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Postby J Jill » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:48 pm

TT, some of this info you've given us is coming together (for me anyway).

Proteome and genome research- must be huge in this matter- as you point out.

Absence of accountability is the right term.-


Agreed-We (most of us) have no idea of what they (scientists) are doing so how can they be governed much less be held accountable?

Sky-

Good news in the area of Folded Proteins- Mad Cow, etc:

Excerpt:

12 July 2004

Doxycycline and protein folding agents rescue the abnormal phenotype of familial CJD H187R in a cell model

Excerpt:

Doxycycline and protein folding agents rescue the abnormal phenotype of familial CJD H187R in a cell model
Familial Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (CJD) comprises a group of neurodegenerative disorders for which currently there is no treatment. In this study, we evaluated the efficacy of drugs approved for human use, and protein folding agents in reversing the mutant phenotype of familial CJD H187R in a cell model. For an efficient experimental readout, green fluorescent protein (GFP)-tagged mutant prion protein (PrP187R-GFP) and wild-type PrP (PrPC-GFP) were expressed in human neuroblastoma cells. We report that unlike PrPC-GFP that is expressed on the cell surface, PrP187R-GFP accumulates in the lysosomes of transfected cells. Treatment of PrP187R-GFP cells with quinacrine or doxycycline, agents known to inhibit the replication of PrP-scrapie (PrPSc) in experimental models, gave conflicting results; doxycycline reverted the mutant phenotype of PrP187R-GFP cells, whereas quinacrine had no effect. The concentration of doxycycline used in these studies is well within the plasma concentration of patients receiving a 250–600 mg dose two to three times daily. Interestingly, exposure of PrP187R-GFP cells to low temperature (28°C) or to the chemical chaperones dimethyl sulphoxide (DMSO) and glycerol also reversed the mutant phenotype. These data suggest that doxycycline and protein folding agents may hold promise as therapeutic agents for familial CJD H187R and other familial disorders that share similar pathogenic mechanisms.

end excerpt

http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/001821/index.html


Doxy again!
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Postby mfromcanada » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:36 pm

J Jill, your post on doxycycline. I used this for one year and nine months and felt a lot better. It did not get rid of the lesions but many other symptoms improved. I then got a fungal infection in my mouth and on my tongue. I used an antifungal and it went away. I would definately take doxycycline again, myself. Is this what the article states. I found it hard to understand?
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ELECTION TIME

Postby Sabrina » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:44 pm

Such wonderful posts!

Sorry I have gotten so far behind in my reading, I have much catching up to do. The last post I read was the one Deena addressed me in.

Deena,

You literally left me speechless and lifted my heart. Thank you for such kind words and for dedicating your Saturday evening to all of us by writing your story to share here. You are an extremely strong woman. I’m sorry you suffer but glad to have you on our side in this fight. Thank you. :D


To all,

We are having an election.


WE NEED A LEADER!

We are holding an election on Friday, December 15th 2006 to fill the positions of leadership necessary, and to represent this group now forming to carry out our goal to help us unite, and seek and obtain legal counsel and services as a number one priority.

We will start by nominating who we want and then ask them if they are willing to hold this position. Only those eligible for nomination are the people already registered and actively participating in this forum. We need this leader to be respected and trusted by the victims. We also need this leader to be willing to take this position on.

Let’s start with three. Please copy, fill out, and paste the below ballot and send by PM to Showmeproof, J Jill, and Reliefseeker.




I,______________ would like to nominate _____________ to lead and represent the group now forming with the goal to unite, and seek and obtain legal counsel and services as a number one priority.

In the event that this person should decline this position of leadership, my alternative choice would be _______________.

In realizing the great responsibility this leader will have, the need for additional help will be necessary and I would like to see _________________, _______________ and alternatively _________________work with the elected leader.

Sincerely,

___________________


Once these nominees have been privately selected and privately agree to run and accept this responsibility if elected, only then will their names be considered as valid candidates.

Please send your nominations to the people I have selected above by Thursday December 14th. Results for the nominees will be released Friday the 15th and you may vote anytime after that up until December 18th. Results for the election will be released on 12-20 (new moon). Please make sure you title your PM appropriately buy putting “nomination”, and secondly “my vote” in the space provided.

This attempt at organizing will only work if we all participate. I am offering a way to gain some structure so we can continue to move forward in a more productive manner. Please join me in this challenge and get involved by doing do your part. Thanks.

Peace,
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Sabrina's Idea

Postby Maggie Mae » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:51 pm

Well, that is a good start - I am wondering if you might explain how to get a current list of persons particular to this forum so I can choose...I see quite a lot of people read, post periodically, or often...

I am wondering if all have filled a profile so that we can see a bit more info...I am all for this as I believe we may now have at least a tiny toe to stand on (Dr. Stanaiger's research)
and from filing a major lawsuit against Monsanto in 86' I realize a lot of their "stalls, symantic technicalities, methodology deceptions, etc....in all areas involved, including Corp., FDA, USDA, EPA, Forestry, etal...because they all pulled a lot of quicky crap that bought them more time (so the friggen' crap they poisoned us with dissipated!!)....
so the quicker we get something on file, the better - technically, you have one year from the time you knew or should have known what we were infected with.
Once my year ran close to out, I could refile to keep it open for one more year. So, if Dr. Stainiger is accurate, and these are some nano device, then her publically presented information would be the "year" starting point. Getting specific about what kind of nano device may also buy us more time to file.

