The Fiber Disease

[Deena]

Sabrina, that info is in your mailbox.

[Deena]

Ambien is horribel and the stories I have heard of people driving and doing things while on that are just unreal.

People..I checked out thenew scam site and you can not enter as a guest. You must sign in with all your information and they can open up your computer.

Be very careful if you go there. They have you by the short hairs.

On my site you can just be a guest without signing in although the "copy these letters" thing does come on. But I am not computer savvy.

Anyways..be very careful.

Randy

Ambien was a godsend for me. Took it for a little over a week and it got my sleep patterns back in check.

"Not computer savvey" Randy?
Nice try. You know very well that anyone visiting your site, registrant or guest leaves a footprint of their IP. Your own posts on your site indicate that. OOOOOPSE!

Well Frank, thank you for that contribution. You further varified many things. I have watched these things you describe occur often in the past and had people deny possibility and probability on every front. Not sure if your here to aid and abet Randy or not because you sure have helped drag her down. BRAVO!

Well congratulatrions standby. you win the vitriol award for the first totally uncalled for and completely unproductive post today. Eveyone else has managed to post as mature civil adults except you. This tell me who may need a little more special attention when I get back.

I'm sorry. Here comes my thorn, Al. I couldn't resist

[Doc44]

F N non Guru Stein threatened:

"This tell me who may need a little more special attention when I get back."

Your superficial knowledge as well as your gross ignorance concerning this disease is well demonstrated in your childish, distracting posts. This condition is quite serious and some people are trying very hard to help solve the problem. Others have demonstrated over and over for years that they are here for money by promoting products which they recieve a comission on the sales and are here to collect personal information through phone numbers, email addresses, IPs and actual names.

If you really want to help, do so. If not, QUIT MAKING SICK PEOPLE'S LIVES MORE DIFFICULT and clouding the real issues.

Doc44

[Deena]

My piss n vinegar appears to be kicking in after doing so well, keeping my mouth shut.

C Al. It's contagious. I must focus! Chores...

[Frank N Stein]

F N non Guru Stein threatened:

"This tell me who may need a little more special attention when I get back."

Your superficial knowledge as well as your gross ignorance concerning this disease is well demonstrated in your childish, distracting posts. This condition is quite serious and some people are trying very hard to help solve the problem. Others have demonstrated over and over for years that they are here for money by promoting products which they recieve a comission on the sales and are here to collect personal information through phone numbers, email addresses, IPs and actual names.

If you really want to help, do so. If not, QUIT MAKING SICK PEOPLE'S LIVES MORE DIFFICULT and clouding the real issues.

Doc44

How about a little challege doc?

Since you raise questions about credibility and productive posts. Why don't we just submit one post each that we feel offers something to the group regarding identifying and managing this disease?

I'll tell you what doc. I'll hanicap myself by limiting my posts to those that I have submitted in the last 24 hours. You get to choose from every post that you have ever submitted.

Got game doc?

[kmariezw]

Attn: mfromCanada, and all interested

On August 21,2006 I sent a link to tamtams videos to Dr. Garth Nicolson who I believe in whole heartededly. He responded by saying "I have seen the video (from several sources), and I agree the contents are disturbing. I had thought all along that genetic engineering must be involved because of the properties of insect, bacteria, fungi and parasites present in this type of infection. I know of nothing like this in nature--not even close. Prof. Nicolson"
His partial CV is attached. I don't know whom Randy spoke with regarding tamtams videos and it does not matter to me because I trust Dr. Nicolson. I am not a biologist but by following his advice rather than any other doctors I have seen I have a least had some temporary relief from doxycycline. I would also like to state that I think tamtams videos show an outstanding display of what is infecting us and I have not seen anyone else produce anything like it. I would like to thank tamtam from the bottom of my heart for producing and publishing them. I suspect he actually knows who has created this and he is worried about his own safety. I am aware that fear can be a great motivator and I am also aware that governments use fear to promote their own desires such as war. I am glad to have this forum to voice my opinion and welcome any criticism. I am wary of people who have good intentions but because of their own stupidity actually do more harm than good. I would rather have proof before I waste a lot of time, money and energy running around in circles with people I can't whole heartedly support.

I've watched the video's from TamTam and after scrutiny under my microscope I feel the images on the video are valid and unfortunate for me (us), many images I see under my own microscope match with the video. I'm a RN, and only took microbiology courses for my degree and do not profess to be an expert.

Also; likewise, doxycycline has certainly helped as I've been taking it for a little over 4 months. I have recently come across some interesting theories to be shared later after I ascertain them.

May God help us all,
Kmariezw

[Frank N Stein]

Bump for the noob. This is why Tam Tam's video is a scam operation. When somebody, anybody, can provide data to counter this data set, we can develop a different conclusion. Until then, you're just posting BS on a scientific forum. Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one. Science relies on data. Tam Scam was asked to provide data for over a year and had to leave this forum when he could no longer deny that he was just a common spammer using his presentation to lure people to his site. The supporting data for this claim and all others in this post can be found in the pages of this thread

Do you have any proof about your theory on tamtam?

OK, that’s a fair question. Let’s look at what is considered as proof in objective scientific analysis. In logical and scientific analysis, a known object of study is observed and measured for data which define a set characteristics, which in turn support a conclusion. There are many sets of observation which are considered valid. Not all data sets are composed of visible data.

