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Postby RANDY » Mon May 22, 2006 3:46 am

Cilla wrote:Hi All,

You don't think the authorities responsible for biosafety within these high containment level laboratories would act, if you were to raise a formal query about a putative link between your apparent condition, and what a person claiming to be a scientist has been repeatedly asserting?

They would have to respond.

Biosafety within high containment laboratories is taken extremely seriously, both in the US and the UK, and elsewhere.

Tam tam has introduced other drugs, supplementary to the Schwartz protocol, viz. amphotericin, which should be prescribed in cases where the eye infection/infestation is so bad that the vitreous is involved. Dr Schwartz did not argue with him about that suggestion, when they had a discussion on this very site. So, he would certainly seem to have specialist knowledge about the drugs that would be needed because of the protozoal element.

Because of this specialist knowledge, and other things he has said, he could very well be what he says he is.

If you have a condition that is not being satisfactorily treated, partly because it is not showing up on standard laboratory tests, you would have nothing to lose by alerting the authorities to what has been repeatedly claimed.

You would have everything to gain.


First of all they would deny it if you got an answer at all and if you did it legally then , unless you are offering funding..we are spending our last dimes on medicine. Are you offering to fund a legal prosecution? Also anything Schwartz said on this forum was delivered by Grace through me, So you have to go back and quote how he did not go against Tam. Schwartsz does not like computers so Grace handles that for him and she knows of this forum through me. Tam has never called Schwartz although Schwartz has asked him time and time again. He ahs never contacted Schwartz as far as I know. If you know different I will call Schwartz tomorrow and ask him.

If you know a lawyer int eh USA Cilla that will work for free give me his name and number TODAY! I will call hima nd have my guys talk to him but he must work for free and go against BIG business with NO information except info from a guy that has not real name, address, telephone number and has a video most say is bogus and will not call anyone of science to explain his video.

So,,,why would you ask us to look crazy?

If you knwo an international attorney willing to take this case against BIG INDUSTRY and GOVERNMENT using Tams video..send them over. Here is my number 434-974-7128.

After the NEWS I got from my guys I would never ask anyone FOR REAl to bring a legal case against anyone using his video.

"Excuse me Mr Lawyer I have this unknown person who created a video that all my scientific friends say is totally bogus and he will not reveal who he is but based upon this video please take my case against the US government and big business. Ya see we are going to accuse them of doing something to us that can not be explained in this video by a person who does not really exist except as the name Tam and by the way..we have no idea what he does for a living, where he lives or if he even is a scientist. So would ya Mr Lawyer..take my case?"

HELLO NUT HOUSE!


NO Thanks Cil,

And BTW where is it that you live..what country.... and what do you do for a living? That is not too sensative a question is it? What COUNTRY do you live in and what do you do for a living? I have asked you this through a PM about 5 times and via this forum too. No response. I am not asking you real name or address or town or age. I have also asked you why you are even interested in this forum.

AND WHO IS THE GUY IN THE VIDEO? Does anyone know??????????

This is such a joke!

Not be snotty but I prefer to talk to someone who answers my simple questions. Really I do.


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Postby RANDY » Mon May 22, 2006 3:48 am

PS a PDR can give you tons of info..just look up eye and you get a list of prescribed drugs. You do not have ot be a scientist. I know you mean well but I fear you are a bit nieve. That is all. I am sure you mean well.
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Postby befour » Mon May 22, 2006 5:03 am

RANDY,

Can you please explain why you post on this thread? You apparently do not need any help or advice, because you already know EVERYTHING! You seem to be an authority on every subject, or at least one of "your guys" is (?)

Since you already have your own web-site and all of these experts at your disposal, what is your purpose here.......other than to disagree with everyone that has USEFUL information for all of us that really need it!!

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Postby ilisawilson » Mon May 22, 2006 5:42 am

I'm Travis mother. Thanks for your kind words about Travis. If there are any other personal thoughts you would like to share with me about him, could you please email them to me at ilisawilson@aol.com?

Here is Travis' more lengthy obit in his hometown of Shelton, WA, where he was buried. We moved to Austin, TX three years ago, when my company transferred me here and this is where he passed away. We believe he's had Lyme all his life, but he contracted Morgellons while living here. He thinks a trip to Mexico is how he got it.

An autopsy determined that Travis died from a toxic reaction to the meds he was on. This is really sad. At first, I thought he had taken his own life due to the enormous amount of pain and agony he was in, with Morgellons "attack"s coming most days. But, knowing that he wanted to go on makes this even harder on me. He had complained of his liver hurting for a month, but he wouldn't go have his monthly blood test as he was afraid they would take him off his antibiotics, which were his only relief from the attacks. And recently, I learned that his heart and his stomach had also been bothering him. I think his body had had enough meds and it just shut down. He is at peace now and that is the only thing keeping me going.

Travis Allen Wilson, born 12/29/1982, died Sunday, April 23, 2006 at the age of 23 from complications of Lyme disease and Morgellons disease. Travis was born in Olympia, WA and lived most of his life in Shelton, WA. He lived for a time in Tenino, WA and for the past three years resided in Leander, Texas near Austin.

