Human Anatomy, Physiology, and Medicine. Anything human!
Just commenting: I know people who have had this and cancer and MS and AIDS and they have gone through chemo and radiation and taken the AIDs cocktail and Interfuron and still this has not been killed. The only thing we can do is minimize what it does to ourselves which is builds up fungus, bacteria and attracts pparasites and bugs.
So always keep an antiparasitic, antifungal and antibiotic on hand if you feel you are getting overwhelmed.
For lesions contact the guy in Germany..his cream works....and I have no idea how it works or why it works but it works and you will feel really good having clear skin again.
I have no idea if it kills it internally..but I think by killing the reproductive stage which happens under the primary layers of skin..if you kill the babies you have no second generation. That is my guess.
Until then..keep bugging the CDC to come clean with good valid answers and not BS run around in a circle answers. Contact you rstate senators and insist they stay on top of the CDC.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... wsid=43992
Very important reading!
Who want to send this to Rutz???????
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... wsid=43992
Why is there nothing listed on the CDC site about “Fiber Disease Syndrome” AKA Morgellons? I have sent doctor to the site stating that you are investigating it and they have told me that there is nothing on the site and when they call the CDC, the CDC states that nothing is being done.
Are you the new Mike Brown? Why is there no number for a doctor to call?
Why is it that no one I know, Schwartz, Wymore or any person that has this has been contacted. How do you do an investigation? Do you sit in a room with your head….where?????
Why are there no minutes from any meetings?
Why is there so much money going to bioterrorism (link above) but none of it being used to discuss or create a protocol for a disease not yet on the books that could be gnomically created by someone?
Why are you ignoring that we are unprotected from diseases and virus’ that could be concocted that are NOT listed in your database of already know disease?
Why is there no money allocated to setting up a protocol for reporting and investigating these new disease?
Are you EVER going to answer any of my questions? You keep saying you have answered them and you have not. I am getting insulted. Are you just a mouth peace with no actual power? Are you ruled by Republicans and our President and are just a puppet with no actual power? If so, please let me know and I will stop bothering a man without any real power to do anything because he is afraid of losing his job.
Do we have to get all of us together and do a sit in on the lawn of the CDC and chant out your name and get the press to attend?
That will be our next move. I demand some actual answers and not just a run around.
Randy B Yaskal
Check this out.
Great links randy, thanks.
Forgive me for being distrusting, but thing are actually not "evident enough." Evident enough to whom, I ask? To you, perhaps, but certainly not enough to me. I don't have any reason to go on your word that "things are evident enough."
A transcript will be helpful, and a complete, concise, explanation of your hypothesis and your methods and your conclusions will be helpful.
I am new to the fiber disease (Morgellon's). I have been searching for someone to talk with online about this. Not only is it the strangest most surreal thing I have ever encountered in my life, but I have to deal with it all through the internet. This is way to sci-fi. If it weren't for real it would be very intriguing. I would like to talk with other people who are dealing with this and managing.
Please delineate to me in what ways my words are defensive.
I feel your complaints are baseless. You complain that there was no DNA test of your sample, not fungus inspection of your sample. When we spoke or when you sent the sample, you were informed that your sample would be inspected for insects-- not fungus, not DNA, not a partridge in a pear tree (though I imagine if a bird WAS in your sample, you would know ). Please explain to me the reasons for your complaint, when you knew what you were sending would be inspected for, and I can address them.
I'm taking my bachelor's of science with focus in psychology to continue studies in psychology. That's my personal preference of career aspirations, which I really feel is neither here nor there. Would you please explain to me why my graduate work is significant to my previous job?
No, I did not look at fungus or bacteria or algae. That wasn't my job. I got paid for a specific job, and that is what I did, in the interest of keeping it. But it seems to me you think you have this all figured out. If your condition is a fungus/bacteria/alga caused from a phorid fly, then it should be quite simple to have a researcher in one of those areas confirm that for you, and you should be better in no time. What steps have you taken to pursue this?
Sincerely, Sarah Bione-Dunn
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Thank you for the links. HGE has two meanings, I guess it is whatever one we want to look at.