An example of this is atomic observation. No one has seen an atom. Yet we know it exists because of its behavioral characteristics. We know how atoms behave, and therefore draw conclusions based upon their behavior. If one group of atoms behave in one manner, and another group behaves in another manner, we can then categorize them by their behavioral characteristics. We can’t see atoms, but we know from the data characteristics that they display what they are, and how they will effect our environment.

Tam Tam can be evaluated in the same manner. Once again here is a set of known data that defines the conclusions that I have made about Tam Tam.

1) Tam Tam composed an elaborate thesis, but failed to validate it with requested data for over a year. A logical conclusion is that he may be lying, and therefore has no data to support his thesis.
2) Tam Tam operated a very expensive, high bandwidth, web site with no visible means of paying the bill. When questioned about this, Tam Tam stated that he has received funding from investors in the “French Nose & Co.” investment company which does not exist. A logical conclusion is that Tam Tam is once again lying, and that he is making money to pay his bill from some other source.
3) Tam Tam’s web site used a very professional, and expensive video presentation to capture a target audience, and led them to believe that he had identified the source of their problem, but did not disclose what the source was. The web page then invited the audience to create a “user login” where it is assumed that the audience will gain greater site privileges, and be given more information. After submitting the personal information, the audience finds that there are no more privileges or information beyond that which has already been given on the first and only page. A logical conclusion is that Tam Tam is using the video presentation to lure people to submit personal information, which he compiles and sells to data mining companies at a profit.

Now there is your data which is acceptable by scientific methodology. These three simple sets of data lead to a conclusion that Tam Tam is nothing more than a common spammer based upon behavioral characteristics. To reach a different conclusion, you would have to include different data. Tam Tam has been asked to provide data which would offset the balance of data displayed here, but has refused to do so.

Now I have answered your question by basing my conclusion upon scientific methodology.

Now I have a question for you, and will continue to ask this same question of you until you provide a valid answer that is also based upon scientific methodology.

Sabrina, what data can you provide that will indicate that Tam Tam is a valid microbiological researcher who has discovered that the source of the morgellons infection is a man made bacterium, that forms intelligent proteins within us, and is assembling insect parts within our bodies?

We will each go one question at a time here, and will not proceed to the next question until each has submitted a valid, objective answer. This is the biology-online.org scientific forum, not the USA Today entertainment forum.

[London]

I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING OKAY AND DO SO MISS YOU ALL-EVEN THE GUILTY ONES1

TOLD YOU ALL- IT IS THE PORPHYRINS, SOLAR CELLS AND PHOTONIC FUSION! I HOPE ALL OF YOU ARE DOING WELL…..I HAVE NOT READ ANY PRIOR POST SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HERE AT THE FORUM.
I discontinued the internet on Jan 2nd . I’m currently using a public computer to post here

It is illegal what all they are doing. No where in the NSF document does it say that they would be coming into our homes and leaving putrid things, nor does it say that they will be pumping toxic fumes and gases into our homes. Check your windows on the inside- mine have a yellowish-gold film or resin on them.

If you are blistering like me it is the porphyrins causing it. They have nearly blinded me with their adaptive optics…..hell, I have the document from the NSF where they state they are using the porphyrin polymers, sol-gel and fibers in their “discreet” optio-electronics! I swear, that is the cheesy word they use too! Discreet, huh NITA?

Let’s see, yes oh, found out that yes, lasers can penetrate thru walls of a home and that we are being viewed.

Also, they are trying to actually create cyborgs from us. They already have put the steel in our bodies. It is the zinc-coated whiskers that look like extra hairs. They will not succeed at this.

They can take the gd stuff off of me or I will be going to the FBI with this. The very next lesion I receive I will start naming names.

Such a shame that they have to use artificial life to get what they want. Cheap, energy is the name of the game. Greedy B_stards they are. The computer artist are the ones that created this by the way….check out nanobots, artificial life and cyborgs.

Don’t think this is not about coal and diamonds either, b/c it is. The ocean is ruined, we are dying from their indoor pollution they have created in us.

Now, maybe some of you will start looking at porphyrins and plasmas and photonic fusion b\c this is where it is all coming from.

Here it is……the good ole NSF wrote a synopsis of it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 104504.htm

A big shout hello toMaggie, Deena, sky and Dr. Stein.....someone needs to let Skytroll know why she was banned? She said (via phone that she can read here but not sign in and post.) She also said you guys were in a big argument....talked of Tam writing about serial killers and Randy going to the law.....dunno, I did not get to see any post but hope all is okay with everyone. Even the guilty ones. Why you guys we have become a family here and it is sad. The whole thing is just sad. I believe if Tam did post anything on serial killers that he was demonstrating the chaos theory only, but like I said, I dunno, I did not see any post but the ones on this page.

I'm quite sure the VOIP PHONE SYSTEM IS HOW I GOT THIS DISEASE.

JUST REMEMBER....IT IS ALL SYNTHETIC. THAT IS THE KEY.

[Frank N Stein]

Welcome back Dear London. Have you been following the thread?

[London]

Dr. Stein!!!! Hi!!! no, not at all, not one page read here in two weeks! I have to go now but will try to get back tomorrow. (My computer time is up) I'm at a cheesy public facility using the internet....gotta run...hope you are okay.....hope eveyone is okay......Frank, do you by any chance know about the chaos theory?

Thanks~ London

[Frank N Stein]

I'm clueless about Sky. If anybody could get banned here, I'd already be gone. I've been a bad boy London.

[Frank N Stein]

Chaos as related to quantum physics?