He attended Pioneer school, Tenino Middle School, Tenino High School, and Shelton High School. Travis was a very gifted student, winning a school spelling bee, spending his entire 8th grade year in an advanced placement program for highly capable students, and participating in the running start program at South Puget Sound Community College his junior and senior years of high school.

Travis played basketball and softball in grade school, golfed, and bowled for many years on leagues. He loved playing video games both on the computer and on video game systems. He worked at a video game store when he was 14 years old and was proud to be a beta tester for Nintendo at their Headquarters in Redmond, WA for several years.

Travis attended Austin Community College and was a web site designer for a time. He and a friend had just generated financial backing to start a new business, going into customer’s homes and fixing their computers. Travis had developed the business plan for this endeavor. He had a special talent for fixing computers. He had been building and repairing them for over a decade. They were his passion.

Travis became a certified pharmacy technician in 2003. He used this knowledge to help himself and to advise others on both Lyme disease and Morgellons disease. He was very active in monitoring Lyme and Morgellons computer bulletin boards and eager to share information that he had learned and gained from his own experience.

He was an avid reader and writer. He wrote many poems and had four chapters written in a novella that he was very dedicated to. Unfortunately, he passed away before it could be completed.

He loved to sing and play the guitar and had hoped to play in a band one day. Nirvana and the Beattles were his favorite bands. He also liked to paint abstract pictures.

Travis was very sick for much of his life, but fought to live on, trying both traditional and alternative therapies. He valued his family and friendships immensely. They meant the world to him. He told his mother many times that he would much rather have cancer, than this horrifying, nightmarish Morgellons disease. He fought for as long as he could. He was a brave soul. He will be greatly missed.

He is survived by this mother, Lisa Wilson of the family home in Leander, father, Mark Wilson of Shelton, WA, sister, Trisha Wilson, of Herndon, VA, great-grandparents, John and Mary Thompson of Rainier, Oregon and St. Petersburg, Florida and numerous aunts, uncles, cousins and friends.

Memorial Donations may be made to the Morgellons Research Foundation at P.O. Box 16576, Surfside Beach, South Carolina 29587. This is a non-profit organization. More information on Morgellons can be found at http://www.Morgellons.com.

Viewing is at McComb Funeral Home at 703 West Railroad Avenue on Friday, April 28 from noon until 5:00 PM. Funeral Service is at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) at 916 North12th Street on Saturday, April 29 at 10:00 AM. Burial will immediately follow at Miller Cemetery in Agate, outside Shelton, WA. A gathering will follow burial at the home of Mimi Cook, Travis’ aunt, the former home of Harry Cook, 5172 E. Agate Road, Shelton.
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Postby London » Mon May 22, 2006 6:50 am

Ms. Wilson,

Hi, I am so very, very sorry for your loss. I know you miss him dearly.

We all do too. Travis and I wrote each other about 3 times at the most.

This was on Lymebusters and it was prob., in mid-Dec. But we were just discussing the basics/ symptoms, etc., and talking a lil about conspiracy theories......

Ms. Wilson,

I wanted to ask you why did Travis think he became infected in Mexico?

Was it immediately following his trip down there? What were those symptoms? Did he get in the ocean? Did he also get sick (nauseas) from the food/ water while he was there?

I ask these things b/c I lived down there for 3 summers. I was on the Mayan Riveria area and in the ocean daily.

I too might have became infected from Mexico.....After I arrived back in the States well, for about 4 months straight, I would get this tummy ache

that burned a lot rught behind my belly button and at times would feel like
someone had hit me in the stomach. This would happen I'd say about 3-4 days out of the week.

Then after the 4-5 months had passed since I had returned from Mexico,
I began to get:

-My first eye infection that came and went with in 24 hours> only affecting one eye.

- My hair became "burnt looking" in places (size : about as big as your fist)

- My breast began to get these huge lumps in them with weird shapes to them. (Kind of like a capital L shape) The doctors are still "sumped to this day what it was" The did massive mammography plus 3 or maybe 4 sonaograms/ ultrasounds on the lumps all in one day. Still> no answers.

But........on that last trip to Mexico it was just that : a weeklong trip to just get away and go diving, etc., Well, exactly 10 days before I left for that trip, I had been severely bitten by fleas. (23 bites) from my ankles up to my waist / tummy and back......

Then, while I was down there this week, I experienced something that I will never forget......(Prefecae this with I did have a sunburn on my back
but nothing that I have not had before)......Well, I was walking down

the beach when I suddenly felt this excruciating stings start to go thru my back. It felt like they were from the outside going in......The best description I can use is that this felt like someone was throwing DARTS

into my back. It felt horrible, I begfan to yelp with pain. It was intermittent......I might not feel anything for 3 minutes or so then the Pain from Hell would start all over again. This lasted a good 4-6 hours.

I went to the Hotel Doctor it was so b ad.......

Well, I thought it must have been sea lice or something that had bitten me. (But sea Lice is not indigenus to that area), nor did I have any visible stings/ bite marks on me. Again, Doctor could not tell that anything was wrong.........