I was thinking about contacting the lawyer that handled my suit as well as a lot of environmental groups cases in this area...he's in Knoxville, still very active and has actually taken on Y12 and Oak Ridge. Some of my friends got counter-sued with a "slap suit" in the millions, trying to intimidate them...he got them way offffffffff. His name is Gary Davis. So, there is some more possibly good info.
I pray this endeavor is blessed, directed by God Himself, and SUCCESSFUL.
Do you all realize the TIME (4 hours a day for 13 years, 2 before work, 2 after, washing, cleaning, etc..) alone - trips to the stores, co-ops, libraries, etc....searching for products, info, then not to mention time spent alone away from everyone because you were fearful they would get it, tease you, bitch at you for scratching, and/or depression ...

THEY COULD NOT PAY US ENOUGH TO MAKE IT RIGHT, YA KNOW.[/b]

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Sabrina's Idea

Postby Maggie Mae » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:55 pm

Well, that is a good start - I am wondering if you might explain how to get a current list of persons particular to this forum so I can choose...I see quite a lot of people read, post periodically, or often...
I am wondering if all have filled a profile so that we can see a bit more info...I am all for this as I believe we may now have at least a tiny toe to stand on (Dr. Stanaiger's research) and from filing a major lawsuit against Monsanto in 86' I realize a lot of their "stalls, symantic technicalities, methodology deceptions, etc....in all areas involved, including Corp., FDA, USDA, EPA, Forestry, etal...because they all pulled a lot of quicky crap that bought them more time (so the friggen' crap they poisoned us with disipated!!)....so the quicker we get something on file - we have up to 2 years, I believe, to keep it open. I also believe from same - that we have up to a year from "THE TIME WE KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN" what we are infected with. So, technically, if Dr. Stainiger is accurate, and these are some nano device, then her publically presented information would be the "year" starting point. Getting specific about what kind of nano device may also buy us more time to file. I was thinking about contacting the lawyer that handled my suit as well as a lot of environmental groups cases in this area...he's in Knoxville, still very active and has actually taken on Y12 and Oak Ridge. His name is Gary Davis. So, there is some more possibly good info. I pray this endeavor is blessed, directed by God Himself, and SUCCESSFUL.
Do you all realize the TIME (4 hours a day for 13 years, 2 before work, 2 after, washing, cleaning, etc..) alone - trips to the stores, co-ops, libraries, etc....searching for products, info, then not to mention time spent alone away from everyone because you were fearful they would get it, tease you, bitch at you for scratching, and/or depression ...
THEY COULD NOT PAY US ENOUGH TO MAKE IT RIGHT, YA KNOW.
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Postby southcity » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:28 pm

JJill states

Agreed-We (most of us) have no idea of what they (scientists) are doing so how can they be governed much less be held accountable?


Here is a fairly current list of the who's, the what's and where's of much currently going on. http://wwwlib.ntut.edu.tw/data/eng/pqdd ... y01-04.xls
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Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
Then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
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Postby Deena » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:36 pm

Right back at you, Sabrina!

After reading your post, I honestly struggled on your request and surprisingly found myself with only one answer as to who I personally could trust to hold such a position, with the answer being only obvious. This said, I'd like to make this my vote~publicly...Sabrina.

Otherwise, maybe a suggestion and with all due respect, perhaps some type of eligibility could be created. No offense to anyone but after trusting so many (with my very own children's lives, at that) I found the ones I never would have expected, to be the ones that I should have expected...blinded by a simple, "your in good hands with allstate".
I really have no good suggestions on "type" of eligibility but perhaps more detailed personal info. that is viewable by (one) and maybe a donation from all who wish to donate to a backround search fund for this (one )to run. And maybe enough of a donation for at least a years subscription for a screening to be run on any persons who wish to partake in this matter.

I really, really hope my words don't offend anybody. Unfortunately this world has so sadly come down to a world we are now so insecure of.

I personally would feel much better if those who mattered didn't suspect I might be an Alien :roll: I couldn't resist, London :lol:

Sincerely,
DeenaRae (NO RAELEANS MEMBER) ~Just Deena Rae

For whatever it is worth, I hope nothing but the most positive outcome from this. I have always felt like it's the Big Guys against the Little Guys and in order to be the Big Guys, it will require Faith in God...don't worry, I won't go off on Scripture, again :D If/when it is needed, I have over 5 years worth of photos/microscopic photos and both microscopic video and reg. videotape recordings, medical records (including detected mold levels that maxed the charts, in my family's blood, Ige and Combo E, i think it is), samples and entire copy of my personal Litigation 12/2001 to 8/2006 that I would like to donate.

