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Vitamin b12 and D deficiency, remedies?

Postby HHIX » Thu May 13, 2010 2:29 am

Hello, I am posting this topic on behalf of someone to hopefully find some insight into how to possibly remedy vitamin B12 and vitamin D deficiency, I am simply looking for anything obscure or new that might not be so easy to find through research, or any possible causes that are hard to diagnose. At the start this person had stomach problems such as cramping and bloated feelings, they felt sluggish and slept more often than normal, and had some skin problems. After consulting a doctor after some time blood tests showed they had very low vitamin D levels and low vitamin b12 levels. So far all their physician has done is supplement them with both vitamin D and b12 to increase their levels, but since then they only seem to hover around the same levels. The doctor has specifically said it seems they have trouble absorbing the b12. After an Endoscopy the doctor discovered an H Pylori infection in their stomach, they have gone through several rounds of antibiotics but it has been a tough infection. Their symptoms have been the most alleviated after they get treated with their antibiotics. This has been going on for over a years time and the doctor has never said plainly that their problem absorbing these vitamins is because of their infection or anything else. They want to get a 2nd opinion and would like to go in and be able to ask questions using whatever knowledge they can dig up. Also any abstract or unconventional methods that could help they are certainly willing to look in to. I am not an expert in this field or any other biological fields for that matter, but if anyone has any useful materials or knowledge they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and responses!
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Postby kolean » Thu May 13, 2010 3:21 pm

Food allergies.
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Re: Vitamin b12 and D deficiency, remedies?

Postby HHIX » Thu May 13, 2010 4:54 pm

My mistake for not mentioning they were tested for allergies beforehand, they already stay away from certain food directed by their physician, rather than diagnostics I'm more interested in finding out anything that might help their vitamin deficiency. Thank you.
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Postby kolean » Thu May 13, 2010 9:25 pm

It is still going to be food allergies. Unless you are a diligent and intelligent label reader, you will still be eating what you are not suppose to eat (especially if they eat processed foods). And allergy tests are not all that conclusive if it was a skin test (blood test is alittle more reliable).

B-12 can be handled with sublingual supplements. I also make sure my intestinal flora is highly active and supported (antibiotics will kill everything, and then getting the regular flora re-established without the yeasts and parasites taking over is hard to do) which also provides b-12 as a by-product.

Vitamin D of course can be made from the sun's UV rays hitting exposed skin. And if you are in the North where sunshine is scarce during the winter months, a good lamp is a necessity (or a vacation to a sunny destination). Also, vitamin D can be stored in the liver, and if you get your quota of sunshine during the summer months, it should be enough to get you thru the longest of winters.
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Re: Vitamin b12 and D deficiency, remedies?

Postby lrcjvl » Fri May 14, 2010 3:31 am

I have both B12 and vitamin D deficiencies and iron/ferritin deficiencies as well. Also tested and found lower than normal bone density. Doctors should rule out a malabsorption problem. Look at information about celiac disease which is often underdiagnosed. Good Luck.
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Postby kolean » Fri May 14, 2010 9:18 pm

Celiac disease is a food allergy disease associated with gluten, but if gluten can kill the microvilli in the intestine, then anything you are allergic to will do the same. And depending on how bad the microvilli are in the intestines, just not eating the allergic food substance will not be enough (though it will make the acute symptoms subside). You are going to have to start eating foods that will help heal the microvilli and calm the immune system.
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Re: Vitamin b12 and D deficiency, remedies?

Postby HHIX » Sat May 15, 2010 4:47 am

Thank you for the responses, they are doing all they can as far as supplements and getting in the sun for Vitamin D. Supposedly a malabsorption problem has not in fact been ruled out, what kind of tests should be done to normally find out if it is a problem specifically with absorption? So far from what I understand only blood tests have been done, as well as that initial Endoscopy.
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Re: Vitamin b12 and D deficiency, remedies?

Postby skeptic » Thu May 20, 2010 7:55 am

This person is not vegan?

The best natural source for vitamin B12 is red meat, especially liver. That is also the form in which it is most easily absorbed. My wife and I are great meat eaters and our vitamin b12 levels are almost too high. Red meat is also the best and most easily absorbed source of iron.

Vitamin D is, as stated, produced with exposure of the skin to sunlight. How much sunlight is needed depends on the darkness of the skin. If we are talking of a paleface like me, 30 minutes of mild exposure per day is enough. If it is a person of African descent, a lot more may be needed.
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