HGE: Human Granulocytic Ehrlichiae which has Wolbachia pipienntis at the center, renaming what already is..........or has been modified.
Gerberding is running the change at CDC, not Rutz.
HGE another definition:
Human Genetic Engineering:
"The Threat of Human Genetic Engineering
The main debate around human genetics currently centres on the ethics of genetic testing, and possibilities for genetic discrimination and selective eugenics. But while ethicists and the media constantly re-hash these issues, a small group of scientists and publicists are working towards an even more frightening prospect: the intentional genetic engineering of human beings. Just as Ian Wilmut presented us with the first clone of an adult mammal, Dolly, as a fait accompli, so these scientists aim to set in place the tools of a new techno-eugenics, before the public has ever had a chance to decide whether this is the direction we want to go in. The publicists, meanwhile are trying to convince us that these developments are inevitable. The Campaign Against Human Genetic Engineering, has been set up in response to this threat......." ......more on this here......
I know, off topic, but, the Wolbachia has been engineered into the insects who present the results on our skin. So what is the difference?
Nature has already been altered.
I think both work hand in hand, and in fact can actually cover for a multitude of infections all related to Wolbachia.
Onchocerca Volvulus and other filarial caused by Wolbachia symbiont with the worm. This makes more sense here, note includes the Ricketsettia in there.
When I first got this, this is the first thing I studied, in the last 10 years, more Wolbachia has been introduced into more insects.
Now, also Wolbachia was found in the fire ants. Even the Phorid cannot kill the fire ant, alone, and that was modified. IGE - Insect gene engineering has already been done.
Connections are coming.......but now we have to deal with how the Wolbachia Bacteria iself has been used as altering (horizontal or lateral transfer)
Natural alone, Oncho. Schisto, Brug, all of these have Wolbachia, and with more altered insects there will be more worm diseases.
I will try to find the original description of this Helen Keller disease which is an old disease, now, add to that Wolbachia in the insects, you have and OLD and a NEW disease.
Oncho when it dies on our skin it creates what most likely is the Callose, made of calcium, it is the dying end of the worm coming out, the rest is inside and is still alive. Wolbachia keeps it alive.
The worm itself is the callose? right? or close to it!
The filaria is the juvenile worms. The wavy hair-like strands, threads.
Here is description and I have put this out many times as has Orion on LB.
But, the persistence of LONDON has unfolded much of this, and she described it above, one bacteria, Wolbachia, Many bugs, the filarial described by many, filarial -hairlike, the worm itself - a nematode - many altered types, many natural Oncho, Schisto-fluke, the callus, it is all here, natural or modified. Other bacterias in variations, and microbes fermenting.
Please read below: includes all the Lyme stuff in link Randy provided, the HGE is another name for this BECAUSE, the CORE is THE WOLBACHIA.
could still be bioweapon too, though, could be any alteration which is a bio destructive force anyway.
The CDC will only give it another name, so watch what they do, unless they come clean. We may have to find an alternate Disease Healing Center.
http://www.rochester.edu/College/BIO/la ... Micro.html
The thing of which you speak could be the Human Genetic Part or the Natural world all controlled by the Reactome Tesla, Scaler, magnetic vortex, and
humans as antennas, from genetically altered antennas from what else.......Insects.....controlled by electrical impulses.
and who says the electrical probe receptor wasn't put in the modified worm?
Thank you Randy, Nadas, London, Systemic, Barz,
Befour, and many others.
It is the walking through many of these tedius links, that is unfolding the story, tearing the house of cards down, brick by brick, the Last Supper has new meaning.
If we can keep the bacteria down in us, we can eventually lesson the worms ability to survive.
Helen Keller, our angel.
This is all over Egypt now, the Oncho, Yemen where Cole was. Is in Middle East, is coming to a home near you, or a horse, or a deer, or a cow, or a CHICKEN.
the reference to horse disease ------ Horses get Oncho, have for years........
So, I guess double meanings can work for all of this..........
Wolbachia was engineered into many insects including ticks, as bioweapon in Lymes? or Lymes II.
Human Genetic Engineering through BACTERIA.....