I soaked in an ice-cold tub with vinegar to relieve pain> did not work.....

This went on and on until I finally fell asleep. I was told that I even still jumped from the pain during my sleep.

The next day, it was like nothing had ever happened.....No marks on body, and no more stinging from those invisible darts- :)

So, this is why I was wondering if you felt like sharing Travis' account of his trip to Mexico.........

(Maybe I was hit by chemtrails> something. It sure was not any bite from the ocean......

Thank you for sharing what you have already Ms. Wilson. It is appreciated.


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Postby London » Mon May 22, 2006 7:04 am

Has anyone heard from Sabrina? If she sees this hopefully she will write or PM one of us to let us know she is okay......

OKAY???????? hint, hint
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Postby Cilla » Mon May 22, 2006 11:21 am

Dear Lisa,

I was very saddened to hear of the awful and tragic death of your young son, Travis.

I recognised some of his writing, when examples of this were being put together on this site for your family, and realised that I had indeed read part of his work before.

He was obviously a very talented and deeply thoughtful young man, and his absence will be felt by all who were touched by his thoughts in this way.

Once again, I extend my heartfelt sympathy to you, his mother, at having to bear such an awful and heartbreaking loss.
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Postby Cilla » Mon May 22, 2006 11:58 am

Dear Everyone,

Please do note that I have not advised you to bring a case in legal action against anyone, and certainly not against the American government, when I suggest you raise a query with the NIH.

I quite clearly stated that you would not be accusing anyone of anything, but that you would be alerting the body of professionals responsible for maintaining the biosafety of high containment level laboratories that there had allegedly been a 'release' of something harmful in the US.

Since this allegation has been made repeatedly by a person who states that he is a scientist, and since a link has been made by this scientist, between this harmful release, and the condition that many of you apparently suffer from, you would then be doing the correct thing by asking the responsible departmental officials to look into it.

If you sent a competent letter, in which you outlined the salient facts, which would be comprised of the scientist's assertions, and the apparently related fact of your illness, and you concluded this by making a formal request that they investigate this, they would be bound to respond.

It would be important to state that the scientist has not stated that the harmful release was definitely from a laboratory in the US, or from any specific location, but that he has advised that you obtain the source code information.

Any subsequent investigation would then be the province of these professionals, as this is their job.

They would be bound to reply to your letter, and to investigate if they felt there was just cause for concern.

At the end of the day, the investigation might conclude that your apparent condition could not be caused by a laboratory mishap of this nature.

As I have said before, no man is infallible, and Tam tam could therefore be, although sincere, mistaken.

On the other hand, the investigation might conclude something a whole lot different.

Either way, you are not going to know unless you give it a try.
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Postby Skytroll » Mon May 22, 2006 12:19 pm

London,

from that link:
"Through comparative
sequencing among closely related species,
considerable diversity of mutational events
has been inferred"......

has been inferred?
Inference:
inference

n : the reasoning involved in drawing a conclusion or making a logical judgment on the basis of circumstantial evidence and prior conclusions rather than on the basis of direct observation [syn: illation]


Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

Main Entry: in·fer·ence
Pronunciation: 'in-f&-r&ns
Function: noun
1 : the act or process of inferring; specifically : the act of passing from one proposition, statement, or judgment considered as true to another whose truth is believed to follow logically from that of the former
2 : something inferred; especially : a proposition arrived at by inference —see also permissive presumption at PRESUMPTION
3 : the premises and conclusions of a process of inferring


Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

in·fer·ence ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nfr-ns)
n.

The act or process of deriving logical conclusions from premises known or assumed to be true.
The act of reasoning from factual knowledge or evidence.

Something inferred.
Usage Problem. A hint or suggestion: The editorial contained an inference of foul play in the awarding of the contract. See Usage Note at infer.


Well then.......

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Postby Skytroll » Mon May 22, 2006 1:12 pm

More investigation into connector labs:


L-GEL:

"However, these materials, which are mainly strong chemicals, were developed by the military for battlefield use, and they pose environmental and health risks when used in civilian settings. At the minimum, they can damage everyday materials such as furniture and office equipment."......

Source:http://www-cms.llnl.gov/s-t/l-gel.html

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Postby foreign devil » Mon May 22, 2006 3:35 pm

Mrs. Wilson: I am so sorry for your loss and for everyone's loss. I only recently learned of this disease while researching something else and in finding out about it I learned of what was thought to be Travis' suicide because of despair. But instead he had soldiered on and G*d had seen fit to take him from the struggle. In the short time I'd been monitoring the forum I learned a great deal about the courage of Morgellan's sufferers. Even so, Travis was exceptional and I know he'll be sorely missed by his loved ones and the community. G*d Bless you all. I pray a cure will come or even some hints that will point to a cure soon. You had the privilege of an exceptional young man as your son, Mrs. Wilson, and he's been a beacon of perseverance and determination for others. Travis, Rest in Peace!
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Postby RANDY » Mon May 22, 2006 5:06 pm

http://www.adrants.com/2006/05/fake-dis ... e-camp.php

What have I been telling you all along...Here si Tam and Sky!!!!

Am I wrong..please tell me I am wrong!
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