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Postby msc » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:55 pm

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you are all starting not to make sense again. you can't make anti-semetic remarks about people, that will get you nowhere in this fight against what was done to us. you have to stay clear headed and not let the anger bring out the evil that those who created have in them. you have to wiser, you have to civil, you have to have proof documented and we have to find some out there who is against this cruel and inhumane act to prove it for us. you need to concentrate on now finding someone who can do tests that would prove it and we know how many tests can prove this, just by all the research you have done in chemical and biological research, if it was man made and they used all of these chemicals in creating this all of this chemicals would show up in a simple MTT assay for cytotoxicity test and numerous other tests, stereioisomers show up in blood, mutated lipids show up in cholesterol, hair blood and urine samples show toxins and each chemical has a cas identifier number.
we need a pathologist to prove the chemicals are still active in our systems and damage it is causing. you need to be writing to find advocate rights groups against these chemicals. look up the chemicals and look up research that proves these chemicals are toxic and harmful to human cells, tissues, organs, central nervous system. we need to organize a group that can meet have the media see what we have which forces their hand to help us. call green peace, they already have documents asked them to get involve, all your policiticians, better to put everything in writing though and keep a copy. that is what osu is trying to do also.
registered with them give them infor on any toxic chemicals you might have used in medication and over the counter meds. and products. if they have enough proof then they have something to go on to the gov't like the cdc and fda. look up patents on your medications see what is really in them see if they mislabeled and mislead you to believe they were safe. in the future when a physician gives you a prescription, tell them you want to see the physicians desk reference that lists all the harmful effects. the pamphlet that came with my prescription and the one
that the pharmacist gives you with the prescription listed none of the side effects that the pdr book had in it and especially that EGDMA causes chromosone abberations, neither had that they were chemo agents and neither stated accutane and all the horrible side effects of accutane, such as blured vision, burnt corneas, how it effects night vision, how it causes depression, suicide, swelled feet and ankles, biofilms were not listed anywhwere nor ligands and lipids and self assembly structures. we still don't know what they self assembly into that is my biggest concern, what are these structures assembly into and retinoids that change dna to rna that can replicate itself, what is it replicating into and what happened to my dna. my friends fingerprint would not match up they had to keep retaking it and had to keep wiping her fingers and thumb with alcohol swabs, doesn't that tell you that there is something on us. when your finger prints don't match what was on file before taking this product shows it is altering or covering us with its rna. you all have to pull it together and you have to stop with the silly nonsense talk, you are just adding fuel to their fire of delusional and crazy titles they will put on you
don't let them label you. i know you are all at a disadvantage and are sick and are frustrated and have suffered physically, mentally, emotionally and financially, and this is the hardest time of the year on all of this and the most stressfull. our family won't be having another Christmas nor will my friend, watching your children do without is the hardest, especially when you teach them to have faith and to believe in God and will show you the way and bring the truth out. they are effected the most, embarassed by their life style and watching their friends have Christmas and expensive presents while they get nothing and as the
my friend's family suffered the humiliation by DYFS and these physicians and their mother labeled as DOP was even harder on this children, but put an E at the end of DOP and these DOPES will be exposed and hopefully as photos show they allowed themselves to be infected, remember it is he who laughs last that is important. hold your head up high, smile and kill them with kindness, with descriptive detail infor on chemicals you used that were harmful to your body and the evidentiary
proof that supports that, doing all the research on all useless topics won't help our situation, they need proof of what chemicals you used in a product, that are biologcially damaging to your system and proof that these physicians refused to do their job to diagnosis you. God Bless you
keep the faith, maybe someone out there will help us before the holiday
call the churches get them involved. remember to prove your case have all support there to prove it, go to the library look in the PDR books as
i never knew the library had them nor that they existed to a nurse told me, when the physicians leaves the room after seeing you and hearing your complaints they go to their office and look in the PDR books, they all knew that the product my friend used was toxic and biologically damaging.
they deliberately preveted her from having tests she requested and requested over and over again for seven years in writing and verbally and with witnesses. we need to find a compassionate ethical person to help her and all who experienced the same thing.
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Postby reliefseeker » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:22 pm

Barz said:


If anyone reading this has any idea of what we go through - it is not doctors' oblivious disregard for us, on the contrary, it is their decided thoroughness of covering it up and denying that makes this a true conspiracy. If you are up to allowing this to continue on the current path, contact Randy at the above mentioned number in her post. You will get more of the same.


Barz, you are so right, when I was in the hospital, a doctor admitted he saw a fluke from my leg and that he would do a Ct-scan... but he did not come back, when we asked for him we were told that he was not there that day and would not be there the next day.

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Postby Barz » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:32 pm

It's all too sad, reliefseeker. I am glad you are out of the Helpless Hotel, aka hospital.

It is amazing to me that Randy believes that she can change things. She doesnt realize how much time she is stealling from those suffering. Or maybe that is her intent.

The cdc will not find any bacteria that says that this is contagious. It has already been stated by Tam. We are wasting our time with them. As you can see by their spin doctors, all indications are that we will end up dop.

