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Postby maryroger » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:13 pm

Cilla,
Is this the site
http://www.morgellons.eu/
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Postby London » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:45 pm

so here is a list thru out the US of Molecular Testing Facilities......

http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/09FAM/0942041X3.PDF


SKYTOLL, EVER HEAR OF MY FAVORITE NEW WORD?????

MOLECULAR PARASITES!!!!!!!!


That site_ thanks sweet Mary. I had a look; it was not for me. Same old,
same old.....but thanks anyway.
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:39 pm

I see the Eu site is calling these fibers, fibrils and filaments, getting closer to the actin in muscles aren't we?

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Postby London » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:16 am

Cilla,

Here, you may want to help Cliff out- Tell him I said "Hello" too.

The message is about the ameobas forming. I had red ones form ontop of my beige carpet.

They (the ameobas ) form what is called a motile slug. Tell him that and it involves the Dicty's.

Here's an excerpt from this scientist lady called Linn M.:

An example of endosymbiosis can be seen in Margulis’s Green Animals video as the sea slugs pierce algae and keep the algae’s chloroplast, or energy-making cells, alive in their translucent gut. There the plastids photosynthesize and supply the slugs’ nutriment, while the slugs in turn provide an ideal environment for the plastids. Examining the slug’s genome reveals a gene for a protein useless to animals. Somehow the gene, otherwise found only in algae, has been passed from the algal to the slug’s cells.

On a larger scale, endosymbiosis suggests that both the mitochondria of animal cells and the chloroplasts of plant cells, both of which have independent genomes totally unlike the genomes of their host cells, were originally free-living bacteria engulfed by other cells but not digested. The bacteria stayed on, giving their hosts the chemical energy they needed to be healthier and more vigorous, and in turn received what they required from the host (and, in the case of chloroplasts, the sun).

_________________________________________thanks Cilla

Sky,

did you see that here? This is the basis for a lot of this molecular ,mess we're dealing with. also, have you found out any more info on HIV?
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Postby London » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:23 am

Now here is something else to consider.....the possibility of the red-bellied toad being involved in the clone.

It is something called iridoviruses......here you go.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
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Postby Linn » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:03 am

London wrote:Dear Linn,

Why was there no hyperlink to your Mayo Clinic article? Could you possibly provide that for us sick as hell folK?

So, wonder whay happened to the Texan?

PS:Lyme disease has become a serious public health threat in the U.S. The disease has now spread to 46 states.


How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

— Adolf Hitler



http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/in ... =1485&UID=

note the poor "Texan" was negative for parasites just as many morgs are :? Cause they still have prehistoric tests! they need to come up to the 21st century.
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Postby London » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:09 am

Little Lynne-

Thank you bunches. Hey, I saw that dirofilarial worm in my cheek the other night. I also heard it was the worm of racoons. I just thought it was from the dog heartworm.

Anyway, thanks for the hyperlink. Thanks a lot.

As far as testing.....I'm going to get molecular tested. PCR.....

and....that new space typing test. Think my insurance will pay?

Latergator~

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Postby London » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:58 am

Linn,

RE: Your hyperlink-which was great by the way; that is just what I told Carrie when about a month ago whe posted that video of someone tweezing one from her cheek! I said that I had just read about it and it more than likely was dipteria (sp?). I just knew it and that confirmed it for me.

I'm wondering why the article started out taking about this worm>fly maggot, then gave the texan analogy with no worms. guess, like you said, b/c of the wrong type of testing.
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Postby Cilla » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:58 am

Hi All,

I do not know exactly who will be involved in the new site, and I am in no position to help Cliff out, (I'm not a scientist!), and neither am I in communication with him, so I cannot pass on any messages, London.

I do admire him for the intelligent stance he has taken, and for the clarity of his writing on Morgellons/Fiber Disease, (it is my belief that it is necessary to read everything that he has written if one wishes to understand this condition), but I have never communicated with him, as I don't know enough, and there's nothing wrong with me. I could send him fan mail, I suppose!

I think that he and Geema are a formidable team, and I do hope that they continue to publish their highly intelligent theses about this condition on many web sites and via different avenues, including the media.

I have been reading a lot more about Ginger Savely, and I think this is another wonderful professional in the fight against this horrible condition. She really knows her stuff with regards to treating this, and providing for a patient's comfort and safety.

I would read everything that is written about the regimen of treatment that may be prescribed for this condition, and think about the rationale underpinning the possible use of a given choice of drug.

Dr Schwartz and Tam tam have said a lot that is highly relevant in this.

All you can do is to try and see registered health care professionals who can help you, perhaps with systemic drugs, perhaps with topical drugs, or maybe with a balanced use of both.

The new site is asking for feed back, I believe, and more information on the symptoms that people may have experienced. If any of you want to send them information, I think there is an on-line facility for this.

I think Mary at the MRF does a wonderful job, but have no idea who her friends might be.

What I do think is that Tam tam is a very dear friend to us!
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Postby tamtam » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:58 pm

Pathogens are population control regulators.

Statician turn the effects into a morbidity and mortality rate.

To mention provenance is not profitable.

One door down the alley creates a serious problem and the other door is supposed to solve it.

All together R&D flowers as never before!

People enough!
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Postby tamtam » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:57 pm

A novel surface protein capable of enabling enterococci to colonize a new area of the gastrointestinal tract, an area perhaps less endowed with immune clearance mechanisms, may explain the ability of these outbreak strains to efficiently colonize and cause disease
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Postby Skytroll » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:35 pm

Tam Tam,

Would that be the pylori connection? That would put the flagella, the mover in there, right?

Or the bottom of the bowel. The bowels of our souls? Where it remains stagnant until we see the Almighty, a means of punishment by the creator-man who is very slick, slippery and yet sustaining.

Because we cover for this evil, don't we?

Boldness, brightness and belief will reach down and a flower will grow, but, it will be Natural, it will be real, it will give us hope.

And that is all we need.

A bit of flowery speech, but, we are talking flowers here, aren't we?

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