanx again to people who answered my first question,
I wil let you know the next one.
I do not think its linked to lymes personaly,
but that's just MO.
Prob coincidence that so many also have it,
since I bet the reason is we are all out-doorsey
people who come in contact with ticks and such.
Hey thats a good question?

London, as you can see I am not resting :(
seems my body is tired but my brain will not shut off.
Maybe i should have a couple beers. :)

And BTW if the debilitating fatigue returns to me,
I can kiss my project goodby, cause I will be in bed for a while..
Regards to all,
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Postby John Kern » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:47 pm

By project sunshine, do you mean the secret nuclear fallout studies? - Or did you mean the Sunshine Project, the biotech watchdog?

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Postby Linn » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:47 pm

Hi John,

you seem to have a good manner and I like your scientific and critical approach. It is such a shame that you got tangled up with a link to a site that, for me, represnts every hurdle that anyone has to get over in order just to receive treatment. A right in the uk!

Helen

Isnt he!!
a very respectfull chap. :)
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Postby London » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:06 pm

John,

The watchdog-Project sunshine. Sorry, I posted that rply of mine before i knew you had earlier replied. Did you see the h.link I posted on Photons?

If so, what do you think?

This is another one for you John, I don't think I posted it the other day...?

http://www.psrast.org/antibMAFF.htm
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Postby Linn » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:11 pm

London wrote:John,

The watchdog-Project sunshine. Sorry, I posted that rply of mine before i knew you had earlier replied. Did you see the h.link I posted on Photons?

If so, what do you think?

This is another one for you John, I don't think I posted it the other day...?

http://www.psrast.org/antibMAFF.htm


woo london,
THAT is very interesting shall we contact:?
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