You had the KEY Randy, and London you had the body of work. I only read it. Nadas, you got the connection by way of Zap. You all are so cool, as is Barz, it is for you and your children we read and analyze and think...........Befour, you got us some caps for thinking.......Mrcvis.....you have been there to remind us of many things.....CYLLA where might you be? Systemic....always short and sweet.
Oh......here is an excellent article,, been watching the animals, first indication, along with insects and birds, that trouble was brewing........
"The pathogenesis of filarial disease is characterised by both acute and chronic inflammation. Filarial nematodes harbour intracellular bacteria belonging to the genus Wolbachia. These bacteria play an important role in the biology of the parasite and appears to have an essential role in the embryogenesis of these nematodes (antibiotic treatment inhibits production of microfilariae). Wolbachia are released into the blood of the host following the death of filarial worms, microfilarial turnover and pharmacological treatment. Massive release of Wolbachia into the blood can determine severe systemic inflammatory reactions. Indeed, the release of bacteria has been shown to be associated with production of pro-inflammatory cytokine, neutrophil recruitment and an increase in specific immunoglobulins. We have identified a Wolbachia molecule (the Wolbachia surface protein, WSP) that is able to: 1) evoke cellular immune responses in onchocerciosis patients including a release of TNF-alpha, interleukin (IL)-12, IL-8, and interferon (IFN)-gamma; 2) stimulate canine neutrophil chemokinesis and IL-8 production. We have also observed that animals and humans infected with filarial nematodes mount a specific humoral response to WSP and that the predominance of IgG2 antibodies is indicative of a Th1-type, cell mediated response. Therefore the role of Wolbachia in the host response to filarial infection may be due to the inflammatory/immunomodulatory activity of Wolbachia associated proteins.
Filariasis is still a major health problem in humans and animals. More than 140 million people are infected with the filarial nematodes Brugia malayi, Onchocerca volvulus and Wuchereria bancrofti which are responsible for the majority of human cases of filarial disease (Ottesen 1992, 1995). The heartworm disease of dogs and cats is caused by another filarial nematode, Dirofilaria immitis (Boreham and Atwell, 1988). The pathogenesis of filarial disease is characterised by acute and chronic inflammation. One of the main goals of experimental studies on Filariasis has been the identification of filarial molecules responsible of immunological and pathological responses (e.g., Rao et al., 1999).
Wolbachia, a gram negative bacterial endosymbiont belonging to the Rickettiales, has been described in the body of various species of filarial nematodes (Sironi et al. 1995; Bandi et al., 1998, Casiraghi et al., 2001). These bacteria are present in the lateral chords of both males and females, in the reproductive apparatus of females and also in the larvae present in the vector (Bandi et al., 2001). Wolbachia has also been shown to be transovarially transmitted from female worms to the offspring. In addition, a 100% prevalence of infection in the filarial species positive for Wolbachia is suggestive of an obligatory symbiosis between bacteria and its host (Bandi et al., 2001). Furthermore, drugs like tetracycline, known to be effective against Rickettsia-like bacteria, have been shown to cause detrimental effects on filarial nematodes which harbour Wolbachia, and no effects on filarial nematodes which do not harbour these bacteria (Bandi et al., 1999, Hoerauf et al., 1999; Langworthy et al., 2000). In fact, tetracycline treatments reduce the population of Wolbachia in filarial worms and interferes with the L4-L5 moult of the parasite (Casiraghi et al., 2002). Furthermore, antibiotic treatments of human affected by O. volvulus have been shown an inhibition of the production of microfilariae (Hoerauf 2000, 2001). The effective reduction of Wolbachia in the body of filarial nematodes after antibiotic treatment has been monitored using both Real time PCR (Casiraghi et al., 2002) and immunohistochemical/immunogold detection (Kramer et al., 2003). However, since a chemically modified tetracycline which does not have anti-microbial activity, has been shown to block the filarial moulting, the casual effect of tetracycline treatment, Wolbachia clearance and filarial attrition is still to be evaluated (Rajan, 2004).
Read entire article and note links on side.
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedi ... &O=Generic
there is much more......but the jist is there.......
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