One more thing to add here. 5 years of litigation was 5 more years taken from myself and family. I do not remember Tristen's (my youngest boy) first 5 years of life. I am only posting what I have learned from this (nothing else). I went into this extremely angry and with intent to pin their asses to the wall as I held every bit of evidence that I needed to proove Insurance Fraud and Induced Bodily Harm. Cannot recall, at the moment, the other "Big Words" they used in our case, point is: You don't mess with a mother's child/children whether human/mammal whatever. I saw blood and I was going to get it. It was extremely difficult. The only thing I realized in the end and what I needed to be greatful for was that I still had my family and health, yes very altered, but we are still together. 5 years was waisted because our minds revolved around this, not our children. It was frustrating, distracting and rediculous at many times. We could have won huge, considering appeals would take place, but $ did not matter anymore. We lost everything we had, including our dream home and $ still did not matter. It finally became clear that each day we continued that lawsuit, was another day they stole from us. We settled out of court. My Victory...I still have my family.

My husband said to me this morning when we woke up...."Remember in the movie, The Titanic, when the ship was going down, the old couple that just went in their room and layed down on the bed together"? Well that will be us.

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Postby Sabrina » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:46 pm

Dear Maggie Mae,

Thanks for your support. We are going to need divine intervention so keep those prayers coming. I do not know how to get a list of members here so it looks like you will have to either search old posts or go with what you know.



southcity wrote:JJill states

Agreed-We (most of us) have no idea of what they (scientists) are doing so how can they be governed much less be held accountable?




South, and if we do not try our alternative is what?

Peace,
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Postby J Jill » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:22 pm

Thanks for the link, South! Good one!

Hey, try this Google:

skinparasites.com (they have wiped the net clean of any and all posts related to the board, but....)

found this:

http://www.winona.edu/ifo/courseproposa ... gy_460.doc.

skinparasites com

Approved by Faculty Senate February 9, 2004.

Approved by University Studies Sub-Committee January 21, 2004. A2C2 action pending.

BIOLOGY 460: GENERAL PARASITOLOGY

Medical Technology Students

Spring 2004

Instructor: Dr. Kim Bates (Lecture and Laboratory)

Office Hours: Posted on door and web page, and by appointment

115A Pasteur Hall, 457-5458

E-mail: kbates@winona.edu

Lectures: T, R 3:30-4:50 PM, Pasteur 101

Labs: Section 01 M 3:00-4:50, Pasteur 203

Section 02 W 3:00-4:50, Pasteur 203

Text: Foundations of Parasitology by Larry S. Roberts and John Janovy, Jr.

(Gerald D. Schmidt, deceased)

Parasite Rex by

No lab text.

Web pages: http://bio.winona.msus.edu/bates/syllabus99.html

University of Missouri’s: http://www.missouri.edu/~vmicrorc/vp556.html

http://www.skinparasites.com/ (Unidentified Skin Parasites)


***

Parasite Rex-
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/partner? ... 074320011X

Excerpt:

Parasite Rex:Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures
by Carl Zimmer

For centuries, parasites have lived in nightmares, horror stories, and in the darkest shadows of science. Yet these creatures are among the world's most successful and sophisticated organisms. In Parasite Rex, Carl Zimmer deftly balances the scientific and the disgusting as he takes readers on a fantastic voyage. Traveling from the steamy jungles of Costa Rica to the fetid parasite haven of southern Sudan, Zimmer graphically brings to life how parasites can change DNA, rewire the brain, make men more distrustful and women more outgoing, and turn hosts into the living dead.

End excerpt


# How to Live in a Parasitic World

A sick planet, and how the most newly arrived parasite

can be part of a cure


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another review on the book:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/book117.htm

Excerpt:

“Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures”
Carl Zimmer
ISBN: 0684856387

Review
298 pages, includes index and b/w illustrations

Parasites. Certainly something you don’t think about often, unless, of course, you are a parasitologist. In “Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures,” author Carl Zimmer’s intrepid investigation of parasitology makes for an engrossing read. According to Zimmer, most people on Earth carry parasites. “Over 1.4 billion people carry the snakelike roundworm Ascaris lumbricoides in their intestines; almost 1.3 billion carry blood-sucking hookworms; 1 billion have whipmorm,” writes Zimmer. At least two million people a year die of malaria, a disease caused by the protozoan Plasmodium.

From hookworms to tapeworms to guinea worms, you will learn the ins and outs (literally) of these sometimes deadly, always unwanted guests. The guinea worm, a parasitic nematode, lives in the abdomen of humans. After a female guinea worm mates, she leaves to release larvae by way of her host’s leg.

end excerpt

* Evidently, there was a class that was taught at Winona U that used the link (NUSPA) as a reference tool for the students.

Also interesting is the fact that the area of study was "Parasite Rex".
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Postby Skytroll » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:42 pm

Take the narrow road. You will learn more.

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Postby Deena » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:45 pm

I was working on my post awhile. And I kept pulling it to edit.
I know I am better at cheerleading but if you guys wouldn't mind, could you please read it. It's not Scripture, I promise.

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Postby Deena » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:46 pm

Deena wrote:I was working on my post awhile. And I kept pulling it to edit.
I know I am better at cheerleading but if you guys wouldn't mind, could you please read it. It's not Scripture, I promise.

DeenaRae

oh ya, pg 457 after Sabrinas request
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