Our federal tax dollars are being spent to give us an outcome we already know.
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Postby J Jill » Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:49 pm

Just recently picked up Barbara Olsons' last book - "The Final Days"- about Clinton-

Interesting book.

Came across some info about ICC. That's the International Criminal Court. According to Barb, it was established by the 1998 Rome Statute and designed to deal with international offenses such as war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity.

The latter caught my eye.

Seems that the ICC, based in the Netherlands, is empowered to arrest, prosecute and punish individuals- no matter where they are from for the aforementioned offenses.

Problem is that there would be no "Rights",as we know them, available to the accused. No Bill of Rights- No Constitution. No protections such as the right to a jury trial- the protection against double jeopardy, the right to confront accusers and so on.

That brings me to my point.

There is a danger here. Consider this.

1) We are- "We the People" as Sky and others constantly state in posts

2) TamTam (and others) state that our govenment and other institutions are complicit in this affair (fibers/emerging disease/s)

*as an aside, I just read where Europe is now the leader in HIV/AIDS cases

3) Question: Who, then, is culpable?

Think about it.
"When you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon."
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Postby Barz » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:48 pm

RANDY wrote:
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Oh and about those OTHER sites...all they do is help people feel sorry for themselves...and get a huge reward out of being saviors.....no one on those sites are doing anything either. So join the useless club, the feel sorry for myself club. If you talk about actually doing something on those sites those on the site who think they are in charge..get real pissy..prime example is right here. Follow Tam or get off the site. Follow MRF or get off of Lymebusters. Any independent thought is frowned upon. I am not frowning upon your independent thought..I say go for it but stay focused and do not have an new thought each day.



FOCUS, STUDY, PROVE, UNITE, and always be a chess move or two ahead of your enemy since hate will never be allowed to prevail. HATE is stupid and you can out think it.




Oh, I get it. Thanks, Ranty. You just defined your idea of leadership. In the next post, Ranty will tell you how crazy you are. So who IS doing anything to help this cause in your perspective, Ranty???? Its not about YOU!!!!
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Postby London » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:06 am

To whomever it is trying to scare me.....
Yes, I heard the 17 gunshots outside my home last night. Yes, it did scare me. But you do what you gotta do.
As I said in my very last post, this info I had posted was going no farther- and it's not. The docs cant do anything about it anyway.....just want to be left alone to live the rest of the crappy life i have.....you don't bother me=and i will do the same.
If you must kill me, bang on with it. But you and at least 200 names will be charged with my murder.
Why would I want to get anyone in trouble is what you have to ask yourself, Why? would it benefit me in any way? No. I mean would it get me well> no..... I don;t know how to stop protein kinases or turn back my gene P 450/ 10/........
Look, I have already turned my cell off and to prove i will not be posting or digging for anymore info....I;m about to turn the computer off. I don;t need it. I know what this is:
Porphyria Cutanea Tarda thru lasers and adaptive optics.....
Granted, I don't know what all the cloning was nor do i want to know.....I;,m probably turning into 1/2 grey herring or something.....chirp, chirp
You just do what you gotta do man,,,,touch my cars or my loved ones then YES, I GO FORWARD. lEAVE ME ALONE AND I LEAVE YOU ALONE....THAT IS THE HONEST TO GODS TRUTH,

BYE YOU ALL, MUCH LOVE TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.....EVEN THE GUILTY ONES....


PS

MSC, sorry, just now seeing your post to me about the retinoids. I know I don;t have the inside pamphlets from retin a b/c that was at least 3 yrs ago. The last two tubes I have are from Mexico where I would get in the farmacia.......what to do ya know?

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Postby tamtam » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:19 am

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Postby msc » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:10 am

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we know they used slicon, silica, hdpe, and fiber optics, at least two patients pathologist report came back with those agents and neither patient work in those types of industries, we need to find out then did a product or medication create this and if we used a product or medication with the same ingredients if that is ruled out then we go with chem trails and it is then being sprayed on us and find out who is responsible for that and what is the reasoning for it. this is why it is so important that you allow your voice and rights to be heard. we do not work for our government or whom ever nor do they own us. they work for us, we pay their salaries. we a government official turns corrupt and puts the lives of people in danger they are to be held accountable, it becomes murder and they are not protected under ammunity of the 11th amendment. excercise your rights under the 14th amendment, don't let that amendment die, you are entitled to redress. americans became lazy and content in trusting their elective leaders to protect them. these people get caught you herar about it for a while in the press and then the story goes away. they have to be held accountable and you have to make sure they are held accountable and that the courts hear it. when lawyers refuse to protect our rights they should be disbarred. when it comes to the health and welfare of what is turning out to be a vast quantity of people this issue should take front line to our govt, the cdc and fda we have a right to know why products are being sold that are mislabeled and no warnings on them and why dangerous biological medicines are being dispensed like they are candy. look up styrenes (ethenlybenzene, phenethylene) organic compounds with aromatic hydrocarbons, look up
microbial degradation alkenybenzenes. it is a colorless oily liquid from which polystyrenes and synthetic rubbers are produces, vinylbenzene.
it is without a doubt the microbeads are being used in this agent as the vehicle using our hair follicles to deliver these toxic chemicals and nano magnets are put in them that make these ligands that are produced and toxic vapor clouds. the magnets connect the wires together closing tightly being virtually invisible, but now at least in my friends case they are emerging from the skin and hair and are not invisible, and apparantly from others who can visibly see them. let's have a reall face the nation
any and every physician who wants to say it is DOP let them say it to our faces, shke our heads, take the real test--take a fine comb and comb through our hair on tv with camera taking still frame photos, and a video camera that can be played back on the slowest speed such as photographers used in filming nature. exame every sample right there under the best microscopes, under all lights (wood's lamp, infrared, blue light as retinoids emit the blue light, the white light, have a dark solid background, not open space. photographers can put the negatives on a film projector and let the film show what it sees. there is nothing hard about this. how do some people go to a doctor and get every test under the sun given to them, just on a routine checkup, but we get no testing done even if they thought you were crazy you are still entitled to the same tests that they give other patients, blood work, xrays, ekg, eeg.
no one has yet to explain why we are not given a full examination and tests? the longer we are told to wait the more internal damage is being done to our bodies, our dna and our minds and to our families everything involved with these retinoids show toxicity and chromosone and dna damage, they state cause vision problems, they state they use them in mind altering drugs and in pesticides--they USE THEM TO KILL INSECTS AND THEY USED THEY TO ALTER YOUR MIND AND THEY USE THEM TO GIVE YOU GLOWING SHINY RADIANT SKIN. DO ANYONE OF YOU WHO HAVE USED RETINOIDS FEED GLOWING AND RADIANT. ARE ANY OF YOU LOSING YOUR HAIR? WERE YOU WARNED THAT YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR HAIR? SOME ONE NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS NOW, NOT TOMORROW, NOW, WERE YOU TOLD YOUR CORNEAS WOULD BE BURNT AND YOUR VISION IMPAIRED. WERE YOU GIVEN A CHOICE AND AN OPTION, NO--THEREFORE YOUR RIGHTS WERE TAKEN FROM YOU AND THAT VIOLATES FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND FEDERAL LAWS OF DRUGS, FOOD AND COSMETICS, IT VIOLATES NUREMBURG AND IT VIOLATES HYPOCRATIC OATH.. THE ACLU NEEDS TO STEP IN AND HELP US, WE ARE VICTIMS NO DOUBT ABOUT. IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE FDA OR THEIR OWN STATES CONSUMER PROTECTION AUTHORITIES AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES, IF NOT YOU NEED TO. another website you might find interesting is CNN-Sturdy digital bugs capture microsoft. aug/17/1999

http://llwww.cnn.com/TECh/computing/990 ... o.compute/ - 27k

God knows what they are able to do and create. what all technology combined has created. did they create a hybrid organism programmed with a brain that's become radical and self replicating using their colorless and transluscent crystalline chemicals and they can't control it? if they did be honest be responsible and resolve the stess and hearache of the people you have hamred. To the physicians who participated and betrayed your patient's trust and put them in harms way, come forward and for once be ethical and represent the oath you took and thr commitment you took on and tell what you know and stop allowing the cruel act to continue. dangerous products are on the market that need to be recalled, such as accutan, isotretinion, tretinoin, benzene, tegison.
People are killing themselves, is it from depression or is from the frightening horrific world the organisms it created and encompasses or is your word encapsulate a better terminology, and they just couldn't stand not being able to sleep and to rest because of the constant spinning, pulling and pain and knowing that no one would believe them if they tried to explain what they were seeing and feeling because of stupid arrogant physicians telling them they were dop. you have all pushed the wrong buttons for too long and you will end up hurting the wrong person. maybe it is time to see if these children who go on shooting sprees in school systems were on accutane and other mind altering drugs and what horrific chemicals were in there pruducts. it is against the law to smoke marijuana, then why is tetrahydro put in renova? you can have a person be wrongfully arrested and charged for this -- i find this to be a major crime here . and those who used these products have a right to redress now and an open public apology from ever dermatologist and physicians who participated in this crime and it would be an honorable righteous thing to turn yourselves in now before the holidays as you have robbed enough from your patients. immediate relief should be given today to those families who suffered for years from financial hardships and the inability of parents being able to go to work to support their families and suffering that these children went through, and I am talking about alot of women who used this product. the orginal book on renova shows clearly the glowing white organism they created out of gases that carry microorganisms and bacteria as Johnson & Johnson knew this and changed to a black and white pencil etching pictures and photos. i think the people posing in that booklet need to know what was done to them
and how photos show it.
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Postby al » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:34 am

The curse of leadership is the failure of followers to sustain the critical drive coming from an internal fire of the soul that impels them to greatness. True leaders have that fire and recognize it in others. Many so-called leaders degrade their followers and push them into corrupt conceptions of the true nature of their potential. Powerful leaders grasp the significance of the human spirit and seek to exalt people.

References

Rand, Ayn 1971, The Fountainhead. New York: Bobbs-Merrill Company.
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Postby DS » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:56 am

Yes, indeed you are on the money, tamtam. Although I will add that one of her previous employers is/was Texas A&M. Seems mrs london gets around.









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